April 2021 Recruiting Thread

[HuskylnSC]

I think the issue is her potential, not her history. If she was not a hard worker I'd discount potential but she is so I give her (and others) the benefit of the doubt. There have been very few 4 year stars at UConn. UConn has so many players with so much potential who seem to be dedicated to improving their games. I'll wager that at least a few will succeed. It's going to be interesting finding out who they are.

I would like to believe you are right. But it appears she is being recruited over and may not get the chance to shine in practice. Amari, and Caroline will possibly be taking minutes after January. I didn’t see a sophomore jump in understanding the offense. Hopefully her junior year will be different. I think all of us who have been disappointed in her play want nothing more than for her to have a monster season. Hoping I’m wrong

 

[HuskylnSC]

I dont remember AG ever getting a start. what games were these? You are thinking of AE not AG. So NM was the preferred choice over AE. I am a huge NM fan but thought the head coach gave up a little too soon on AE in the starting lineup. She had a 4 minute audition and then back to the bench.

Yes there are different variables to take into account. For instance, in the Baylor game, we lost a few points on the lead when AG was in but yet we played a very small line-up for long stretches since Liv was on the bench. Hard to expect us to play so long with a small line-up and then blame that on AG. You have to also think of that too. AG often plays when Liv gets into foul trouble, which in general, especially against a big team, will make things more difficult, but yet we still kept it close. I actually thought AG helped us tremendously in that game. Then there is CW who gave up 15 points in the first half by herself, including a throw away pass a the end of the half leading to another 2 easy points for Baylor. Alongside AG's offense, which I know isn't proficient, she creates opportunities for teammates with her defense and also slows down the opposing team as well. She did a pretty nice job on the kid from Ark, holding her to 7 points when she was guarding her.

Good job with the ‘analysis’. You need to recheck some bad scores

 

[hoophuskee]

I think the issue is her potential, not her history. If she was not a hard worker I'd discount potential but she is so I give her (and others) the benefit of the doubt. There have been very few 4 year stars at UConn. UConn has so many players with so much potential who seem to be dedicated to improving their games. I'll wager that at least a few will succeed. It's going to be interesting finding out who they are.

The issue with her though is she is not such an amazing offensive rebounder vs the tougher teams. Looking at the 4 games which UCONN was threatened or lost (excluding AZ because she didn't play much), she got 2 OREB's vs Tennessee, 1 vs Arkansas, 2 vs South Carolina, and 1 vs Baylor. That's not much of an impact.

One poster on here spoke of "Dennis Rodman." Yes of course- if she was "Dennis Rodman" in terms of production vs the elite teams then that's one major asset UCONN has. But she isn't.

As a result, the expectation of how productive she'll be vs the elite teams getting OREB's vs how the opposing team will pack the paint when she is in- in which they are cutting off passing and driving lanes - may very well mean she could very well get surpassed.

And I think her shooting will have to come down to more than just hard work. Shooters need mental/ a confident mindset too. Sometimes players can't develop that well enough. I'm sure many players that never were very good shooters did try to work hard at it but they couldn't achieve that type of shooting success.

 

[Mdoggie]

Is it at all possible to talk about potential recruits on the recruiting thread? Or is that asking too much?

 

[JordyG]

My sincere hope is Aubrey learns to utilize a head fake, when appropriate, before shooting in the paint.

My sincere hope is that Aubrey utilizes a consistent shot from anywhere next year.

 

[jazz]

Good job with the ‘analysis’. You need to recheck some bad scores

I don't need to recheck anything.

 

[jazz]

Good lord! Aubrey actually started 5 consecutive games for UCONN this season beginning with Butler and ending with DePaul. Those 5 starts also included TN and Arkansas. How could your thorough analysis have missed this? Peep this, Aubrey is actually a slightly better player as as starter than she is coming off the bench. Again I'm not sure how your analysis could have possibly missed that. As several people have pointed out to you her overall impact on the offensive end is why Aubrey's play does not justify more minutes. You actual have to watch the game to notice this because the box score can be very deceiving. Did you watch the clip of Aubrey whiffing on several screens that I previously pointed out or do I need to repost it.

Damn i forgot this. by bad. but it has nothing to do with my analysis. If you read more closely, which obviously you didnt, my analysis wasnt about her as a starter vs AG coming off the bench. It was just the minutes she played compared to the scoring output the team had and the point discrepancy . So Good Lord back to you Coco - why don't you try reading more carefully before responding or are you so anxious to say something inflammatory behind the protection of your keyboard that you just can't help yourself. If you are going to challenge me, then try to take note of the actual original post not some small point that you 'cherry picked' so that you can become the 'keyboard warrior' you are always so anxious to be.

She didn't whiff on several screens. It was two and we had a discussion about this before. Within the same video clip you gave me, AE whiffed completely on a screen but again you chose to ignore this. I also don't think PB runs her man off the screens very well either - I believe GA mentioned this as well but it doesn't matter to me if he has or hasn't. It takes two to screen. Nice try at cherry picking and blowing something that had nothing to do with the original post out of proportion. Also, you know that I watched the clips you sent to me because I responded to it.

Would you like me to repost my original post back to you and explain what each word means to make it easier for you to understand?

Obviously I know the box score can be deceiving which is why I, and GA alike dont think that CW or Liv quite had the great AA season that many here think they did. To further your point, AG does a lot of things that don't show up in the box, so yes the box can be deceiving in that way as well. But of course I think you have conveniently chose to ignore that too.

 

[HuskylnSC]

I don't need to recheck anything.

Sorry that post spell checked. It should have said 'box' scores. If you don't know that Aubrey started for 5 games then your whole 'analysis' falls apart. just saying.

 

[HuskylnSC]

One poster on here spoke of "Dennis Rodman."

Good point. But the other point if Rodman did not run the plays. Did not know where to be and where the ball was supposed to move. If he clogged the middle and ruined floor spacing. He too would have had a lot of potential.

Definition - Potential: You could be able to do something, but you haven't done anything.

 

[CocoHusky]

Damn i forgot this. by bad. but it has nothing to do with my analysis. If you read more closely, which obviously you didnt, my analysis wasnt about her as a starter vs AG coming off the bench. It was just the minutes she played compared to the scoring output the team had and the point discrepancy . So Good Lord back to you Coco - why don't you try reading more carefully before responding or are you so anxious to say something inflammatory behind the protection of your keyboard that you just can't help yourself. If you are going to challenge me, then try to take note of the actual original post not some small point that you 'cherry picked' so that you can become the 'keyboard warrior' you are always so anxious to be.

She didn't whiff on several screens. It was two and we had a discussion about this before. Within the same video clip you gave me, AE whiffed completely on a screen but again you chose to ignore this. I also don't think PB runs her man off the screens very well either - I believe GA mentioned this as well but it doesn't matter to me if he has or hasn't. It takes two to screen. Nice try at cherry picking and blowing something that had nothing to do with the original post out of proportion. Also, you know that I watched the clips you sent to me because I responded to it.

Would you like me to repost my original post back to you and explain what each word means to make it easier for you to understand?

Obviously I know the box score can be deceiving which is why I, and GA alike dont think that CW or Liv quite had the great AA season that many here think they did. To further your point, AG does a lot of things that don't show up in the box, so yes the box can be deceiving in that way as well. But of course I think you have conveniently chose to ignore that too.

It is very unfortunate that your analysis "forgot" to include the games Aubrey started because her first start against Butler where she dropped 17 and 10 was perhaps her best game of the season. You also seem determined to to elevate Aubrey by pointing out the flaws of the other players-good luck with that. This thread is supposed to be about recruiting. The thread you started to big up Aubrey did not end so well so please don't put this one on the same path.

#44 Aubrey Griffin (6'1" Forward)

Never seen or heard of a lack of screening from AG....See her do it all the time. AG has a good handle and has shown it on several occasions in the half court and in the open court going coast to coast on steals. Please watch two minutes of the Marquette game (3:18- 1:20) and focus on Aubrey...

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[jazz]

Is it at all possible to talk about potential recruits on the recruiting thread? Or is that asking too much?

I am just responding to a post made my somebody else who said the offense comes to a halt (paraphrasing) when AG is in the game and statistically this does not have any truth to it.

 

[CocoHusky]

Are you and coco the same person or related or best friends?

Tell me exactly how my analysis falls apart?

I forgot she started a handful of games when I posted to you, that in NO way changes the there is NO discernible difference in scoring output by the offense when AG was in the game vs when she is not. It also in NO way changes that more often than not, when AG is in the game, we extend the lead. It also in NO way changes that when AG plays, many times, we are playing with a smaller line-up since Liv is not in the game (not always but many times) and therefore it is harder for us to score and defend the post, but somehow, someway AG and the rest of the team gets it done. That is No way changes that we do not fall any further behind when she is in the game and in fact have closed the gap or extend the lead more often than not.

You are being intellectually absent-minded, along with Coco if you think that this has anything with her starting or not. It has solely to do with when she is in the game vs when she is not, whether or not she starts is irrelevant.

Consider that to be great minds thinking alike.
Speaking of great minds which- How could you analysis not be flawed when it "forgot" about the games in which Aubrey started.

 

[DEpup]

I am just responding to a post made my somebody else who said the offense comes to a halt (paraphrasing) when AG is in the game and statistically this does not have any truth to it.

I would say the offensive flow comes to an end when either Aubrey or Mir are in the game because they aren't willing passers yet. I feel like they treat the ball like a hot potato. When they get it, they just go right to the basket whether that is the right decision or not. They often frantically get points but it typically isn't sustainable. That is why I believe commonly you see Aubrey come in and get some quick points but then it tails off once the defense recognizes that ball movement stops if Aubrey get the ball.

 

[Sluconn Husky]

Can we get a separate fighting over Aubrey thread?

 

[Sluconn Husky]

First Athena Tomlinson HS highlights:

 

[Go/huskies]

I would say the offensive flow comes to an end when either Aubrey or Mir are in the game because they aren't willing passers yet. I feel like they treat the ball like a hot potato. When they get it, they just go right to the basket whether that is the right decision or not. They often frantically get points but it typically isn't sustainable. That is why I believe commonly you see Aubrey come in and get some quick points but then it tails off once the defense recognizes that ball movement stops if Aubrey get the ball.

The few games Mir did get in, she would always come in looking to score, sometimes she would think about shooting an ill advised 3, but she would definitely try and post up with her back to the basket, clogging up the paint and mostly in the way.

 

[Stymie]

I would say the offensive flow comes to an end when either Aubrey or Mir are in the game because they aren't willing passers yet. I feel like they treat the ball like a hot potato. When they get it, they just go right to the basket whether that is the right decision or not. They often frantically get points but it typically isn't sustainable. That is why I believe commonly you see Aubrey come in and get some quick points but then it tails off once the defense recognizes that ball movement stops if Aubrey get the ball.

Should be an easy cure for that.
Quick hook.

 

[oldude]

Can we get a separate fighting over Aubrey thread?

So much for your effort to focus the “April Recruiting Thread” on recruiting. I feel your pain.