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bbballfan23 said:
I have no issue on where ND is ranked. They have the toughest schedule in the country. Granted their losses are not good but let’s be Stanford, Oregon St, Marquette are not better than the Irish.
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Depends on the night, I guess. Is UNC better than ND? How about Miami? How would we determine this?
 
Shades said:
Depends on the night, I guess. Is UNC better than ND? How about Miami? How would we determine this?
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Selection Monday (March 18) is 35 days away, almost a month. There is still a lot of time for teams continue to jockey for position. How they fare in their respective conference tournaments will also have a bearing on how they're seeded. Tonight at halftime, the top 16 teams will be revealed. Get into the tournament, get a good seed, and play your best ball of the year. This year, there is no clear cut favorite. There are 4-5 teams that could get hot, and run the table. Don't forget about that buzz killer "dark horse", or sleeper team. Several 1 seeds were sent home the last 2 years by a team they didn't see coming.

I'm going to use tonight's game against South Carolina as a barometer of how UConn can be expected to fare in the tournament. The Gamecocks are precisely the type of team UConn will see in the tournament. I think the die is cast. There's no one left on their schedule that can/will help them get ready. 38 or so days before their first tournament game. Can any of the players that are going to play the bulk of the minutes get any better between now and then?

There can be no let down or an "off" shooting night tonight. UConn MUST come out fast and strong like they did the last two games against ECU and Temple. You don't want to get down early to SC. You might be playing catch up all evening like they did at Baylor.

The season is winding down. With tonight's game, UConn has 7 games left, 4 of them are on the road (UCF, Tulsa, Wichita St, and USF). Tonight is a dress rehearsal for the tournament. Let's see how they do. Do they shine and play well, or do they struggle and look confused and over matched?
 
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Shades said:
Depends on the night, I guess. Is UNC better than ND? How about Miami? How would we determine this?
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Well one game was without Jackie Young but I hear you. We do know that the committee doesn’t care who you lost to so much, just who you beat.

At some point eyeballs & brains need to be used to rank teams, not just looking at a sheet of paper. I’m speaking of the committee btw, no one on this board arguing otherwise.
 
bbballfan23 said:
I don’t have much of a problem but there seems to be a glaring problem. How Stanford moved up after losing by 40 at HOME!?

If they really believe Stanford deserved to be moved up, Oregon should be the clear cut #1.
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Again, it's all relative.
And the voters on aggregate DID move Stanford down (see below).

Yes it's unusual to move up after that kind of loss, but consider:

* Some voters likely moved Card ahead of previously #7 Ore St, since they just beat them
* Prev #9 NC St lost again
* #11 Stan was WAY ahead of #12 SC last week -- almost 100 points, meaning the average voter had Stan ahead of SC by 3-4 spots. Hard to make up that ground unless something remarkable happened.
* Stanford actually had fewer points this week (423) than last week (447). And yet they moved up in the ranks. Odd, but it happens.
 
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vowelguy said:
Again, it's all relative.
And the voters on aggregate DID move Stanford down (see below).

Yes it's unusual to move up after that kind of loss, but consider:

* Some voters likely moved Card ahead of previously #7 Ore St, since they just beat them
* Prev #9 NC St lost again
* #11 Stan was WAY ahead of #12 SC last week -- almost 100 points, meaning the average voter had Stan ahead of SC by 3-4 spots. Hard to make up that ground unless something remarkable happened.
* Stanford actually had fewer points this week (423) than last week (447). And yet they moved up in the ranks. Odd, but it happens.
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THERE you go again using facts to ruin a perfectly good conspiracy theory! Head bang
 
Crazyhorse said:
Miami ahead of FSU, that is what a win over ND will do, despite the head to head in FSUs favor.
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Miami also has a win over Marquette, which means they have 2 wins that are better than any of FSU's wins.

Miami is also slightly heavier in the loss column:
Both have a loss at home to Clemson.
Both have a loss to a bubble team (FSU at home to LSU, Miami on the road to Purdue).
But Miami has an additional loss to CMU, making them slightly heavier in the loss side of the ledger.

Will be very interesting to see how the committee evaluates these two. I could see the committee putting both in the top 16, just one of them, or neither.
 
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Plebe said:
Miami also has a win over Marquette, which means they have 2 wins that are better than any of FSU's wins.

Miami is also slightly heavier in the loss column:
Both have a loss at home to Clemson.
Both have a loss to a bubble team (FSU at home to LSU, Miami on the road to Purdue).
Miami has an additional loss to CMU, making them slightly heavier in the loss side of the ledger.

Will be very interesting to see how the committee evaluates these two. I could see the committee putting both in the top 16, just one of them, or neither.
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I think due to FSUs youth and weak ooc schedule(smart by Coach Sue knowing she was losing all 5 starters) would in a case of Miami vs FSU today be in Miami's favor. Like you said UM has two better wins than any of FSUs.
 
Crazyhorse said:
I trust coaches more than media
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Nice sentiment but coaches are too busy with their own team to watch most games. And evidence has shown that the coach often passes the ranking submission to an assistant or AD.
The coaches poll also notoriously follows a win = move up ; lose = move down regardless of quality.
A team that gets a lot of wins against nobodies is much more likely to end up highly ranked in the coaches poll.
 
Louisville drops two spots to #4. Oregon to #2, UConn #3.
Miss State drops one spot to #6, ND up to #5.
Stanford, NC State, Maryland, Iowa round out the top 10.
Miami jumps from #20 to #14.
Texas falls to #19.
Drake re-enters at #24 and Rice enters at #25. First time Rice has ever been ranked.

 
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vowelguy said:
Starting to make my mouth water. Too bad Curry College* doesn't play D1.

*Yes that's a real school for you non-Northerners
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I have many students who have gone on to Curry College.... let’s just say we should stick with plain rice, lol.
 
Shades said:
2019 Women's College Basketball Rankings and Polls for Week 2 - ESPN

Nothing much has changed except Duke dropping out and Minnesota joining.
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I believe the winner of this year’s championship is among the top 6. I also believe that 4 of these top six will make the final four. Will it be considered an upset when those 2 teams are eliminated? Which two won’t get that invite to Florida for the final four weekend?

Mike Anthony: NCAA women’s Tournament should value fair matchups, consider a shift in structure
 
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Plebe said:
Louisville drops two spots to #4. Oregon to #2, UConn #3.
Miss State drops one spot to #6, ND up to #5.
Stanford, NC State, Maryland, Iowa round out the top 10.
Miami jumps from #20 to #14.
Texas falls to #19.
Drake re-enters at #24 and Rice enters at #25. First time Rice has ever been ranked.

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uconnbaseball said:
Rice has played excellently and thoroughly deserves their ranking.
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Jordy said:
Thoroughly deserves? Massey has them at 41.
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Rice has played 5 teams inside the Massey Top 100. They lost by 9 or more to the three inside the Top 50 and beat #89 and #90.

They have been very good at not losing games they shouldn't, but they're not a Top 25 team.
 
IWearShoes said:
Rice has played 5 teams inside the Massey Top 100. They lost by 9 or more to the three inside the Top 50 and beat #89 and #90.

They have been very good at not losing games they shouldn't, but they're not a Top 25 team.
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They had an injury bug at the beginning of the year and Mulkey was eligible to play start of January. They're a different team now and I would take them over UNC or UCLA in a rematch (maybe not A&M).
 
So Maryland loses to Iowa and they only drop one. Iowa beats Maryland and raises four. Boy they must be in a tough league. Oregon St loses to Oregon #2 who is coming off a blow out of Stanford and they drop four. You would think that Maryland and Iowa were in a league ranked much higher than the Pac 12. this is one of the worst up and down rankings all year. There just has to be some district bias involved in the voting. think of all the teams that have lost and only Oregon St drops 4, except for Marq. who lost ot an unrated team
 
willtalk said:
So Maryland loses to Iowa and they only drop one. Iowa beats Maryland and raises four. Boy they must be in a tough league. Oregon St loses to Oregon #2 who is coming off a blow out of Stanford and they drop four. You would think that Maryland and Iowa were in a league ranked much higher than the Pac 12. this is one of the worst up and down rankings all year. There just has to be some district bias involved in the voting. think of all the teams that have lost and only Oregon St drops 4, except for Marq. who lost ot an unrated team
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Massey is Maryland nine, Oregon State 10, Miami 11 and Iowa 12. That looks accurate to me.
 
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