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Umami Zen said:
Seth being Seth..Already told you how he will be voting for the next six weeks. Not taking into consideration that the teams ranked ahead of UConn could possibly lose and thus create some movement in polls.

We all know Seth likes the ACC
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Seth may have an ACC scheduling problem shortly. i am curious to see where he places Duke and UNC.
 
I just looked at Houston’s schedule and the best team they beat is Oregon? I have no doubt that they will be a great team this year but do their results merit a #1 ranking? What am I missing?
 
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navery12 said:
That they were the preseason #2 team and #1 just lost twice
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True, but they haven’t played anyone yet. I guess that’s part of the issue with these early season rankings. They have a couple good litmus tests against Alabama and Virginia coming up. Those games will be very telling.
 
UCLJ0211 said:
I just looked at Houston’s schedule and the best team they beat is Oregon? I have no doubt that they will be a great team this year but do their results merit a #1 ranking? What am I missing?
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You’re missing where they started the year. That’s why these polls are so dumb. The teams ahead of them lost so they move up. That’s why these polls are ridiculous.
 
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If we beat the doors off OSU Thursday those mid-teen votes definitely change. They might anyway when they see they’re 5-8 spots off the consensus.
 
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That was the big move, from here on we'll need the teams above us to lose to move up. Must be 3 seed or better by tourney time.
 
Really good to have two ranked wins already. We all will be Iowa St and Alabama fans the rest of the season. We’ll only get 2 more ranked games the rest of the year.

Also - UConn is officially elite. The expectation moving forward is that we should be a BE powerhouse. The only teams that should be able to hang with us are Creighton (would target to split the series), Xavier (but we should win both), and maybe Nova once they’re healthy (big question marks on Nova this year)

I’m talking 16-4 conference record as an absolute worst case scenario

I’m excited.
 
Huge jump. That doesn't happen too often. Huge drop for both UNC and Duke. That doesn't happen too often either.
 
hey adrien is right. this 'feast week' stuff really is energizing for fans of hoops to get the juices flowing. whatever ur attitude aboot ur team, ur league, or ur interest in the sport for the upcoming season is before the week, just a flip over to a game while commercials are running on watching the latest version of the godfather movie (really, really good one last week) will get the spark lit. noice.
there really are a lot of bad brand name teams this year. really bad.
expect upsets. wide open, why not us?
 
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REB1094 said:
Really good to have two ranked wins already. We all will be Iowa St and Alabama fans the rest of the season. We’ll only get 2 more ranked games the rest of the year.

Also - UConn is officially elite. The expectation moving forward is that we should be a BE powerhouse. The only teams that should be able to hang with us are Creighton (would target to split the series), Xavier (but we should win both), and maybe Nova once they’re healthy (big question marks on Nova this year)

I’m talking 16-4 conference record as an absolute worst case scenario

I’m excited.
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KenPom has an odd way of predicting future outcomes. For example, they predict (it changes daily) that we will finish 27-4 overall and 16-4 in the BE. Yet you look at the individual game predictions and they have us losing just one game for the remainder of the regular season -- at Creighton on Feb 11 -- but the overall prediction isn't 30-1.

I suppose I would understand it better if I did a deeper dive into his methods . . . but I'm too lazy. :rolleyes:
 
Anybody know if Oregon has a chance to put together a streak and get back into the top 25 when they’re fully healthy?

I don’t know much about them other than they were ranked to start the year and then lost a buy game.

The quadrant system uses rankings at the end of the year and not rankings at the time of the game, so would love for them to improve as the season goes on :)
 
SoFla Steve said:
KenPom has an odd way of predicting future outcomes. For example, they predict (it changes daily) that we will finish 27-4 overall and 16-4 in the BE. Yet you look at the individual game predictions and they have us losing just one game for the remainder of the regular season -- at Creighton on Feb 11 -- but the overall prediction isn't 30-1.

I suppose I would understand it better if I did a deeper dive into his methods . . . but I'm too lazy. :rolleyes:
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It's just Probability 101. If Outcome A has a 51% chance of occurring per iteration, what are the odds that Outcome A will happen every time over 100 iterations? Close to zero, right? Even though Outcome A is favored every time. That's an extreme example to illustrate what's going on inside KenPom.
 
REB1094 said:
Really good to have two ranked wins already. We all will be Iowa St and Alabama fans the rest of the season. We’ll only get 2 more ranked games the rest of the year.

Also - UConn is officially elite. The expectation moving forward is that we should be a BE powerhouse. The only teams that should be able to hang with us are Creighton (would target to split the series), Xavier (but we should win both), and maybe Nova once they’re healthy (big question marks on Nova this year)

I’m talking 16-4 conference record as an absolute worst case scenario

I’m excited.
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I would like to think that one of saint johns or xavier or seton hall or marquette will figure it out and get into the low end of the rankings this year
 
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REB1094 said:
Anybody know if Oregon has a chance to put together a streak and get back into the top 25 when they’re fully healthy?

I don’t know much about them other than they were ranked to start the year and then lost a buy game.

The quadrant system uses rankings at the end of the year and not rankings at the time of the game, so would love for them to improve as the season goes on :)
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Oregon typically starts slow and they have a few injuries. To be a Quad 1 win, they need to be top 50 in the NET since it was a neutral site. They can certainly do it, but right now they're projected to go 18-13 per Kenpom - I think they would have to win at a higher clip to be top 50.
 
Get a Job said:
It's just Probability 101. If Outcome A has a 51% chance of occurring per iteration, what are the odds that Outcome A will happen every time over 100 iterations? Close to zero, right? Even though Outcome A is favored every time. That's an extreme example to illustrate what's going on inside KenPom.
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Beating the teams ranked 11th and 23rd by 15+ and only being ranked 8th doesn’t sit right with me.
 
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