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AP Poll Week #13

upstater said:
But you can say the same about practically every other team.

Michigan barely beat Penn State and should have lost to them, that's a team that lost to Providence. Then Michigan lost to Wisconsin. After that squeaker followed by a loss, they beat the next 4 teams by about 10 points.
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Well that may be why they didn't previously leapfrog us, but then they beat two top-10 teams.
 
KingAG said:
Possibly. But this week was a weird week to do it when we just won by 30. I mean even in our rough month we didn’t lose to a Wisconsin level team. They also should’ve lost to penn State. We’ve both had a shaky month. They just lost. This week was why they jumped us. And if they won those two games no matter how much we won our games this week by, they were jumping us. Because 4/5 of the BE sucks
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Michigan beat two top 10 teams this week, it's not at all weird they jumped us today.
 
nomar said:
Well that may be why they didn't previously leapfrog us, but then they beat two top-10 teams.
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Which all circles back to it’s the BE fault. UConn will never have the opportunity that Michigan had this week. They barely beat these teams and it’s “they can’t even blow out bad teams”. They blow them out “ it doesn’t matter because they suck”. You can start to see why a competitor would begin to get disinterested. Which is what I think the majority of out January problems stemmed from.
 
superjohn said:
Michigan beat two top 10 teams this week, it's not at all weird they jumped us today.
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I’m not saying it’s weird. It’s just the BE’s fault. We’ll never have that opportunity this season in conference. We can win by 50 and it won’t matter so long as teams in better conferences continue to win. If Duke beats NC and Clemson they’ll jump us too.
 
KingAG said:
Which all circles back to it’s the BE fault. UConn will never have the opportunity that Michigan had this week. They barely beat these teams and it’s “they can’t even blow out bad teams”. They blow them out “ it doesn’t matter because they suck”. You can start to see why a competitor would begin to get disinterested. Which is what I think the majority of out January problems stemmed from.
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It's nobodies fault, we just played the toughest teams on our schedule early in the season. St. John's fits into that mix and we haven't played our two regular season games against them yet. Nova may also be ranked when we go down there.
 
KingAG said:
I’m not saying it’s weird. It’s just the BE’s fault. We’ll never have that opportunity this season in conference. We can win by 50 and it won’t matter so long as teams in better conferences continue to win. If Duke beats NC and Clemson they’ll jump us too.
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You said this week was a weird one for Michigan to jump UConn.
 
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superjohn said:
It's nobodies fault, we just played the toughest teams on our schedule early in the season. St. John's fits into that mix and we haven't played our two regular season games against them yet. Nova may also be ranked when we go down there.
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“We just played the toughest teams on our schedule early in the season”

You don’t see a problem with this statement? This is exactly why it’s the BE ‘s fault. We won’t have the same amount of opportunities at big wins as teams from the B10, SEC, Big 12 and even the ACC. There are going to be weeks where we play PC and Creighton Duke plays 2 top 25 teams.
 
jibsey said:
Duke is not in the strongest conference. Do they ever move down after not losing a game?
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ACC is still better than the Big East and the past few weeks they've been winning these conf games convincingly, not going life and death with scrub teams
 
jibsey said:
Duke is not in the strongest conference. Do they ever move down after not losing a game?
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Duke has the benefit of playing some overrated teams in their conference like Louisville, Clemson, and Virginia.
 
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RuffRuff said:
The loss is old news at this point. These polls are week to week.

We did just get by PC at home. They have two top ten wins in one week. We have one all year (Illinois). They're also widely recognized as being neck and neck favorite with AZ from a metrics/Vegas perspective. This one really isn't that weird.
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You were doing good until you added Vegas again. You can’t help yourself. Again when will we have that opportunity that Michigan had last week in the BE? Or even something like what Duke will have next week against UNC and Clemson? Blame the BE. UConn can’t win this year in this conference
 
aceboon said:
ACC is still better than the Big East and the past few weeks they've been winning these conf games convincingly, not going life and death with scrub teams
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It's damn hard to tell how the ACC compares to the BE. In an alternate universe, if there were a BE / ACC Challenge this year, it would be very hard to know the status of UNC vs. St. John's, or Villanova vs. Louisville.

We do know, however, that Georgetown beat Clemson in THIS universe.
 
Guys if we keep pointing out how few good teams the Big East has, a certain poster is going to get very angry and say we are all Boston College fans.
 
upstater said:
It's damn hard to tell how the ACC compares to the BE. In an alternate universe, if there were a BE / ACC Challenge this year, it would be very hard to know the status of UNC vs. St. John's, or Villanova vs. Louisville.

We do know, however, that Georgetown beat Clemson in THIS universe.
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St. John's and Nova are just as good as UNC and Ville, IMO.
 
rashadray11 said:
Next year we should schedule games against Gonzaga and Duke in January and February. They both need them like us
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Except not so much.

This is a result of a series of factors:
1. Struggling against the likes of Providence, the Hall, Georgetown, DePaul. Meanwhile Michigan was beating the #5 and #7 teams in the country.
2. There is always a recency bias in this. Our wins against ranked opponents occurred in November-December. Theirs occurred back to back last week.
3. Overall perception that the B10 is superior to the NBE. Which is true. 5 teams in the Top 10 is better than 1 in the Top 10 and 1 in the Top 25. And no, Nelson, I’m not advocating to rejoin the American. Just pointing out a fact.
4. Michigan’s wins are equal or better than our wins. They beat Gonzaga, Nebraska and Michigan State. In our only(I think) common opponent they blew Villanova out of the building. We got taken to OT at home. Again recency bias comes into play. Not a knock on our wins. Just the way things are perceived.
 
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freescooter said:
Except not so much.

This is a result of a series of factors:
1. Struggling against the likes of Providence, the Hall, Georgetown, DePaul. Meanwhile Michigan was beating the #5 and #7 teams in the country.
2. There is always a recency bias in this. Our wins against ranked opponents occurred in November-December. Theirs occurred back to back last week.
3. Overall perception that the B10 is superior to the NBE. Which is true. 5 teams in the Top 10 is better than 1 in the Top 10 and 1 in the Top 25. And no, Nelson, I’m not advocating to rejoin the American. Just pointing out a fact.
4. Michigan’s wins are equal or better than our wins. They beat Gonzaga, Nebraska and Michigan State. In our only(I think) common opponent they blew Villanova out of the building. We got taken to OT at home. Again recency bias comes into play. Not a knock on our wins. Just the way things are perceived.
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If we scheduled Gonzaga and Duke in JANUARY AND FEBRUARY, we'd have more high level win opportunities after non-con play. That removes recency bias.
 
freescooter said:
Except not so much.

This is a result of a series of factors:
1. Struggling against the likes of Providence, the Hall, Georgetown, DePaul. Meanwhile Michigan was beating the #5 and #7 teams in the country.
2. There is always a recency bias in this. Our wins against ranked opponents occurred in November-December. Theirs occurred back to back last week.
3. Overall perception that the B10 is superior to the NBE. Which is true. 5 teams in the Top 10 is better than 1 in the Top 10 and 1 in the Top 25. And no, Nelson, I’m not advocating to rejoin the American. Just pointing out a fact.
4. Michigan’s wins are equal or better than our wins. They beat Gonzaga, Nebraska and Michigan State. In our only(I think) common opponent they blew Villanova out of the building. We got taken to OT at home. Again recency bias comes into play. Not a knock on our wins. Just the way things are perceived.
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This wouldn’t be a problem if the BE didn’t suck. You know why you don’t remember Mich close win against Penn State or them losing to Wisconsin? Because they had high end opportunities after that.
 
Schools with good programs we should be scheduling games against after the non-con:

Duke, Gonzaga, UNC, Louisiville, St. Louis, Dayton, St. Marys, San Diego State.

All of these schools have reliably strong Q1 programs. All of them play in leagues that they would be open to scheudling other top level competition outside of their conference play. We should try to get at least two of these every year during BE play.
 
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