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Unfortunately RE 1 has absolutely no applicability in an NIL world. What worked even 5 years ago is not applicable.
Things really changed here only when Mora was blunt about NIL and we somehow clearly stepped that up. The earlier commenter was spot on when he mentioned that the days of hiring a new coach from a good school automatically meant a few good players would come with him are over. They will come if they like the coach AND there is NIL to be had.
And what is not mentioned often, but clearly pointed out by others, probably half of the recent successes are due to the fact that AD David Benedict was able to significantly dumb down the schedule.
 
And what is not mentioned often, but clearly pointed out by others, probably half of the recent successes are due to the fact that AD David Benedict was able to significantly dumb down the schedule.
Appropriately so. There were 3 teams on this years 12 game schedule that could/should outresource the Huskies: Duke, BC, Syracuse. 2 out of 3 ain't bad(Meatloaf?). Next year there are 4, Syr, UNC, MD and Duke with JMU possibly ahead of our guys also. Not overscheduling allows us to physically and emotionally recover from the "BIG" games. Look at the Delaware effort post Syracuse. Imagine if that was Virginia or Clemson or Pitt instead? It might have been a shellacking rather than a terrible OT loss. At some point WHEN we have ample resources we can play a big boy schedule, dive into the deep end of the pool and see if we can swim. In the meantime, winning is winning. The new coach is going to have their work cut out for them next year with that schedule. It should be tougher than this year and without Fagnano, Bell and Mora. We go 7-5, and I'd call that a successful rebuild!.
 
I keep coming back to the fact that we were 9-3, could have been 12-0, but could have just as easily been 5-7 or worse. It just so happened that most of the teams on our schedule were either bad or worse than usual and we happened to have a few big-time difference makers. Point being, he may not have been that great a coach and UConn is not a top 40 program at this point. What he did was bring a big name (P4, NFL Coach) and some charisma to the program, and that brought a lot of attention and legitimacy. We need a great coach, maybe someone like Cahill is that guy, we don't know. I feel like it has to be a big name with a proven record who will continue to attract the attention of the P4 programs. I'm all for an up and comer but he is going to really have to sell the program. We make take a step back next year but two steps would mean big trouble. Gotta keep moving forward.
 
Some basketball fans would be happy with no football here. I have heard it for myself at events. So it is a real thing.
And THAT sentiment started in the 70's when the National Championship caliber Men's soccer team played St. Louis U. on the Memorial Stadium turf & wanted to disband football & allocate all football revenue to Men's soccer. It went into dormancy when Lew Perkins was hired & pledged to upgrade football to 1-A status, but rose again like the Phoenix during the Pasqualoni regime...
 
I keep coming back to the fact that we were 9-3, could have been 12-0, but could have just as easily been 5-7 or worse. It just so happened that most of the teams on our schedule were either bad or worse than usual and we happened to have a few big-time difference makers. Point being, he may not have been that great a coach and UConn is not a top 40 program at this point. What he did was bring a big name (P4, NFL Coach) and some charisma to the program, and that brought a lot of attention and legitimacy. We need a great coach, maybe someone like Cahill is that guy, we don't know. I feel like it has to be a big name with a proven record who will continue to attract the attention of the P4 programs. I'm all for an up and comer but he is going to really have to sell the program. We make take a step back next year but two steps would mean big trouble. Gotta keep moving forward.
Does a "name" do as good a job as an up and comer? Is an up and comer able to recruit based on his name? I'm betting with DB. He caught lightning in a bottle with Mora. Anxious(mildly) to see his thoughts on this hire.
 
Appropriately so. There were 3 teams on this years 12 game schedule that could/should outresource the Huskies: Duke, BC, Syracuse. 2 out of 3 ain't bad(Meatloaf?). Next year there are 4, Syr, UNC, MD and Duke with JMU possibly ahead of our guys also. Not overscheduling allows us to physically and emotionally recover from the "BIG" games. Look at the Delaware effort post Syracuse. Imagine if that was Virginia or Clemson or Pitt instead? It might have been a shellacking rather than a terrible OT loss. At some point WHEN we have ample resources we can play a big boy schedule, dive into the deep end of the pool and see if we can swim. In the meantime, winning is winning. The new coach is going to have their work cut out for them next year with that schedule. It should be tougher than this year and without Fagnano, Bell and Mora. We go 7-5, and I'd call that a successful rebuild!.
I'm not sure I would call that a success necessarily. Depends on who we beat. If for example we lose to the 4 P4 teams and JMU, but win every other game, we would be 7-5 but have beaten nobody of note and our only home W would be UMass. Wouldn't be the worst season but wouldn't feel like a success either. I would call it more averting a potential crisis lol
 
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I guess I want someone who can communicate as well as Mora. And can cheer lead as well as Mora which requires a rapport with the players like Mora had. I think almost anyone with a decent amount of football experience can evaluate talent and realize this HS or potential transfer player isn't getting heavily recruited because of this or that flaw in his game. But we can polish that out of his game and he will be amazing if we do that. Here is exactly what his performance improvement program would look like in broad strokes. But he has gotta motivate that player to go thru that program (which will require huge amounts of work). That is the difficult thing. And he has got to manage and motivate his staff. Those are qualities that are less common. Case in point, HCPP who knew more about FB than any coach we ever had. On game day all he could do was look at his shoes in frustration on the sideline when 6-6 and a bowl game was on the line. Getting the players in today's environment is a lot easier than it was. Wave the green in front of their noses. Someone said that CFB has moved into the semi professional era. I disagree. It is now market driven and fully professional.
 
I'm not sure I would call that a success necessarily. Depends on who we beat. If for example we lose to the 4 P4 teams and JMU, but win every other game, we would be 7-5 but have beaten nobody of note and our only home W would be UMass. Wouldn't be the worst season but wouldn't feel like a success either. I would call it more averting a potential crisis lol
Agree. Thinking a losing season would be disastrous for alot of reasons. A winning season would be holding serve. 8-4 would be super. Just get the wins, maybe get one of the 5 tough scalps. We lost to Delaware this year, but beat 2 of the teams that on paper "should" beat us. I'd take a WTF loss to go with 2 of the 5 paper losses as wins.
 
I'm not sure I would call that a success necessarily. Depends on who we beat. If for example we lose to the 4 P4 teams and JMU, but win every other game, we would be 7-5 but have beaten nobody of note and our only home W would be UMass. Wouldn't be the worst season but wouldn't feel like a success either. I would call it more averting a potential crisis lol
Of course it would be a success. You guys are unbelievable. Not a single G6 program plays 5 P4 games but us. Same with playing 4 or even 3. Maybe somebody plays 3. And only Tulane had 2 P4 wins. We didn’t dumb down the schedule. We are playing a.schedule that is appropriate for what we are. There are some folks like shizzle and rstuthill who want us to only play teams from the Top 25. Then they’ll complain that we are 0-12. Every G team plays mostly other teams from the same level. That’s what we do too. With a preference for those that are regional when possible.
 
Of course it would be a success. You guys are unbelievable. Not a single G6 program plays 5 P4 games but us. Same with playing 4 or even 3. Maybe somebody plays 3. And only Tulane had 2 P4 wins. We didn’t dumb down the schedule. We are playing a.schedule that is appropriate for what we are. There are some folks like shizzle and rstuthill who want us to only play teams from the Top 25. Then they’ll complain that we are 0-12. Every G team plays mostly other teams from the same level. That’s what we do too. With a preference for those that are regional when possible.
But if we have a P4 guy like Terry Smith we can play in the Big Ten and go 9-3 😉
 
Does a "name" do as good a job as an up and comer? Is an up and comer able to recruit based on his name? I'm betting with DB. He caught lightning in a bottle with Mora. Anxious(mildly) to see his thoughts on this hire.
It’s a balance.
If a coach is successful at a lower level, it’s not a guarantee they will be successful at a higher level, but it’s a great indicator.

The trick with an established coach is really what motivates them. Are they just looking to cash in on their name (belichik), or are they looking to build something and are they willing to put forth the energy to do that.
I’m sure if you ask, they will say what you want to hear. But that’s where Benedict will hopefully figure out the best fit.

I think a balance of HC experience, career on upward trajectory, success in running a program, can build off of what we have, and wants to be in CT/Northeast.

If I follow that, I suppose Mora wouldn’t have been a candidate in my book. But I think Mora was the exception, not the norm. And that’s why I give credit to Benedict. I think he’s open, can read a person, and can flex to find the best fit available.

I really just hope it’s not Moorhead or some other retread coming off failure as opposed to someone using their success to climb up to UConn.
 
It might be an exaggeration to say they're "paranoid" about football being popular, but there definitely is anti-football sentiment from some basketball people at UConn.
I hear you, but what would be any reason for that. A true Husky fan should want the best for anything affiliated with UConn period.,
 
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Basketball-only fans blame football for the Big East for blowing up, and UConn ending up in the AAC, where basketball was dying a slow death. It's understandable. Being back in the Big East has definitely helped UConn basketball.

But clearly, long-term, UConn needs to be in a P4 conference to survive for both football AND basketball, and anybody who thinks otherwise has their head in the sand. The Big East will fall further and further behind as P4 conferences offer unheard of NIL money.
 
Basketball-only fans blame football for the Big East for blowing up, and UConn ending up in the AAC, where basketball was dying a slow death. It's understandable. Being back in the Big East has definitely helped UConn basketball.

But clearly, long-term, UConn needs to be in a P4 conference to survive for both football AND basketball, and anybody who thinks otherwise has their head in the sand. The Big East will fall further and further behind as P4 conferences offer unheard of NIL money.
Just look at UConn baseball winning the Big East regular season title and getting left out of the tournament.
 
Of course it would be a success. You guys are unbelievable. Not a single G6 program plays 5 P4 games but us. Same with playing 4 or even 3. Maybe somebody plays 3. And only Tulane had 2 P4 wins. We didn’t dumb down the schedule. We are playing a.schedule that is appropriate for what we are. There are some folks like shizzle and rstuthill who want us to only play teams from the Top 25. Then they’ll complain that we are 0-12. Every G team plays mostly other teams from the same level. That’s what we do too. With a preference for those that are regional when possible.
If losing to every formidable team on the schedule, and having your only home win come against FBS bottom feeder UMass is a successful season to you, then so be it. But I have a totally different standard for success in regards to this team. This isn't a program that struggles to win games anymore, we've shown we can beat the FBS bottom feeders. So while a season where we didn't lose to any of them wouldn't be a failure, not beating any of the good teams on our schedule would be a disappointment. I also think if we struggled to win at home our attendance would take a hit, which I would view as a step back for the program. This scenario would be a middling season at best, not the homerun success you're making it out to be.

Also, I don't understand how anything you wrote has anything to do with the post I made. What does playing 5 marquee games have to do with anything I said? I never said we had a weak schedule next year, yet you spent 3 sentences talking about how much harder our schedule will be than most of the "G" teams next year. Nobody said anything about dumbing down the schedule in either my post or the one I was responding to. In fact, we were actually talking about it being a solid schedule in terms of opponent strength. Tulane winning 2 P4 games this year has nothing to do with us potentially winning 0 next year. I'm not shizzle or rstuthill and have never advocated for only playing strong teams.

It sounds like you're conflating my post with other posts you've read in this thread that bother you. If not, can you tell me what exactly you would find successful about a 7-5 season with one home win over a terrible team?
 
Unfortunately RE 1 has absolutely no applicability in an NIL world. What worked even 5 years ago is not applicable.
Things really changed here only when Mora was blunt about NIL and we somehow clearly stepped that up. The earlier commenter was spot on when he mentioned that the days of hiring a new coach from a good school automatically meant a few good players would come with him are over. They will come if they like the coach AND there is NIL to be had.
If what worked in the past has no applicability and this year we are ranked at 41, and another poster said it would impossible to be a top 40 program, we arrive at the same place … there is no factual basis for the contention, quite the opposite. If you want to argue it costs too much money, at least you have some articulable basis to object to the program, but few do because it’s a very slippery slope.
 
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If losing to every formidable team on the schedule, and having your only home win come against FBS bottom feeder UMass is a successful season to you, then so be it. But I have a totally different standard for success in regards to this team. This isn't a program that struggles to win games anymore, we've shown we can beat the FBS bottom feeders. So while a season where we didn't lose to any of them wouldn't be a failure, not beating any of the good teams on our schedule would be a disappointment. I also think if we struggled to win at home our attendance would take a hit, which I would view as a step back for the program. This scenario would be a middling season at best, not the homerun success you're making it out to be.

Also, I don't understand how anything you wrote has anything to do with the post I made. What does playing 5 marquee games have to do with anything I said? I never said we had a weak schedule next year, yet you spent 3 sentences talking about how much harder our schedule will be than most of the "G" teams next year. Nobody said anything about dumbing down the schedule in either my post or the one I was responding to. In fact, we were actually talking about it being a solid schedule in terms of opponent strength. Tulane winning 2 P4 games this year has nothing to do with us potentially winning 0 next year. I'm not shizzle or rstuthill and have never advocated for only playing strong teams.

It sounds like you're conflating my post with other posts you've read in this thread that bother you. If not, can you tell me what exactly you would find successful about a 7-5 season with one home win over a terrible team?
The goal is to remain attractive for the next conference alignment shuffle.

We do that by going 8-4 or better each year and beating P4 teams in bowls. We do that by drawing 30k+ to the Rent and investing in football. We catch lightning in a bottle like we potentially might have had this year with our offense then we’re allowed to dream about 12-0 and playoffs. But the goal remains the same as stated above.
 
The basketball fans are paranoid about going anywhere but the Big East no matter how it effects the football program. So I think his point was they would see the football program die before they would leave the Big East again. Even though the Big East isn't what it used to be. They would wine about team travel(in the Big 12) even though they have to travel to Nebraska and Wisconsin now. And that will make any football coach either pass on UConn or always have their antenna searching for a new gig.
Probably 98% of diehard UConn basketball fans (not talking about basketball only fans from around the country who jumped on the bandwagon because UConn basketball is a national brand) are UConn fans. They root for UConn in everything and they desperately want them in a P4. People like having 10 times more money.
 
Of course it would be a success. You guys are unbelievable. Not a single G6 program plays 5 P4 games but us. Same with playing 4 or even 3. Maybe somebody plays 3. And only Tulane had 2 P4 wins. We didn’t dumb down the schedule. We are playing a.schedule that is appropriate for what we are. There are some folks like shizzle and rstuthill who want us to only play teams from the Top 25. Then they’ll complain that we are 0-12. Every G team plays mostly other teams from the same level. That’s what we do too. With a preference for those that are regional when possible.
I think the argument on the other side is more complicated than you’re pretending. Many — certainly I — think our level of P-4 opponents — teams that are usually in the bottom half of their conferences — is totally appropriate. Where many want the schedule upgraded is starting to play at least some G-5 teams that are spread through the Top 100, as opposed to the truly dog poop we’ve played the last two years. That’s not knocking what has been done to date — we were digging ourselves out of a UMass sized hole. But going forward, if we want to truly be one of the more powerful G-5 teams, we have to play and beat the more powerful G-5 teams
 
If you are somewhat good like the last 2 years, you can sometimes out energize and out effort teams. I’ve noticed that about UConn since RE 1.0. Underdog chip on your shoulder mentality
 
I think the argument on the other side is more complicated than you’re pretending. Many — certainly I — think our level of P-4 opponents — teams that are usually in the bottom half of their conferences — is totally appropriate. Where many want the schedule upgraded is starting to play at least some G-5 teams that are spread through the Top 100, as opposed to the truly dog poop we’ve played the last two years. That’s not knocking what has been done to date — we were digging ourselves out of a UMass sized hole. But going forward, if we want to truly be one of the more powerful G-5 teams, we have to play and beat the more powerful G-5 teams
I have been thinking about the schedule we play for a while and I give AD David Benedict a TON of credit... We are playing the LOOK how MANY games we won, and we beat 2 P4 teams... but don't look too closely to the teams we actually played.. This year, besides playing Duke I don't think there was another team with a better than 500 record. Have a winning record and you get some press.. "look at the turn around at UConn" We need as much good press as possible to drive more attention, more seats in the stands, more conferences saying maybe UConn can add value. If we continue to get good press and better players and drive more revenue then I think AD David Benedict starts to schedule better teams and can tell a better story to the other conferences.. but at this phase of our rebuild we need good press and not show up in that ridiculous ESPN bottom 10.. Slow and steady growth gets us to the finish line...
 
The basketball fans are paranoid about going anywhere but the Big East no matter how it effects the football program. So I think his point was they would see the football program die before they would leave the Big East again. Even though the Big East isn't what it used to be. They would wine about team travel(in the Big 12) even though they have to travel to Nebraska and Wisconsin now. And that will make any football coach either pass on UConn or always have their antenna searching for a new gig.
I think you just made that up. Number one complaint on the basketball page is the weakness of the Big East and how UConn is carrying it. I think a poll there would be at least 80% in favor of either moving to the Big 12 or ACC, probably above 95% if the B1G was added as an option.
 
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I think both of you are correct. More knowledge hoops only fans know that the Big East is slowly circling the drain and we need to get out of there and to one of the power conferences to stay competitive. I do not think all of them thought that 5 years ago, but they can see that now.

On the other side, there are still many many more "casual" fans who think Syracuse and Pitt are still in the Big East (I am looking at you, Senator Murphy) and believe UConn's place is in the Big East forever.
 
I have been thinking about the schedule we play for a while and I give AD David Benedict a TON of credit... We are playing the LOOK how MANY games we won, and we beat 2 P4 teams... but don't look too closely to the teams we actually played.. This year, besides playing Duke I don't think there was another team with a better than 500 record. Have a winning record and you get some press.. "look at the turn around at UConn" We need as much good press as possible to drive more attention, more seats in the stands, more conferences saying maybe UConn can add value. If we continue to get good press and better players and drive more revenue then I think AD David Benedict starts to schedule better teams and can tell a better story to the other conferences.. but at this phase of our rebuild we need good press and not show up in that ridiculous ESPN bottom 10.. Slow and steady growth gets us to the finish line...
FIU was also 7-5. Duke would be the team you want to beat with a winning record for credibility anyways.

The schedule should definitely improve as we get better as a program but there isn’t much to complain about this year win-wise.
 
I think you just made that up. Number one complaint on the basketball page is the weakness of the Big East and how UConn is carrying it. I think a poll there would be at least 80% in favor of either moving to the Big 12 or ACC, probably above 95% if the B1G was added as an option.

That’s a new development based on the weakness of the Big East this season and last.

These people literally wanted to shutter the football program and were telling us that the Big East would be part of the final reckoning with the other 5 Power Conferences.
 
So their vision is to be like Providence or Seton Hall ?
Yes, it seems like some would prefer to be like the other BE teams with no football but I think the vast majority of UConn basketball fans (and I mean >80-90%) would welcome an invite from the B10 or the B12 or the ACC (so long as Dook and UNC remain there). But, the barrier to those invites that we have been told (most recently by the B12) is the lack of football tradition combined with the weakness of the football program since that Fiesta Bowl game (and, I guess for the B10, also not having AAU membership). I mean are we ever going to find a P4 conference commissioner as bullish about us as Brett Yormark? And even that was not enough. Would that change coming off the last two seasons of FB success? Personally, I don't think so.

So we are faced with four unenviable options: (1) continue to try and go along as an independent for FB and try to combat the above feelings about our FB program which seems to be an impossible task (unless we get a splashy hire and show deep pockets to support the program and even then we are on the outside looking in); or (2) hang on as an independent, stay on this upswing and see how the next wave of conference realignment shakes out? Or, (3) look to join a G5 conference for football only or possibly all sports? Or, (4) abandon FBS football (say in favor of FCS football), and stay in the Big East.
 
I think that even the most diehard UConn/Big East hoop fans now realize that the conference is on a downward slide and that basketball needs a power conference and football is the ticket to get there.
 
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