It so patently false and the RE1 era proves the opposite. I guess if you repeat the same BS long enough people start believing it. Why basketball heads are so adverse to football is just beyond comprehension. I want basketball, football, baseball, hockey, soccer and every other team to dominate.
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Any word on a new HC @ UConn yet?
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I want them to dominate just as much as the next guy. But where will the money come to be elite? You? Cuz that does not exist today. It’s just a simple fact.
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Some basketball fans would be happy with no football here. I have heard it for myself at events. So it is a real thing.
Suzie Herbst! I had successfully blocked that name from my
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It’s Cahill. He’s at his first HC job, wants to finish the job he started, feels strongly about not leaving the kids high and dry. DB probably praying for an early exit from FCS playoffs, but is sure Cahill is the man for the job. Lew and Jeff had RE1.0 picked before Skip was done saying his goodbyes(Lew was pissed, he really liked Skip, who was doing a solid job). Feels the same to me.
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The basketball fans are paranoid about going anywhere but the Big East no matter how it effects the football program. So I think his point was they would see the football program die before they would leave the Big East again. Even though the Big East isn't what it used to be. They would wine about team travel(in the Big 12) even though they have to travel to Nebraska and Wisconsin now. And that will make any football coach either pass on UConn or always have their antenna searching for a new gig.
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its more, paranoid that football might have some effect on BB dominance.
Like resources flowing more to FB might take away $’s from BB. Or moving to ACC or Big 12 ‘to chase football money’
Outside of 10 programs, awfully difficult to be elite in FB. But, just to be a Top 40 program takes a sizable Investment that up until now UConn hasn’t been willing to make. Look at the RE2.0 as perfect example.
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Unfortunately RE 1 has absolutely no applicability in an NIL world. What worked even 5 years ago is not applicable.
Things really changed here only when Mora was blunt about NIL and we somehow clearly stepped that up. The earlier commenter was spot on when he mentioned that the days of hiring a new coach from a good school automatically meant a few good players would come with him are over. They will come if they like the coach AND there is NIL to be had.
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And what is not mentioned often, but clearly pointed out by others, probably half of the recent successes are due to the fact that AD David Benedict was able to significantly dumb down the schedule.
Appropriately so. There were 3 teams on this years 12 game schedule that could/should outresource the Huskies: Duke, BC, Syracuse. 2 out of 3 ain't bad(Meatloaf?). Next year there are 4, Syr, UNC, MD and Duke with JMU possibly ahead of our guys also. Not overscheduling allows us to physically and emotionally recover from the "BIG" games. Look at the Delaware effort post Syracuse. Imagine if that was Virginia or Clemson or Pitt instead? It might have been a shellacking rather than a terrible OT loss. At some point WHEN we have ample resources we can play a big boy schedule, dive into the deep end of the pool and see if we can swim. In the meantime, winning is winning. The new coach is going to have their work cut out for them next year with that schedule. It should be tougher than this year and without Fagnano, Bell and Mora. We go 7-5, and I'd call that a successful rebuild!.
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I keep coming back to the fact that we were 9-3, could have been 12-0, but could have just as easily been 5-7 or worse. It just so happened that most of the teams on our schedule were either bad or worse than usual and we happened to have a few big-time difference makers. Point being, he may not have been that great a coach and UConn is not a top 40 program at this point. What he did was bring a big name (P4, NFL Coach) and some charisma to the program, and that brought a lot of attention and legitimacy. We need a great coach, maybe someone like Cahill is that guy, we don't know. I feel like it has to be a big name with a proven record who will continue to attract the attention of the P4 programs. I'm all for an up and comer but he is going to really have to sell the program. We make take a step back next year but two steps would mean big trouble. Gotta keep moving forward.
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And THAT sentiment started in the 70's when the National Championship caliber Men's soccer team played St. Louis U. on the Memorial Stadium turf & wanted to disband football & allocate all football revenue to Men's soccer. It went into dormancy when Lew Perkins was hired & pledged to upgrade football to 1-A status, but rose again like the Phoenix during the Pasqualoni regime...
Does a "name" do as good a job as an up and comer? Is an up and comer able to recruit based on his name? I'm betting with DB. He caught lightning in a bottle with Mora. Anxious(mildly) to see his thoughts on this hire.
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I'm not sure I would call that a success necessarily. Depends on who we beat. If for example we lose to the 4 P4 teams and JMU, but win every other game, we would be 7-5 but have beaten nobody of note and our only home W would be UMass. Wouldn't be the worst season but wouldn't feel like a success either. I would call it more averting a potential crisis lol
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I guess I want someone who can communicate as well as Mora. And can cheer lead as well as Mora which requires a rapport with the players like Mora had. I think almost anyone with a decent amount of football experience can evaluate talent and realize this HS or potential transfer player isn't getting heavily recruited because of this or that flaw in his game. But we can polish that out of his game and he will be amazing if we do that. Here is exactly what his performance improvement program would look like in broad strokes. But he has gotta motivate that player to go thru that program (which will require huge amounts of work). That is the difficult thing. And he has got to manage and motivate his staff. Those are qualities that are less common. Case in point, HCPP who knew more about FB than any coach we ever had. On game day all he could do was look at his shoes in frustration on the sideline when 6-6 and a bowl game was on the line. Getting the players in today's environment is a lot easier than it was. Wave the green in front of their noses. Someone said that CFB has moved into the semi professional era. I disagree. It is now market driven and fully professional.
Agree. Thinking a losing season would be disastrous for alot of reasons. A winning season would be holding serve. 8-4 would be super. Just get the wins, maybe get one of the 5 tough scalps. We lost to Delaware this year, but beat 2 of the teams that on paper "should" beat us. I'd take a WTF loss to go with 2 of the 5 paper losses as wins.
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Of course it would be a success. You guys are unbelievable. Not a single G6 program plays 5 P4 games but us. Same with playing 4 or even 3. Maybe somebody plays 3. And only Tulane had 2 P4 wins. We didn’t dumb down the schedule. We are playing a.schedule that is appropriate for what we are. There are some folks like shizzle and rstuthill who want us to only play teams from the Top 25. Then they’ll complain that we are 0-12. Every G team plays mostly other teams from the same level. That’s what we do too. With a preference for those that are regional when possible.
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But if we have a P4 guy like Terry Smith we can play in the Big Ten and go 9-3 😉
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It’s a balance.
If a coach is successful at a lower level, it’s not a guarantee they will be successful at a higher level, but it’s a great indicator.
The trick with an established coach is really what motivates them. Are they just looking to cash in on their name (belichik), or are they looking to build something and are they willing to put forth the energy to do that.
I’m sure if you ask, they will say what you want to hear. But that’s where Benedict will hopefully figure out the best fit.
I think a balance of HC experience, career on upward trajectory, success in running a program, can build off of what we have, and wants to be in CT/Northeast.
If I follow that, I suppose Mora wouldn’t have been a candidate in my book. But I think Mora was the exception, not the norm. And that’s why I give credit to Benedict. I think he’s open, can read a person, and can flex to find the best fit available.
I really just hope it’s not Moorhead or some other retread coming off failure as opposed to someone using their success to climb up to UConn.
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I hear you, but what would be any reason for that. A true Husky fan should want the best for anything affiliated with UConn period.,
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An extra $26M would be great.
You know what else would be great?
$5-10M and fans like you not talking like this.
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Basketball-only fans blame football for the Big East for blowing up, and UConn ending up in the AAC, where basketball was dying a slow death. It's understandable. Being back in the Big East has definitely helped UConn basketball.
But clearly, long-term, UConn needs to be in a P4 conference to survive for both football AND basketball, and anybody who thinks otherwise has their head in the sand. The Big East will fall further and further behind as P4 conferences offer unheard of NIL money.
But clearly, long-term, UConn needs to be in a P4 conference to survive for both football AND basketball, and anybody who thinks otherwise has their head in the sand. The Big East will fall further and further behind as P4 conferences offer unheard of NIL money.
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Just look at UConn baseball winning the Big East regular season title and getting left out of the tournament.
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