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MTHusky said:
So, based on your thinking, ND would be rejected because they aren't AAU either! Dumb
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ND, more so to the B1G than any other conference is a special case.

The B1G has historically been the major conference in middle America, towering over everything else (look at average attendance for a MAC game) yet arguably the biggest property in college football, one that is in the heart of the B1G's traditional footprint and the dominant college team in the (pre-adding Rutty) BiG's largest market (also the second largest in the country) is not a B1G school. Yes, the B1G has nobody to blame but themselves for ignoring this school more than a century ago but as long as there is a chance that ND will join a conference for football the B1G needs to find a way to try to get them in their conference.
 
eerlaw's post sounded like a compendium of stuff that's already been on twitter. *shrug*
 
MTHusky said:
So, based on your thinking, ND would be rejected because they aren't AAU either! Dumb
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I thought I addressed this but maybe it was a different thread - ND is the exception because of their history with the Big Ten (especially rivalries with Michigan, Michigan State, and to a lesser extent Purdue) and their national brand. If you really think UConn is on the same level nationally as Notre Dame, I won't waste my breath trying to convince you otherwise. I just think we should focus on more realistic goals like the ACC.
 
phild said:
I thought I addressed this but maybe it was a different thread - ND is the exception because of their history with the Big Ten (especially rivalries with Michigan, Michigan State, and to a lesser extent Purdue) and their national brand. If you really think UConn is on the same level nationally as Notre Dame, I won't waste my breath trying to convince you otherwise. I just think we should focus on more realistic goals like the ACC.
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Yes, this board thinks were on the same level nationally as Notre Dame. You figured it out.
 
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upstater said:
They've said this since forever. What they say and what they do are two separate things. The ACC has also said things about academics. I'm not hanging my hat on them.
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Actually what they do has been entirely consistent with this. The B1G just invited two contiguous state schools with AAU membership. The ACC only had one move previously and rejected WVU.
 
noeynox said:
Yes, this board thinks were on the same level nationally as Notre Dame. You figured it out.
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Who won the last head-to-head matchup? They have a nice history from the 1920's and the Gipper and all, but what have they done lately?

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We already discussed Nebraska's invitation process.

HuskyHawk said:
Actually what they do has been entirely consistent with this. The B1G just invited two contiguous state schools with AAU membership. The ACC only had one move previously and rejected WVU.
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upstater said:
I might be stupid, but what history does Louisville have?

They had one good year in 1990 under Schnellenberger, who went on to coach D2, but only started winning again in 1998 under Smith, all the way through 2005-6 under Petrino. Louisville history, as best I can tell, consists of about 9 or 10 good seasons within a span of 16 or 17 years. all of them recent. Prior to 2004, all those seasons were in a weak CUSA.

Granted, Cincy was MAC level prior to its BE entry, but I'm having a hard time being impressed here.
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Nine straight bowls. Eleven overall. Twice ranked as high as #6 nationally in the 2000s. And before Schnellenberger, they were coached by Lee Corso. They've produced around 40 NFL players, including 17 active ones. That's a pretty good track record.

For a school with a total of 3 bowl wins, with 2 of them coming against Buffalo and Toledo, you guys sure talk a lot of smack about your program.
 
IthacaMatt said:
Nine straight bowls. Eleven overall. Twice ranked as high as #6 nationally in the 2000s. And before Schnellenberger, they were coached by Lee Corso. They've produced around 40 NFL players, including 17 active ones. That's a pretty good track record.

For a school with a total of 3 bowl wins, with 2 of them coming against Buffalo and Toledo, you guys sure talk a lot of smack about your program.
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Does Lee Corso count as a plus or a minus?
 
IthacaMatt said:
Nine straight bowls. Eleven overall. Twice ranked as high as #6 nationally in the 2000s. And before Schnellenberger, they were coached by Lee Corso. They've produced around 40 NFL players, including 17 active ones. That's a pretty good track record.

For a school with a total of 3 bowl wins, with 2 of them coming against Buffalo and Toledo, you guys sure talk a lot of smack about your program.
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Well we got GDL and PP and you don't so there.

Wait a minute.....
 
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IthacaMatt said:
Nine straight bowls. Eleven overall. Twice ranked as high as #6 nationally in the 2000s. And before Schnellenberger, they were coached by Lee Corso. They've produced around 40 NFL players, including 17 active ones. That's a pretty good track record.

For a school with a total of 3 bowl wins, with 2 of them coming against Buffalo and Toledo, you guys sure talk a lot of smack about your program.
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, there are 35 bowls. In CUSA, UConn would have done the same thing. Are we supposed to be impressed by that? Lee Corso??!!? That's impressive to you? Who cares about rising high in the rankings? Where'd they finish? Yale was that high in the rankings as recently as the 1980s! USF was ranked #3 in the country.

UConn has 14 players in the NFL, by the way.

Cuse has a losing record against UConn
Pitt too!
Louisville is 2-4 the last 6 games!

I can only conclude that you're threatened!!!!
 
IthacaMatt said:
Nine straight bowls. Eleven overall. Twice ranked as high as #6 nationally in the 2000s. And before Schnellenberger, they were coached by Lee Corso. They've produced around 40 NFL players, including 17 active ones. That's a pretty good track record.

For a school with a total of 3 bowl wins, with 2 of them coming against Buffalo and Toledo, you guys sure talk a lot of smack about your program.
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You would be citing this same information on the cuse board to prove how much UL sucks.


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upstater said:
, there are 35 bowls. In CUSA, UConn would have done the same thing. Are we supposed to be impressed by that? Lee Corso??!!? That's impressive to you? Who cares about rising high in the rankings? Where'd they finish? Yale was that high in the rankings as recently as the 1980s! USF was ranked #3 in the country.

UConn has 14 players in the NFL, by the way.

Cuse has a losing record against UConn
Pitt too!
Louisville is 2-4 the last 6 games!

I can only conclude that you're threatened!!!!
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Hey, I'm responding to a guy above who says your two programs are a wash in football. And while that may be so if you look at the last 5 years, I've been telling you guys for a couple years now that in football, fans take the long view of a program. Heisman trophies, bowl games, big wins, players in the pros - not "who did you beat last year".

The fact of the matter is that although your hoops team under Calhoun has been great, Louisville did have the Denny Crum years, and has Pitino, and looks every bit as good as you guys do from an image perspective. Louisville is a TV draw. Their football program has some legitimate history; certainly more than you guys. You're going to end up somewhere, but the Big 10 might be the better fit for you than the ACC.
 
IthacaMatt said:
Hey, I'm responding to a guy above who says your two programs are a wash in football. And while that may be so if you look at the last 5 years, I've been telling you guys for a couple years now that in football, fans take the long view of a program. Heisman trophies, bowl games, big wins, players in the pros - not "who did you beat last year".

The fact of the matter is that although your hoops team under Calhoun has been great, Louisville did have the Denny Crum years, and has Pitino, and looks every bit as good as you guys do from an image perspective. Louisville is a TV draw. Their football program has some legitimate history; certainly more than you guys. You're going to end up somewhere, but the Big 10 might be the better fit for you than the ACC.
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Why is the big ten a better fit?
 
IthacaMatt said:
Hey, I'm responding to a guy above who says you're two programs are a wash in football. And while that may be so if you look at the last 5 years, I've been telling you guys for a couple years now that in football, fans take the long view of a program. Heisman trophies, bowl games, big wins, players in the pros - not "who did you beat last year". The fact of the matter is that although your hoops team under Calhoun has been great, Louisville did have the Denny Crum years, and has Pitino, and looks every bit as good as you guys do from an image perspective. Louisville is a TV draw. Their football program has some legitimate history; certainly more than you guys. You're going to end up somewhere, but the Big 10 might be the better fit for you than the ACC.
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Says the guy whose programs better days are over. no wonder you take that position. But most of the people in the stands were not around back then. Many of them grew up with UConn basketball being a top 5 program. UConn football is now 12 years in, give it another decade and the whole past thing will be forgotten, just like no one questions VTech's history.

Get out of here with your ridiculous Louiville bball claim. The record does not match up.

A TV draw? BS. Look at the ratings, ads, licensing money of the two programs. Not even close.
 
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upstater said:
Why? Because then Syracuse won't have to recruit against UConn in the country's best basketball conference.
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Oh I knew. Just wanted to see what they said. In addition, UConn has gotten football players that would have normally ended up at SU. They know what time it is.
 
upstater said:
Why? Because then Syracuse won't have to recruit against UConn in the country's best basketball conference.
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I'm sorry, while B10 basketball may not be as sexy, but I'm not so sure which conference would be the better basketball conference.

Duke/UNC/NCState/Cuse versus Indiana/MSU/Michigan/Maryland are pretty even top 4's with a slight lead for the ACC

Pitt/ND/FSU/Va. Tech vs OSU/Purdue/Illinois/Wisconsin is fairly even, slight nod to the Big Ten (maybe bigger than slight).

Wake Forest/Georgia Tech/Clemson/Miami/UVA/BC vs. Northwestern/Minnesota/Iowa/Nebraska/PSU/Rutgers all suck and don't matter really.

If UL goes ACC and UConn goes Big Ten then the balance remains, with maybe a very tiny lead to the ACC. If UL goes Big12 and UConn goes Big Ten then Big Ten is a better basketball conference IMO. If both UL and UConn go ACC, then that is the best basketball conference, hands down.

BTW great weekend for UL:
  1. Lose to UConn (check)
  2. Lose to Duke (check)
 
IthacaMatt said:
Hey, I'm responding to a guy above who says your two programs are a wash in football. And while that may be so if you look at the last 5 years, I've been telling you guys for a couple years now that in football, fans take the long view of a program. Heisman trophies, bowl games, big wins, players in the pros - not "who did you beat last year".

The fact of the matter is that although your hoops team under Calhoun has been great, Louisville did have the Denny Crum years, and has Pitino, and looks every bit as good as you guys do from an image perspective. Louisville is a TV draw. Their football program has some legitimate history; certainly more than you guys. You're going to end up somewhere, but the Big 10 might be the better fit for you than the ACC.
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I love how the "long view perspective" only works with football (knowing full well that we haven't even been at the BCS level for 15 years). Yet Louisville basketball looks "every bit as good" as UConn in the image department. Nevermind UConn's success has been outrageously more prolific than Louisville's (or any other Big East program's) for the past 25 years.

I suppose this is what you meant by a good image?
 
Gurleyman said:
Who won the last head-to-head matchup? They have a nice history from the 1920's and the Gipper and all, but what have they done lately?

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I imagine going to the national championship this year counts as doing something lately. I didn't say anything about which team won a game three years ago, I was talking about being a national brand. Everyone knows who the Irish are, and they have pockets of fans across the country. Honestly Notre Dame would probably draw a bigger audience in NYC than Rutgers.
 
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