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Another Shoe drops in the North Carolina Fiasco

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Yes, the scandal at PSU was an outrage. Now would someone please explain what this has to do in any way, shape or form with the outrageous scandal at UNC? Does it really matter whether one is worse than the other? Does the behavior of the involved individuals at PSU in any way affect the culpability of the involved individuals at UNC? If so, how? And if not, why in the name of common sense do people insist on dragging the PSU case into a thread about UNC? Really, what is the point?
 
msf22b said:
Like Watergate, almost every day, drip, drip, drip.

Soon, very soon, the administration will be forced out of its hole.

Some supervising agency: the Governor a legislator, The US Senate or House, FBI, State Police, an ambitious prosecutor, member of the board, Accrediting organizations, even the timid and broken NCAA…someone will demand answers and later scalps.

And the longer the Admin stonewalls, the worse it will be.
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Maybe Duke could volunteer to conduct the investigation for UNC.
 
UcMiami said:
Interesting that the linked article is from the Daily Tar Heel - most of the stories and comments thereon from the DTH I have read are more defensive - this one is pretty blunt in its implications and the responses are all VERY sharply worded.
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Right on all counts. Some of the comments are very enlightening. This is my favorite;

There is an email in Wainstein's supplemental attachment from Boxill telling an athlete that she's going to put him/her, mid semester, into 2 "independent classes" because that athlete does not have enough hours to qualify for a Pell Grant. Losing her job at UNC is the LEAST of her worries. She needs to lawyer up, fast, in order to stay out of federal prison.

It should also be incredibly obvious to everyone that way more departments than AFAM were involved in this.

This is going to get more ungood before it gets dis-ungood.
 
The dam is collapsing faster than I had anticipated.

I still suspect that the only way to "contain" the firestorm is for UNC to issue an honest and more complete mea culpa,
together with a bunch of firings; faculty and coaches, give back a bunch of trophies, take down the flags
and cancel football and basketball this season (mens and woman's).

They also have to pledge complete transparency in rooting out all of the other departments that were involved.

They probably have until Monday to do this.

If they continue their arrogant ways, then the president is toast as well and will stand implicated (she certainly already is).
She may be uncertain as to the proper(?) path to take..(post above), but she can no more feign innocence.

This coverup is untangling…In my previous post, I omitted ambitious journalists as a potential source of threat to the conspirators.

It looks like a student/reporter is the local equivalent to Woodward / Bernstein

What a mess.
 
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msf22b said:
University of Louisville hires top campus lawyer from UNC-Chapel Hill

Was their principal attorney during the years the cheating took place.
Looks like the Cards want to get in on the fun.
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I saw that - her claim to fame re the scandal was denying freedom of information requests and then defending those denials in court (where she lost.) I don't think she likely had any idea about the classes, and I am not sure blame really attaches to her role in the cover-up since that is her 'job'. But I am sure she is happy to get out of the fire!
 
DaddyChoc said:
I think she knew the deal and didnt wanna be a part of it... post-season bans etc.
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vowelguy said:
I highly doubt that had anything to do with it.
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Goodgood said:
She was following Tia Cooper to UNC. When Cooper de-committed from UNC, she was bummed out and waited for Cooper to commit to UT, then xfer out of UNC and followed her to UT.

Academics had nothing to do with it.
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interesting observations at this time
 
UcMiami said:
Oh yes! I don't think any judge is going to toss a lawsuit like this again at least prior to discovery. UNC and the NCAA got some 'splaining to do!
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And now they must do their 'splaining under oath. Nothing like the power of subpoenas to encourage miscreants at all levels to "fess up."

This massive and sustained academic fraud is disgusting. The McAdoo lawsuit maybe the first of many -- think about thousands of graduates whose degrees may lose their former prestige once UNC's very accreditation is undermined by this scandal.
 
Zorro said:
Yes, the scandal at PSU was an outrage. Now would someone please explain what this has to do in any way, shape or form with the outrageous scandal at UNC? Does it really matter whether one is worse than the other? Does the behavior of the involved individuals at PSU in any way affect the culpability of the involved individuals at UNC? If so, how? And if not, why in the name of common sense do people insist on dragging the PSU case into a thread about UNC? Really, what is the point?
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Because academics the situation at UNC is something the NCAA is, actually, supposed to insure is managed for the student athletes and competitive fairness.
 
Icebear said:
Because academics the situation at UNC is something the NCAA is, actually, supposed to insure is managed for the student athletes and competitive fairness.
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The NCAA is probably too busy checking the air pressure of footballs to be concerned about some triviality like academics.
 
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tennparker3 said:
Diamond wanted to leave before last season started and was begged to stay. She wanted to come to Tennessee for a long time but Pat stepping down threw her off kilter with her decision. She has mentioned this a few times in interviews.

She was recently name student athlete of the month so she is proving to be a great student. She mentioned once how much she still had to figure out as far as balancing everything when she got to Tennessee. Apparently it wasn't as challenging at UNC.
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I've always been suspicious of programs that brag about 100% graduation rates for their athletes, particularly at schools that are not known as being academically rigorous, and, where sports is an exceptionally important factor in the school's reputation.
 
Bestiarius said:
I've always been suspicious of programs that brag about 100% graduation rates for their athletes, particularly at schools that are not known as being academically rigorous, and, where sports is an exceptionally important factor in the school's reputation.
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Shocked!.jpg
 
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Are you implying that Bubba ain't, Michael?
 
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