And here we go....

[MilliniumPrince]

Prediction: 10 years from now the sky will still be up high, and folks will be onto something new that will ruin everything.

 

[metsfan2323]

Prediction: 10 years from now the sky will still be up high, and folks will be onto something new that will ruin everything.

Where will UCONN sports be? We'll love the new system if we thrive and hate it if we dive.

 

[billybud]

Chin...don't get your shorts twisted because I am adding a lot more detail to a subject you commented on earlier...you got a freekin' copywrite that I violated?

A lot more will be coming out in the next months...

 

[Chin Diesel]

I'd guess Texas is going to be the most beneficial school. The amount of booster money that school has is obnoxious.

I'm looking at smaller schools with deep pockets like SMU or Tulane. Some of this old money at schools with stout endowments and small student populations are going to become players again.
Ivies could run college sports if their alumni wanted to play this game.

 

[nelsonmuntz]

And...non revenue sports may not mean non revenue for the athletes...

The most followed athlete is a female LSU gymnaist...with 5,000,000 followers.

Given how social media platforms play out, I would expect female athletes to do very well in the new environment.

 

[Exit 4]

Yes, since they require that athletes not be compensated for their play.

Lol, should be easy for the NCAA to collect contracts? No, it would be anything but easy given the volume. Regardless, why would anyone imagine that NCAA would be able to handle this issue efficiently, timely and even handedly when their history on hardship transfers has been anything but?

So looking backwards, you must have been entirely paranoid about the integrity of NCAA athletics your entire life given the kids were not officially paid as well. Surely they have had plenty of incentive to "throw the game" in such an environment??

And so the NCAA which somehow oversees the transfer portal and 11,050 scholarship FBS football players alone (130 X 85), won't be able to build a portal site for players to upload and disclose their compensation contracts? The NCAA is a favorite punching bag for sure, but its not as if they can't function at all....and if not the NCAA, some body some where will be stepping up at some point.

There will be an evolution ahead with twists and turns.

 

[billybud]

Miami is currently #78 in Rivals Class Rankings (football)....Way behind FSU and Florida. And I can't see the addition of $6000 per year by a Golden Cane booster's company as anything but an enticement for recruits...sure $6000 isn't much, but to a kid without a lot of family support, it will get attention.

By the end of this recruiting cycle, I see Miami rising 60 plus places.

 

[CL82]

So looking backwards, you must have been entirely paranoid about the integrity of NCAA athletics your entire life given the kids were not officially paid as well

 

[uconndogs]

$6,000 a year....

How about $60,000 a year over 85 scholarships? That's a cool $5.1 million a year so you would probably need about $100 million to "endow" that. Is that out of the question for some programs? I don't think so.

Then for the 5* recruit throw in some real enhancements and folks can really make some coin.

Think about the discrepancies that will arise between players. The 5* getting big dollars and their teammate scraping by. Should make for some interesting dynamics.

The leadership at these universities and the administrators have nobody to blame but themselves for this. It's gong to be an absolute free for all. I don't begrudge the kids the money for a moment, but many of them will not be ready to handle this and what the sharks will do with some of them makes me shutter.

 

[Exit 4]

There has always been the possibility that the integrity of any given game was corrupted in our world pre 7/1/21. And that possibility will continue. Its a possibility in all sports, even the most obscure.

 

[RSTuthill]

I just have the feeling that no good can come from this. Just intuition really. Willing to be convinced otherwise.

I do have a couple questions.

The SA does not need to be on scholarship to conclude commercial deals, right? So walk-ons can get access too?

What rules govern D2 and D3 now? Any?

 

[WestCoastHusky]

I just have the feeling that no good can come from this. Just intuition really. Willing to be convinced otherwise.

I do have a couple questions.

The SA does not need to be on scholarship to conclude commercial deals, right? So walk-ons can get access too?

What rules govern D2 and D3 now? Any?

I think NIL applies to all college athletes regardless D1, D2, or D3? Please correct me if I am wrong.

Also, I can see this might create some serious resentment etc. On teams where many grunts (OL, people who play D or rebound on bball teams etc.) will have some major resentments if star players get all the endorsement and NIL deals etc. In many sports, you can always manufacture stars if you give that person all the opportunities in the world. If you let one person shoot 30 times a game vs only 5 for others, it is easy to promote the person who can score more to be a superstar even though that same person might not play much defense. This could turn into a nightmare for many coaches.

 

[huskymedic]

I think NIL applies to all college athletes regardless D1, D2, or D3? Please correct me if I am wrong.

You are correct - All NCAA, NAIA and NJCAA athletes included.

 

[freescooter]

Actually there are a few possible outcomes.
1. everything goes to hell
2. College sports at the D1 level become de facto minor pro leagues and players earn comparable salaries. I suspect the whole system crashes as fans stay away in droves. In the current market Alabama has to threaten students to keep them at games. What happens when they are more Nike Crimson tide than Alabama Crimson Tide?
3. This is a passing fantasy. Remember when traffic was backed up to Hartford when that donut place opened on the Berlin Tunpike? Now that place is a dentist or some such thing. It is a real pissibility that in 2 or 5 years companies figure out that these are generally bad investments of their marketing dollars. So they spend differently.
4. Nike et al buy a few teams with the highest market potential and they form a national league. Everyone else goes back to essentially what goes on now but more like 1aa.

 

[Exit 4]

I heard a radical idea and it probably will gain momentum and that is for a class action against the ncaa for the past. No way to possibly settle such a suit without bankrupting the schools because if it goes to trial. If that scenario plays out then the system gets dismantled with more losers than winners.

 

[billybud]

Actually there are a few possible outcomes.
1. everything goes to hell
2. College sports at the D1 level become de facto minor pro leagues and players earn comparable salaries. I suspect the whole system crashes as fans stay away in droves. In the current market Alabama has to threaten students to keep them at games. What happens when they are more Nike Crimson tide than Alabama Crimson Tide?
3. This is a passing fantasy. Remember when traffic was backed up to Hartford when that donut place opened on the Berlin Tunpike? Now that place is a dentist or some such thing. It is a real pissibility that in 2 or 5 years companies figure out that these are generally bad investments of their marketing dollars. So they spend differently.
4. Nike et al buy a few teams with the highest market potential and they form a national league. Everyone else goes back to essentially what goes on now but more like 1aa.

This is the same Alabama that had 42,000 at the spring scrimmage this year....and averaged 101,000 in the stands in 2019...before the covid years.

 

[AD DB Burner]

Perks of being a projected top 10 pick at Nike U

 

[Nostical]

If this newly transparent version of "follow the money" is where it's all headed, we need to make our own splash in the recruiting sweepstakes. It would behoove corporations and businesses in the state to start offering UConn athletes some big time personal service contracts.

 

[traitor71]

Miami is currently #78 in Rivals Class Rankings (football)....Way behind FSU and Florida. And I can't see the addition of $6000 per year by a Golden Cane booster's company as anything but an enticement for recruits...sure $6000 isn't much, but to a kid without a lot of family support, it will get attention.

By the end of this recruiting cycle, I see Miami rising 60 plus places.

They are going to rise in those rankings anyway once a bunch of kids decide. They have been doing pretty well recruiting and I don't think this will be a giant game changer for them. Not once we start seeing what may happen in other places anyway. I'm just wondering what some of the craziest deals will end up being, because you know there is giant money just waiting to come out into the open.

 

[huskymedic]

I have followed Infante for years for his NCAA Compliance background - interesting perspective:

 

[Jimdish255]

If they started 25 years ago arranging for weekend stipends, family travel, and deferred compensation contingent on 4 years of participation with graduation within 5 years this brave new world could have been delayed for quite some time. They were wrong when they came down hard on Jeremy Bloom (Colorado) for skiing endorsements unrelated to football, and have been pretending they could just maintain the status quo since. The smartest guys in the room turned out to be a bunch of out of touch dinosaurs.

 

[noeynox]

If they started 25 years ago arranging for weekend stipends, family travel, and deferred compensation contingent on 4 years of participation with graduation within 5 years this brave new world could have been delayed for quite some time. They were wrong when they came down hard on Jeremy Bloom (Colorado) for skiing endorsements unrelated to football, and have been pretending they could just maintain the status quo since. The smartest guys in the room turned out to be a bunch of out of touch dinosaurs.

Agree. The whole horse and pony show of amateurism, as coaches, administrators made millions off the products on the fields/courts was a house of cards all along. Everyone involved knew it and continued whistling past the graveyard until outside intervention had to happen.

 

[metsfan2323]

The gym owner in Miami is basically starting a Miami football SuperPAC.

From the article on ESPN,

"Lambert has also started a corporation, called Bring Back The U, that will be solely focused on putting money in the pockets of Miami football players. He said the company will attempt to rally support from local businesses to hire the players as spokesmen. He says he also plans to host fundraising events and then donate the proceeds to any local business that agrees to use the donation to pay for Miami players as spokesmen"

Who is going to be UCONN's guy? Big opportunity for someone to make a name for himself. We need a wealthy UCONN football fan with entrepreneurial spirit, or maybe you just need entrepreneurial spirit and time to engage in fundraising activities.,

 

[BlueDogs]

The corruption from this is going to be astounding. Criminal influence will also find its way to the table. How we fail to recognize the past and learn it is just unreal. Such a shame.

 

[billybud]

Miami's Yachthookergate scandal with Shapiro shows that they were forwatd thinking...in tune with the current times

Shapiro said he gave money, cars, yacht trips, jewelry, televisions and other gifts to a list of players including Vince Wilfork, Jon Beason, Antrel Rolle, Devin Hester, Willis McGahee and the late Sean Taylor of the Washington Redskins.

When Shapiro was sentenced, the U.S. Attorney's Office said he "used investor funds to make payments to dozens of student athletes who were attending a local university in the Miami area to which Shapiro made significant donations ... cash in amounts up to $10,000 and gifts such as jewelry and entertainment at nightclubs and restaurants in Miami Beach. As a result of a 10-year gift to the university, its Student-Athlete Lounge was named for Shapiro."