An offer is in

[HuskyBoi]

We should look at David Fizdale.

 

[whaler11]

That's not accurate. The story of the EC Matthews recruitment says otherwise. Danny sold him on URI, the program and it's family atmosphere.

Can Dan Hurley Coach the URI Rams all the Way to March Madness? - Page 3 of 3 - Rhode Island Monthly

I'm sure he did the same with at least some of the others. Where are you getting your information?

Do you really want an answer to that question?

 

[intlzncster]

It is a fact that Bobby recruited the senior starters on this team and those kids play a huge part of the success of this team

Again, where are you getting your facts? I've provided a link that shows this to be incorrect for the EC Matthews recruitment: Can Dan Hurley Coach the URI Rams all the Way to March Madness? - Page 3 of 3 - Rhode Island Monthly

My God some folks are so protective of this guy and any doubts or criticism is met with a "how dare you"

if he is the best candidate - bring him on - I just want UConn to do their best due diligence in selecting the next coach and not have a knee jerk reaction -

There's no 'how dare you'. It's simply recognizing when 1 guy has a better track record than another, if only because he's had more time. I think it's fair to say Oat's is pretty green, and I'm not sure UCONN can take that risk right now if it doesn't have to.

For the record, I just want the best available candidate we can find. And I want them to do their due diligence as well. I find Hurley's track record to be the top of the candidates available. I don't know if he'll be the best in the end.

But given Oat's brief history, what I've seen of him--and that's only three games--and personality, I would not be disappointed to land him.

Some of it is also being able to land your first candidate, assuming identified a good one. Imagine UCONN having to settle for 3rd or 4th option?

 

[Uconnfanatic]

That's the whole point though. Oats is a really good coach. But he still has another step to go with getting a URI level job before he can be on the same level as Hurley. A few years from now he may be getting the same interest as Hurley is this year

Sometimes the better coach is at the lower level school.

URI have the 29th ranked class in the country, with recruit #s 70, 171, 207 & 243. Buffalo have the 66th ranked class in the country with recruit #s 142, 235 and unranked.

Honest to god, dude, just take the L.

I don't think he's going anywhere this year anyway tbh. With his family situation, the commitment he and the Uni just made to the each other, and the fact he's got a great team coming back next year. He's got the kind of confidence to bet on himself, so I don't think he's worried about this being his shot.

You could be right but a a big jump in compensation along with the chance to coach at a major program like UConn could convince him otherwise. We won't know unless we try.

 

[Walker11]

Again, where are you getting your facts? I've provided a link that shows this to be incorrect for the EC Matthews recruitment: Can Dan Hurley Coach the URI Rams all the Way to March Madness? - Page 3 of 3 - Rhode Island Monthly



There's no 'how dare you'. It's simply recognizing when 1 guy has a better track record than another, if only because he's had more time. I think it's fair to say Oat's is pretty green, and I'm not sure UCONN can take that risk right now if it doesn't have to.

For the record, I just want the best available candidate we can find. And I want them to do their due diligence as well. I find Hurley's track record to be the top of the candidates available. I don't know if he'll be the best in the end.

But given Oat's brief history, what I've seen of him--and that's only three games--and personality, I would not be disappointed to land him.

Some of it is also being able to land your first candidate, assuming identified a good one. Imagine UCONN having to settle for 3rd or 4th option?

You are wasting too much brainpower on an non-serious poster.

 

[tzznandrew]

Sometimes the better coach is at the lower level school.



You could be right but a a big jump in compensation along with the chance to coach at a major program like UConn could convince him otherwise. We won't know unless we try.

But why try when there is an objectively better candidate (note "candidate" not "coach") available? When there's a candidate that has actually done what we need done here, rather than inheriting a good team and maintaining it?

 

[Rewster]

gtcam
Are you saying that Bobby was responsible for the 2015 class.

 

[gtcam]

Can you back up this claim that the Sr. starters came to URI solely because of Bobby? Did it detract from JC's recruiting when Moore or Hobbs or KO ran point on a recruitment?

I heard it on Sirrius XM college basketball talk show that was discussing URI, Pitt, UConn etc and looked it up at work and found the statement verifying it online - I will see if I can find it again. I don't make things up - I verified what I heard - I just can't remember where I saw it. I said Bobby recruited them but that doesn't mean that Dan Hurley didn't have anything to do with selling the university
I am not trying to downplay Dan Hurley - just relaying what I heard and saw
I said that the guy can coach
I'll keep looking because I saw it in black and white after I heard it

 

[gtcam]

gtcam
Are you saying that Bobby was responsible for the 2015 class.

I guess according to many, I'm not saying anything
Lets leave it at that
I'm on to other things - like UConn baseball - tis the season

 

[Uconnfanatic]

We can go to Vegas, then.

Remember, that doesn't mean that I'm sure I'm right, or that I don't like Oats. But to look at both of their resumes, and the situations of the teams they inherited, and not see a difference in them, or what they might offer given UConn's current state, strikes me as willful ignorance.

There are other things to look at besides the resume and experience. Interviews can reveal a lot. He's an impressive young coach. I don't think choosing Oats over Hurley is like going to Vegas. It may upset those on this board who are 100% in on Hurley. I would just prefer that DB have them both in before making a decision and not just jump on Hurley. UConn has a history of going with guys that have some connection to our program. It hasn't always worked out so well. Sure, Danny played for Blaney & has Tom Moore on his bench. That makes him an easy choice but not necessarily the best choice. I'm not saying he's not the better choice. I'm saying I'd rather they have Oats in, take a closer look and then make the decision. If it's Hurley that's fine but they might find out they like Oats better. Makes sense to me to be more thorough and not just go with the obvious choice.

 

[tzznandrew]

There are other things to look at besides the resume and experience. Interviews can reveal a lot. He's an impressive young coach.

That's fair.

But let's be clear: if Benedict hasn't been kicking the tires for a while now, he deserves to be fired. If we come out and hire Hurley mid-week or something, it won't be because we didn't investigate other options.

 

[tcf15]

 

[tcf15]

 

[tzznandrew]

Hmm. Conspicuous absence. I wonder why...could it be that a P5 school thinks it's too good for Hurley?

 

[husky429]

I like Hurley but Oats looks like the kind of young coach that could bring some real excitement back to the program. I don't why we get locked in on one guy like we do. I wish DB would at least brings Oats to Storrs for an interview. I suspect if he did, I suspect it would be clear that this guy brings a different level of confidence and enthusiasm and would be the obvious choice. I'm sure Hurley will do fine but I think this guy has a higher ceiling and could have us back at that elite level contending for championships every year. If it's not at UConn, he'll be doing at some other major program and we'll be regretting that we didn't make him our number one target.

1 amazing game < rebuilding 3 programs from nearly scratch, having recruiting connections, 10 years as a head coach

 

[intlzncster]

There are other things to look at besides the resume and experience. Interviews can reveal a lot. He's an impressive young coach. I don't think choosing Oats over Hurley is like going to Vegas. It may upset those on this board who are 100% in on Hurley. I would just prefer that DB have them both in before making a decision and not just jump on Hurley. UConn has a history of going with guys that have some connection to our program. It hasn't always worked out so well. Sure, Danny played for Blaney & has Tom Moore on his bench. That makes him an easy choice but not necessarily the best choice. I'm not saying he's not the better choice. I'm saying I'd rather they have Oats in, take a closer look and then make the decision. If it's Hurley that's fine but they might find out they like Oats better. Makes sense to me to be more thorough and not just go with the obvious choice.

This is a reasonable course of action. I'm not sure our AD is this type of guy though. Which is one of the reasons I want to land a guy like Hurley.

Quite frankly, I don't want DB !@#$ing it up.

 

[Uconnfanatic]

That's fair.

But let's be clear: if Benedict hasn't been kicking the tires for a while now, he deserves to be fired. If we come out and hire Hurley mid-week or something, it won't be because we didn't investigate other options.

I bet he has not looked at Oats closely. Bring him in for an interview. I'm sure he's done his due diligence on Hurley. Do the same with Oats. He's newer on the radar for sure.

 

[tzznandrew]

I bet he has not looked at Oats closely. Bring him in for an interview. I'm sure he's done his due diligence on Hurley. Do the same with Oats. He's newer on the radar for sure.

If he wasn't on the radar before one game in the NCAAT, he shouldn't be on it now. Too reactionary.

 

[intlzncster]

I've a sneaky suspicion how this is going to go down. We land Hurley. Pitt lands Oats. Hurley is middling. Oats goes on to a HOF career. We've used up all our karma from 1990-2014.

 

[intlzncster]

In fact, I no longer want Hurley. All in on OATS!

 

[Uconnfanatic]

If he wasn't on the radar before one game in the NCAAT, he shouldn't be on it now. Too reactionary.

That's a silly comment. Lots of times the best candidate pops up late in the process. The tournament has put him on the radar screen. Many a coach has gone from an unknown to a much sought after coach based on the tournament exposure. This is far from an exact science.

 

[whaler11]

In fact, I no longer want Hurley. All in on OATS!

Since people keep positing it as Oak’s - lets’s go with O’Aks today.

 

[whaler11]

Buffalo beat a team of mercenaries from a terrible conference in the midst of an FBI investigation.

Arizona has a couple of wildly talented players - they aren’t a good team.

 

[Uconnfanatic]

I've a sneaky suspicion how this is going to go down. We land Hurley. Pitt lands Oats. Hurley is middling. Oats goes on to a HOF career. We've used up all our karma from 1990-2014.

I've a sneaky suspicion how this is going to go down. We land Hurley. Pitt lands Oats. Hurley is middling. Oats goes on to a HOF career. We've used up all our karma from 1990-2014.

I doubt that Pitt will hire Oats but I do think there is a good chance that he will have the better career. I hope I am wrong because I'm guessing Hurley is already a done deal.

 

[Da_Aisijimo_Gou]

Feels like a Clyde Vaughn situation where he was responsible for recruiting/developing a decade of big men despite being here for only 2 years.

Quite frankly, are you really trying to bogart 3rd person typer's joints?

 

[djct1999]

In fact, I no longer want Hurley. All in on OATS!

Different programs make different kind of hires. BC hires Steve Donahue. Indiana hires Archie Miller. Oats is the former type, Hurley falls in the latter. For all you pro-Oats guys, it speaks volumes on how you view this program. If Oats is the guy we land, KO did more damage to the brand than even the most negative imagined.

 

[djct1999]

Until you are at a high major, that's tough to prove. But he has some nice players coming in.

Hurley has the natural trajectory of a coach that eliminates most risk. Oats is a total flip of the coin. Any sensible AD would not take that chance with the pedigree of UConn and the importance of this hire.

 

[tzznandrew]

That's a silly comment. Lots of times the best candidate pops up late in the process. The tournament has put him on the radar screen. Many a coach has gone from an unknown to a much sought after coach based on the tournament exposure. This is far from an exact science.

I'd like to see one that has proven successful taking over a major program by bursting onto the scene in the NCAAT. Andy Enfield is as close as you'll get, I think, and it's not been all that great so far.

Sorry: jumping at Oats after a win or two in the NCAAT is the definition of desperation.

 

[intlzncster]

Different programs make different kind of hires. BC hires Steve Donahue. Indiana hires Archie Miller. Oats is the former type, Hurley falls in the latter. For all you pro-Oats guys, it speaks volumes on how you view this program. If Oats is the guy we land, KO did more damage to the brand than even the most negative imagined.

You do know I was joking. Did you see my tongue-in-cheek post right above that one?

 

[Uconnfanatic]

Different programs make different kind of hires. BC hires Steve Donahue. Indiana hires Archie Miller. Oats is the former type, Hurley falls in the latter. For all you pro-Oats guys, it speaks volumes on how you view this program. If Oats is the guy we land, KO did more damage to the brand than even the most negative imagined.

This has nothing to do with how I perceive UConn and its ability to attract candidates. In fact, I think a lot of coaches would jump at the chance to return UConn to its former prominence. We are only 4 yrs removed from a national championship and have top notch facilities. I just think Oats will turn out to be the better coach.