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I have enough problem finding my keys and my coffee i layed down somewhere, then trying to figure out who is Caroline Doty,CD2,Crystal Dangerfield or Caroline Ducharme abbreviated!!
 
caramel said:
I have enough problem finding my keys and my coffee i layed down somewhere, then trying to figure out who is Caroline Doty,CD2,Crystal Dangerfield or Caroline Ducharme abbreviated!!
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Actually C D= Chris Dailey, C D 2 is Caroline Doty, C D 3=Crystal Dangerfield,, and C D 4= Caroline Ducharme. Just For your information (FYI).

Actually trying to type this I discovered that apparently somewhere there now is a translater that changes the last 2 of these to the full name when typed. Boy would that eliminate all the issues!
 
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I know a lot of the abbreviations, going to be 76, but as @veryolddog points out, there are a lot I have no idea what they are saying.
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I completely understand your position. My take on this is if you are going to take the time to compose a comment, take an extra moment or two to spell out the names of people referenced in your post. You want everyone that reads your post to completely understand the point you are trying to make. I agree with veryolddog in that we should not assume that others know who or what you're referring to when you use initials.

I read a post here a few months back that referred to players on another team. The poster used initials in reference to the players. I had no idea who the poster was referring to. He/she missed me because I lost interest in the comment because I didn't know who was being referred to.

I’m conscious of not using initials or abbreviations in my posts, and pledge to remain vigilant in that regard.

I want readers to be able to completely understand my comments whether they agree with them or not. We must remember that we are getting new people to the vineyard everyday. I want them to be able to understand my comment. They will if I don't use initials or abreviations.

Veryolddog, I for one will try to comply with your request. It's not an unreasonable one. I’m not quite as old as you, but I’m in the neighborhood. I feel you. :) And an early happy 80th birthday greeting to you.
 
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Zinethar said:
As a decidedly older dog I tend to type on a computer rather than a phone because I take forever on those things and it tends to change my beautifully crafted words to something entirely different. I'm guilty of using abbreviation for players names because I generally have no idea how to spell some of them and get called out here when I (or my phone correction) type it wrong. I'll do my best.
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Zinethar, you’ve got a witness. I type 80% of my comments on my phone as I’m doing now. I have “Grammarly” installed on my phone. It changes words I type more often than I like. I could remove it, but it does come in handy as I was not an English major in college. I’m extremely careful now to carefully proof read my comments before I press send.
 
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This one's easy for me. A person older than me who has served out country and probably thought long and hard about making this post asks something that is rather benign. Out of respect for a veryolddog, I will go along with this happily. BTW - thank you for your service.
 
This has come up in the past... My response ...
My only suggestion would be to print the initials list Nan provided at the beginning of the season.
The narrative has changed, from Nan people are wasting more time typing out their reasons for using initials than it would take to just type out the name.
Not attacking anyone here but the times have changed too fast. Communication technology and social media has far surpassed the education provided to those who grew up in the days of manual typewriters. ( I being one )

@veryolddog You got it from me at least first or last names from here on out. Thank you for your service to our country and may you enjoy many more UConn games / victories.
 
caramel said:
I have enough problem finding my keys and my coffee i layed down somewhere, then trying to figure out who is Caroline Doty,CD2,Crystal Dangerfield or Caroline Ducharme abbreviated!!
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If they’re talking about the current team it’s a fair bet it’s Caroline DuCharme.

You’re welcome.
 
I have no problem trying. I actually use only 2 commonly - DT and CD (the Rutgers grad). It is because - and I hate admitting this - but I don't offhand necessarily spell their last names correctly and the initials seemed in common use - but, like the many others that I don't abbreviate, I can look it up each time.
 
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veryolddog said:
Look,....I am 79 and going to be 80 in a few months. A lot of folks in my age group especially me do not understand the abreviations, initials of players names, the special initials of expressions, nor can I remember all of this from thread to thread. My gereration, during and post WWII, remembers the 50's, 60's and 70's music, events, and players of the time. We are just not up on our knowledge of celebreties, and special arrangement of letters. Frankly, as an illustration, Frank Sinatra was the greatest singer of all time in my opinion.

I would greatly appreciate it if you would say what you mean in plain English, in your introductions of the post and in the first paragraph of the post. I would also appreciate that if you are going to use an initial that you spell it out and place the initial after the spell out for both a name and an expression. Do not ASSume that others know what you are talking about with your use of an abbreviation. I would also appreciate that that the monitors would endorse this request.

A short story: I spent 2 consecutie years in Viet Nam. No tv, no newspapers, no outside information except for a letter from a dear one. I was in the demilitarized zone (DMZ) just short of the North Viet Nam border. When I returned to the United States of America (USA), I could not believe the changes and new information that had taken place. Everything was new. That is how your generational conversations and abbreviations seem to me and others like me.

thanks for your help.
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Sorry but will all due respect, do you not think you should then take your on advice?? WWII, TV?? what do you mean by ASSume??? Also Viet Nam does not exist.

I think you are probably a very intelligent person who could, inside 3 minutes learn all the abbreviations and nicknames. How do you keep what Geno when he constantly refers to D, CD, E, Lou, J, Liv, among many others?

You could keep a little cheat sheet also, but I suspect after 5 minutes, you will not need it anymore. I do that sometimes as well, not on this board but elsewhere. I can make one for you as well but it might be interesting for you to know the nicknames and abbreviations. For example, a few years ago, it took me a few seconds to figure out who E and a bit longer on who J was when Geno was giving an interview. But I was happy to figure it out...

Also and most importantly, thank you for your service and happy early 80th birthday.
 
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CL82 said:
Yes. It can be problematic when different players in different sports have the same initials though.
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Then don't use initial.
 
OK (is that an abbreviation?), I had to google it.

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My naming convention always has been as follows. I use the full last names in most cases. I use last names to treat the players as athletes in traditional fashion, Mantle not Mickey, etc.

The exceptions occur with hyphenated names, where I will use acronyms like ONO or KML.
 
jazz said:
I think you are probably a very intelligent person who could, inside 3 minutes learn all the abbreviations and nicknames. How do you keep what Geno when he constantly refers to D, CD, E, Lou, J, Liv, among many others?

You could keep a little cheat sheet also, but I suspect after 5 minutes, you will not need it anymore. I do that sometimes as well, not on this board but elsewhere. I can make one for you as well but it might be interesting for you to know the nicknames and abbreviations. For example, a few years ago, it took me a few seconds to figure out who E and a bit longer on who J was when Geno was giving an interview. But I was happy to figure it out...
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I am guessing that you’re nowhere near 80 or even 60 if you can make those statements. As you age, your brain slows down and it’s not unusual to struggle to remember names or common words. The ability to learn decreases with age, too. See this link. Memory Problems: What is Normal Aging and What is Not?

How about ratcheting back the snark and make an attempt to understand @veryolddog ’s problem? How about a little compassion, too? I’d get angrier with your apparent lack of concern for people except that you will find out exactly what I’m talking about some day and I take no joy in it. It’s mortifying to scramble to remember friends’ names or the name of a restaurant we went to just last week. Having people tell us to just spend 3 minutes to memorize facts is rather cold.
 
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Centerstream said:
I understand where you are coming from @veryolddog but the use of non words, IMO, is due to the popularity of texting. It appears that when texting, people say as much as they can using as few letters as possible, possibly due to data charges (in the olde days). But here on the Boneyard, there doesn't seem to be a character limit on posts, so that should not be a reason to use abbreviations, made up "names" and so on. And if there is a limit and your post reaches it, you probably should have stopped typing 5 minutes ago.
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is there a way for the site to auto convert the acronyms to names?
 
Stinger92860 said:
is there a way for the site to auto convert the acronyms to names?
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Yes, but it would affect all boards and there may be men’s basketball or football players with the same initials.
 
This post made me think a bit about how I used to communicate vs the rest of my friends and family. I worked at GE for 20 yrs and man, did we have acronyms. Then came company wide instant messaging, which created more acronyms. It took me a few years to stop talking and writing in corp-speak, so now I have to look up quite a few abbreviations as I have no clue.

For some players, first name works as they are unique - Swin, Shea, Svet, Diana, etc. Others, I'll start using last names.
 
BRS24 said:
This post made me think a bit about how I used to communicate vs the rest of my friends and family. I worked at GE for 20 yrs and man, did we have acronyms. Then came company wide instant messaging, which created more acronyms. It took me a few years to stop talking and writing in corp-speak, so now I have to look up quite a few abbreviations as I have no clue.

For some players, first name works as they are unique - Swin, Shea, Svet, Diana, etc. Others, I'll start using last names.
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I can relate on the acronyms. I work in telecommunications and data networking. You get so used to talking that language that you forget that the people you're speaking to may not have a clue as to what you mean. I have to work hard when dealing with clients to avoid doing that too much.
 
BRS24 said:
This post made me think a bit about how I used to communicate vs the rest of my friends and family. I worked at GE for 20 yrs and man, did we have acronyms. Then came company wide instant messaging, which created more acronyms. It took me a few years to stop talking and writing in corp-speak, so now I have to look up quite a few abbreviations as I have no clue.

For some players, first name works as they are unique - Swin, Shea, Svet, Diana, etc. Others, I'll start using last names.
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Thanks BRS24. When communicating with other co-workers, using "shop speak" internally is acceptable. Everyone that you're communicating with understands ALL of the initials, acronyms and abbreviations you would use. That's different than what we have going here in the yard. You have fans (outsiders) from other teams visiting everyday. We have fans from other programs that post here more than they do on their own boards. There is a reason for that.

You always have new people visiting, lurking or perhaps giving the Boneyard a "test drive." Particularly to "mature" visitors, abbreviations or initials may be a bump in the road to understanding and embracing the wit, charm, humor and general information we disseminate here on a daily basis. We have some of the most intelligent and informed participants in the world wide web here in the yard. That's part of the attraction and charm of the Boneyard.

I don't want a reader to have to work to read/understand my posts, so I try not to use initials or abbreviations. After reading Veryolddog's plea, I'm going to be even more vigilant in using a writing style that is compatible to all who would honor me by taking the time to read my thoughts and opinions. :) Again, I don't think his request is unreasonable.
 
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HuskyNan said:
I am guessing that you’re nowhere near 80 or even 60 if you can make those statements. As you age, your brain slows down and it’s not unusual to struggle to remember names or common words. The ability to learn decreases with age, too. See this link. Memory Problems: What is Normal Aging and What is Not?

How about ratcheting back the snark and make an attempt to understand @veryolddog ’s problem? How about a little compassion, too? I’d get angrier with your apparent lack of concern for people except that you will find out exactly what I’m talking about some day and I take no joy in it. It’s mortifying to scramble to remember friends’ names or the name of a restaurant we went to just last week. Having people tell us to just spend 3 minutes to memorize facts is rather cold.
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Fair enough but I still think veryolddog can figure it all out pretty quickly. I don't mean that to be snarky, but we are not talking advanced maths here. I just have faith he can do it.

I may not be 80 but I care and have cared for a lot of people in their 80s and 90s, so contrary to your reply, I do have knowledge on the subject. I was just teaching a 86 year old last week how to send out emails. She didn't think she could do it, now she sends me emails very hour just to remind me that she can.

She did send the entire message in the title the first time around, but all good after that. I gave her a cheat sheet too as suggested to the veryolddog. My sense is that veryolddog can do adapt as he seems to understand and refer to WWII and even ASSume.
 
HuskyNan said:
Yes, but it would affect all boards and there may be men’s basketball or football players with the same initials.
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I suppose the way around that would be to add a symbol between the initials. C*W becomes Christyn Williams. If you keep the symbol consistent between boards, then you could create a system of abbreviations you need to each board.

I’m not lobbying for this, I just see it as a way around the problem if the board decided it wanted to do it.
 
This reminds me of more than a few years ago during the flip phone era (yes I know some still use them!) several of my girl athletes were discussing how their dads were terrible texting and wondering why he just didn't use T9. They turned to me and asked if I used it. I said of course. Went home and looked it up. From that moment on I was no longer telling a lie! Old dogs (referring to me not the OP)can learn new tricks albeit sometimes really really slowly!
 
Zinethar said:
This reminds me of more than a few years ago during the flip phone era (yes I know some still use them!) several of my girl athletes were discussing how their dads were terrible texting and wondering why he just didn't use T9. They turned to me and asked if I used it. I said of course. Went home and looked it up. From that moment on I was no longer telling a lie! Old dogs (referring to me not the OP)can learn new tricks albeit sometimes really really slowly!
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On the super highway of modern technology, I'm in the far right lane (the slow lane). I use to be in the fast lane, but year by year, modern technology passed me by. My first Radio Shack computer did not have a hard drive. We used floppy discs. You had to use DOS commands to do anything. Windows had not yet begun using icons like we do now. When I installed a hard drive in my computer, I thought I was all that and a bag of chips. I was now ready for the world. :) No more floppy discs.

Only MAC computers had the icons that every computer maker uses today. That computer was one of the first home computers on the market. The internet had not been made available to the public yet. Wi-Fi could only be found on college campuses. What a major achievement in the history of mankind that was. Can you for a moment think of what it would be like today if there was no internet?!? :eek: We've come a long way since those early days. The internet is a world wide phenomena. We as a spices are dependent on the computer chip and the internet.

The internet is an after thought we take for granted. I remember when the internet was first made available to the public. Like remote controlled color TV, cell phones and the internet, some youngsters alive today don't know a world WITHOUT those conveniences. Folks over 50 years old can remember life BEFORE cell phones and computers. What did we do before plastic credit/debit cards were invented? Can you imagine going a month W/O your cellphone or your plastic? :eek:
 
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