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Amore: Crumbling Connecticut Foundation? Kevin Ollie Under Scrutiny With UConn Men

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UChusky916 said:
Links not working but I found it from Courant's twitter feed:


This is certainly interesting:

"As described by several sources close to the program, who spoke to the Courant on condition of anonymity, Ollie, always businesslike and close-to-the-vest, had become resistant to "letting people in," less communicative, more determined to distance himself from the Calhoun era."


I seriously wonder if his divorce has really affected him on a deeper level.
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Chief reported this days ago.
 
Interesting article. Can Ollie turn it around? I kind of fall into the 'you are either a good college basketball coach or you're not' camp. I think Calhoun could surround himself with a bunch of turnips assistants and still pump out winning teams. I like that Ollie is making changes and being introspective, but is he truly capable of building and maintaining a successful college basketball program? The next few months and year will be interesting for sure.
 
tcf15 said:
Not gonna lie, I was surprised to the flexibility argument pop up in the article:

There was disenchantment throughout the athletic department in the way the Huskies' front-court players were developing, slow in putting on weight, more flexibility than strength.
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Listen to Chief next time - beat the Courant by two years.
 
Hans Sprungfeld said:
It's rather startling to read an article that states the major concerns, quotes parties from multiple perspectives, offers some new stuff, acknowledges the questions for which answers were demanded by many on The Boneyard, gives direct responses for almost all of them, and nevertheless has some people complaining and even others claiming, more or less, "That's exactly what I've been saying."

This thread has been well worth a look at comments from Ignored posters. I'm bending toward now thinking that one is a sincere fan who I'd just prefer not to read, and I think I've decided that someone new fits that category as well.

"Ignoring: it's not just for trolls and the relentlessly negative."
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Then stop talking about it and do it, .
 
No, after reading it is starting to make some sense. Calhoun was and is completely in support of Miller who is a great X's and O's guy but KO decided he needed to try to get better players and Chillious was the answer. Pretty much what has been said about Chillious. We are in a totally different recruiting world than when we were in the BE and ultimately you have to have the best talent on the floor you can get, you can't just always coach it up. We are not only going for talent but toughness, and we have to be honest here about the toughness of our recent teams, especially down low. So for $350,000 he gets the job, let's see if he's worth it.
 
Huskyforlife said:
After reading Calhoun's quote on Glen Miller, I'm convinced Ollie is losing his mind. We're in deep , how can anyone deny it after reading that article?
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It's more Ollie has already lost his mind, can he get it back is the key. Losing his mind implies that this is going to get worse from here... and from reading that article it doesn't give that impression at all.
 
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KSC94 said:
Would love to know more about UConn "not being the right fit" for Durham, and how it's "hard to describe." None of the guys leaving seemed to have the mental makeup necessary to succeed at UConn, and that shows more and more with every piece that comes out about the situation. They'll get some hard-nosed dudes who want to compete. And hopefully we don't lose 2 of our 3 best players for the season again for a long time.
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One thing anyone could notice with these 3 players on the court is they all appeared to be very "soft" players, both with their style of play and body language; especially on the defensive end.

None of them showed mental toughness and discipline on the defensive end, and you never really saw any of them show some swagger on the offensive end, no mean muggin or intensity. That's not Uconn basketball in my eyes...
 
Based on that article, I believe Benedict better see some results from Chillious. $350k is for his recruiting ability. He already has experience and all his connections, so unlike Ollie he won't be given 6 years to figure out how to do his job.
 
Penfield said:
This is probably the deepest look into the state of the UConn program since the season ended. Isn't a very rosy picture, but not completely doom & gloom either.

I think it's safe to consider next year a season on the brink.

Sounds like Ollie might be in a dark place. Hope he finds the light.
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I have every confidence that Kevin and staff are going to turn this around!
 
"As described by several sources close to the program, who spoke to The Courant on condition of anonymity, Ollie, always businesslike and close-to-the-vest, had become resistant to "letting people in," less communicative, more determined to distance himself from the Calhoun era."

Hmmm... sounds like Diaco.
 
Stairmaster said:
They're attempting to be funny by mocking me because they are both 10 years old.
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I've been mocked and called a fake fan for the past 6 months even though I haven't missed a UConn game I could watch for the past 30 years and have close to 20,000 posts on a UConn message board. People mocking and calling me a fake fan feels like grade school behavior, IMO.
 
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BUConn10 said:
I've been called a fake fan 3 times this week over the most trivial things. So it only gets annoying when you see the other side a couple times in a day?
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I don't think you be saying that if you were a real fan.
 
huskymedic said:
"As described by several sources close to the program, who spoke to The Courant on condition of anonymity, Ollie, always businesslike and close-to-the-vest, had become resistant to "letting people in," less communicative, more determined to distance himself from the Calhoun era."

Hmmm... sounds like Diaco.
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of winning?
 
Chief00 said:
Listen to Chief next time - beat the Courant by two years.
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You get mocked around here for the Drummond thing and some other strange theories but you've also been right about the program more than pretty much anyone else on the board in the past year or two. Long live the Chief.
 
intlzncster said:
Tonality wise, you guys were different. It was more 'Ollie sucks' than this is what Ollie needs to do to improve. AD Benedict sounds like he's positive on what Ollie is doing now. Which is the exact opposite of many of you guys.
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Not me - just a bunch of guys you like inferring and assuming whatever you want. Head bang
 
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Fishy said:
Benedict will be publicly positive on every coach right up to the moment he fires him.
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Yep. Saying positive stuff doesn't imply he is confident in KO at this point. His actions, in fact, imply otherwise.
 
huskymedic said:
"As described by several sources close to the program, who spoke to The Courant on condition of anonymity, Ollie, always businesslike and close-to-the-vest, had become resistant to "letting people in," less communicative, more determined to distance himself from the Calhoun era."

Hmmm... sounds like Diaco.
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When you combine that with Calhoun's comments, it sounds like Calhoun is having doubts and, possibly, expressing those to KO in private. To me, it sounded like Calhoun was more positive on Miller than Ollie. But, maybe he was just trying to sell his old assistant to anyone that might be listening.
 
superjohn said:
You get mocked around here for the Drummond thing and some other strange theories but you've also been right about the program more than pretty much anyone else on the board in the past year or two. Long live the Chief.
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Yeah, long live the guy who gives 100% of the credit for every recruit we landed in the 2016 cycle to Sam Cassell's buddy from Baltimore. Long live the guy who thinks that KO's biggest sin isn't lack of player development, inconsistent recruiting, or shoddy gameplanning, but not calling Jim Calhoun on the phone as often as he should.
 
huskymedic said:
"As described by several sources close to the program, who spoke to The Courant on condition of anonymity, Ollie, always businesslike and close-to-the-vest, had become resistant to "letting people in," less communicative, more determined to distance himself from the Calhoun era."
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To his credit, we sure feel like we're a good distance away from the Calhoun era.

So far, it's working out for everyone except him, his boss, his mentor, his players, and UConn fans..
 
Paesano said:
When you combine that with Calhoun's comments, it sounds like Calhoun is having doubts and, possibly, expressing those to KO in private. To me, it sounded like Calhoun was more positive on Miller than Ollie. But, maybe he was just trying to sell his old assistant to anyone that might be listening.
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Read Miller's quote. He thanks Calhoun and was "shocked" Ollie let him go.

"...I can't let what didn't work out, steal my sense of value." There's more to this than what Ollie told Jacobs.
 
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superjohn said:
I've been mocked and called a fake fan for the past 6 months even though I haven't missed a UConn game I could watch for the past 30 years and have close to 20,000 posts on a UConn message board. People mocking and calling me a fake fan feels like grade school behavior, IMO.
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You're a fake fan if you think UConn can do better than Ollie and 57-43 over the last 3 years.
 
CTBasketball said:
Read Miller's quote. He thanks Calhoun and was "shocked" Ollie let him go.

"...I can't let what didn't work out, steal my sense of value." There's more to this than what Ollie told Jacobs.
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This is un-goshdarn-believable.

I spent a full season reading on this very board about how Miller was absolutely useless on the recruiting trail and how he was responsible for our complete lack of big man development. I spent 3 seasons reading how Ollie was surrounding himself with an echo chamber of yes-men and that he needed to go outside the UConn family; that we're hamstringing ourselves by gifting jobs on the coaching staff to former Huskies, and we need to be hiring the best possible coaches no matter where they played their college ball.

So now Ollie firing Miller is Yet Another Awful Decision That's Means There Is Something Terrible Going On Behind The Scenes. What utter garbage.
 
johnhuskies95 said:
You're a fake fan if you think UConn can do better than Ollie and 57-43 over the last 3 years.
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What's the term for fans who think Joe Dooley, King Rice, and Steve Forbes can do better than that? Clueless?
 
Stairmaster said:
Yeah, long live the guy who gives 100% of the credit for every recruit we landed in the 2016 cycle to Sam Cassell's buddy from Baltimore. Long live the guy who thinks that KO's biggest sin isn't lack of player development, inconsistent recruiting, or shoddy gameplanning, but not calling Jim Calhoun on the phone as often as he should.
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Sure make fun of him for the Bunkey stuff, Drummond, weird stuff on LaVar Ball/race etc. I get it, he's easy to make fun of and makes himself a traget. He was also right about the timing of the Diaco hire, the Travis Ilian stuff, rift between Ollie and Miller, Ollie and Calhoun not speaking much at all anymore etc.
 
CTBasketball said:
Read Miller's quote. He thanks Calhoun and was "shocked" Ollie let him go.

"...I can't let what didn't work out, steal my sense of value." There's more to this than what Ollie told Jacobs.
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JC thinks Miller is great at x and o's, but KO didn't want to run that type of stuff. You've seen our attempt at an NBA offense. We don't even have an inbounds play anymore. So goodbye to institutional knowledge and hello to guys known for recruiting. Again, anyone who thinks there was a master plan letting 4 guys walk because Chillious was coming in along with a bunch of talent were reading it wrong. My guess is 2 more years of seeing this through.
 
After this last season, you knew changes needed to be made. They were. Obviously things weren't all pretty.

There is so much riding on this next season. Really hoping it all works out.
 
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