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SubbaBub said:
I thought they had Adams at RB and Ream "playing" LB.

IMO, unless someone emerges we have our 5 midfielders for now. Play them together as much as possible and try to find a serviceable 9 (I'd give Morris a shot, he's very strong) and 4 defenders. I think we go into 2022 with a lesser GK than we've had in a long time but it is what it is.

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Arriola Pulisic Boyd
McKennie Adams
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Morris??? That’s crazy, he’s like 6th in my depth chart, he has worse control than Zardes and absolutely no left foot.
 
Mr. Conehead said:
I don't see it; but, apparently a Premiership team is after USMNT Long; but, the Red Bulls have rejected at least one offer so far.

www.espn.com

Sources: NYRB reject Prem offers for U.S.'s Long

The New York Red Bulls have rebuffed transfer offers from an unnamed Premier League side for U.S. international Aaron Long, sources say.
www.espn.com www.espn.com
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He's been our (USA) best CB for awhile now. Minus Brooks of course, who's usually hurt.
 
CardiacAndre7 said:
Morris??? That’s crazy, he’s like 6th in my depth chart, he has worse control than Zardes and absolutely no left foot.
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He can run and hold the ball. Isn't that what we value around here in a 9? Scoring goals sure isn't. During the GC he threw off a few defenders with his strength and doesn't look comfortable wide.

If Jozy and Zardes are the answer, and they aren't, who else is next in line? It's not Sargent yet, but leaving him off the main roster is stupid.
 
For the next camp, give me all foreign club players up top.... Boyd, Weah, Sargent, Wood, and maybe Soto (assuming it doesn’t interfere with U23 play, in which case 3 of the 5 should go olympic qualifying route).

Here’s our approximate player-pool for Forwards (and I’ll include the Berhalter crushes since, let’s face it, they’re getting heavy consideration). I may have forgotten a couple, but this is probably the bulk of it.

Zardes MLS
Altidore - MLS
Morris - MLS
Wood - Germany
Boyd - Turkey
Weah - France
Sargent - Germany
Soto - Germany
Novokavich - Dutch
Arriola - MLS
Lewis - MLS
DeLaFuente - ???
Rennicks - MLS
Reyna (not sure if he'd play up top or as a CAM) - Germany
 
Wood, Weah, Sargent, Morris for the 9.

Arriola and Boyd can have the wings until someone else steps up. This isn't difficult.

What's difficult is finding 4 at the back. No one has cemented a spot and we are nearly halfway through the WC cycle.
 
PSV Eindhoven trying to sign Chris Gloster from Hannover. He’d be competing against 2 others for starting LB role. Hannover already told him he’d be with the first team this season.

Would be great if the move happens. PSV I’m contention for Champions League (need to win a couple playoffs first).

LINK
 
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SubbaBub said:
Wood, Weah, Sargent, Morris for the 9.

Arriola and Boyd can have the wings until someone else steps up. This isn't difficult.

What's difficult is finding 4 at the back. No one has cemented a spot and we are nearly halfway through the WC cycle.
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Jozy, Zardes, Sargent, Nova and Soto are all better players than Morris. Look at Morris’ scoring record. For LB Gloster and eventually Bello, RB Yedlin and Cannon, who is getting looked at by Anderlecht. CB’s should be Brooks and Long, with Miazga, CCV and EPB/Richards.
 
CardiacAndre7 said:
Jozy, Zardes, Sargent, Nova and Soto are all better players than Morris. Look at Morris’ scoring record. For LB Gloster and eventually Bello, RB Yedlin and Cannon, who is getting looked at by Anderlecht. CB’s should be Brooks and Long, with Miazga, CCV and EPB/Richards.
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Hard no on Jozy in 2022, which means a hard no in 2019. Zardes can't handle the ball. Scoring with your face has little strategic value. The lost opportunity costs of playing those two guys is enormous, negligent.

I say Morris because he is the guy who keeps getting called up. Can he play the 9, I have no idea. I just know that the unknown is better than what we have now. I'll need to see Sargent. Soto, and Nova at the senior level. Sargent looks like the real deal and should be playing with 20 yr old CP as much as possible.

As for the back 4, the names you lost sound OK but I've yet to see them collectively do anything that leads me to believe they won't be a liability in qualifying. Maybe it's them, the coaching, the system, or the keeper but the D has stunk this year. Regularly exposed by lesser attacking squads.
 
A brief write up on Sargent.
“Sargent using Gold Cup disappointment to fuel first-team drive at Werder Bremen”
Scored the only goal in yesterday’s friendly win v Cologne. Berhalter is a horses arse. But hey, more Zardes and Morris please.

LINK
 
Waquoit said:
We can like him, we just know he will never reach his potential.
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We can all like Aaron and reasonably believe it will take Long(er) to reach his potential against lesser MLS talent, but also know just going to Europe is no guarantee.
 
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Da_Aisijimo_Gou said:
We can all like Aaron and reasonably believe it will take Long(er) to reach his potential against lesser MLS talent, but also know just going to Europe is no guarantee.
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I agree on the talent and development sides, Europe provides greater competition than MLS in the top 5 or so divisions (Emgland, Spain, Germany, Italy, France and maybe the Netherlands); but success is not guaranteed. The problem is USSF seems to be more interested in supporting the business side of US soccer and sees the USMNT as its marketing arm. That's where the issue with MLS really rears its head.
 
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Dest starts again for Ajax (he's started every first team preseason friendly per twitter) and whips in an assist against Panathinaikos (spelling?), one of Greece's top clubs.



He's making that first team and is going to play some rotational minutes at the least. Stock rapidly rising.
 
UConNick said:
Dest starts again for Ajax (he's started every first team preseason friendly per twitter) and whips in an assist against Panathinaikos (spelling?), one of Greece's top clubs.



He's making that first team and is going to play some rotational minutes at the least. Stock rapidly rising.
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They're playing PAOK, not Panathinaikos. PAOK is located in Salonica, Panathinaikos is Athens.
 
I think that US Soccer's plan, through its DA, is now coming to fruition. This may be the best set of young players we have ever had. When I looked at the DA all-star teams at every level both boys and girls, the best players were clearly coming through the academies, and this was true even on the girl's side. 90% of the USWNT went through those academies. More on the boy's side.

They teach unity of play, systematically, and though this has come under a lot of criticism (Anson Dorrance for one thinks we should have many different styes of play) we can see the results now in the latter stages as team play is more cohesive.

The US is on the right road.

If anything I'm more concerned about the women's game than the men's game.
 
upstater said:
They're playing PAOK, not Panathinaikos. PAOK is located in Salonica, Panathinaikos is Athens.
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Not trying to get into a pissing match with one of the posters I most respect on this board, but it is Panathinaikos. A simple google search would show you that's who they were playing.
 
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upstater said:
I think that US Soccer's plan, through its DA, is now coming to fruition. This may be the best set of young players we have ever had. When I looked at the DA all-star teams at every level both boys and girls, the best players were clearly coming through the academies, and this was true even on the girl's side. 90% of the USWNT went through those academies. More on the boy's side.

They teach unity of play, systematically, and though this has come under a lot of criticism (Anson Dorrance for one thinks we should have many different styes of play) we can see the results now in the latter stages as team play is more cohesive.

The US is on the right road.

If anything I'm more concerned about the women's game than the men's game.
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We said the same thing when Donovan and Beasley dominated at the U-20 level.

In truth, our U-20s haven’t done any better than they ever have done.
 
ZooCougar said:
We said the same thing when Donovan and Beasley dominated at the U-20 level.

In truth, our U-20s haven’t done any better than they ever have done.
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This was long before the academy came along.

We have more guys than ever before getting placed in top division European teams.
 
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Dest started and played a full 90 minutes at LB in Ajax’s 2-0 win over rivals PSV in the Netherlands ‘Super Cup’. Safe to say the kid has arrived and will be a meaningful part of Ajax’s plans this season. Looking forward to seeing his development/maturation at a club with a long history of churning out talented young players.

Berhalter and Crew (see what I did there) need to cap-tie him quick, before Netherlands comes along. An 18 year old dual-national potentially starting at that nations top club, playing along side a good potion of the national team members on the club.... tick-tock USSF... tick———tock.
 
SAMCRO said:
Dest started and played a full 90 minutes at LB in Ajax’s 2-0 win over rivals PSV in the Netherlands ‘Super Cup’. Safe to say the kid has arrived and will be a meaningful part of Ajax’s plans this season. Looking forward to seeing his development/maturation at a club with a long history of churning out talented young players.

Berhalter and Crew (see what I did there) need to cap-tie him quick, before Netherlands comes along. An 18 year old dual-national potentially starting at that nations top club, playing along side a good potion of the national team members on the club.... tick-tock USSF... tick———tock.
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Coach Bertsmoker wants to play Adams at Right Back instead.
 
ZooCougar said:
Coach Bertsmoker wants to play Adams at Right Back instead.
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He should be fired if he continues to play Adams at RB. Despite how many perceive Yedlin, he’s a top-half RB in the Prem and is a one man counter attack. And during Adams’ stretch where he was starting every game fkr RB Leipzig, he was arguably a Top-3 player on the team. Kid is Kante-esque.
 
CardiacAndre7 said:
He should be fired if he continues to play Adams at RB. Despite how many perceive Yedlin, he’s a top-half RB in the Prem and is a one man counter attack. And during Adams’ stretch where he was starting every game fkr RB Leipzig, he was arguably a Top-3 player on the team. Kid is Kante-esque.
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Gregggy Ball is this 3-2-2-3 attacking shape. But the way the US plays it, it just ends up like ‘98 4-6-1.
 
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