Americans Abroad

[upstater]

We have a second league already. And it is loaded with signings from all over the world.

You don’t seem to understand that this already exists.

Besides MLS Next Pro is just a pro league for the academies. It’s not even what you are describing.

Totally wrong on this. Next Pro is not for the academies. Wrong. They are bringing in all ages and pros from all over the world, only this time it's going to be farm teams for MLS. Quote from someone involved: "It's the baseball model."

 

[ZooCougar]

Totally wrong on this. Next Pro is not for the academies. Wrong. They are bringing in all ages and pros from all over the world, only this time it's going to be farm teams for MLS. Quote from someone involved: "It's the baseball model."

Believe me. The MLS 2 teams will be plopping their academy kids there. Almost everything MLS does is about controlling labor and depressing the cost.

 

[ZooCougar]

They're freakin owned by billionaires.

Well on the P and L lines the 2 teams are always in the red.

Jesus, there are MLS teams that wouldn’t run academies if they didn’t have to.

 

[upstater]

Believe me. The MLS 2 teams will be plopping their academy kids there. Almost everything MLS does is about controlling labor and depressing the cost.

I'm telling you this league is built to supplant USL. It will. There is absolutely no doubt about that. Of course, in 2023 hey will start adding USL teams too if those teams go to an academy model.

And many of them will. Heck, the Pitt Riverhounds are already there.

 

[ZooCougar]

I'm telling you this league is built to supplant USL. It will. There is absolutely no doubt about that. Of course, in 2023 hey will start adding USL teams too if those teams go to an academy model.

And many of them will. Heck, the Pitt Riverhounds are already there.

No it’s not. MLS even said they weren’t going to try and lure USL D3 clubs away. Are you even paying attention?

 

[upstater]

No it’s not. MLS even said they weren’t going to try and lure USL D3 clubs away. Are you even paying attention?

So--what independent clubs do you believe they intend to add if not top USL clubs?

I know for a fact this is MLS's plan to supplant the USL.

MLS is quite explicit--even in public--about adding independent clubs to MLS Pro, and they are announcing the expansion clubs in the next few months.

You believe these aren't going to be clubs like the Riverhounds? I guarantee that the Riverhounds and the like are who they are talking about. And they wouldn't have said it if they didn't already have clubs like that in mind.

 

[ZooCougar]

So--what independent clubs do you believe they intend to add if not top USL clubs?

I know for a fact this is MLS's plan to supplant the USL.

MLS is quite explicit--even in public--about adding independent clubs to MLS Pro, and they are announcing the expansion clubs in the next few months.

You believe these aren't going to be clubs like the Riverhounds? I guarantee that the Riverhounds and the like are who they are talking about. And they wouldn't have said it if they didn't already have clubs like that in mind.

They will go after NISA or expansion clubs.

Educate yo self.

MLS Next Pro Adds Another Element to U.S. Soccer’s Ever-Evolving Lower Club Tier | Sports Illustrated

“At the same time, Altchek stressed that MLS has no intention of returning to the days of the USL-NASL turf war or similar conflicts that put stress on the American lower tiers. MLS isn’t targeting, and doesn’t plan on targeting, any independent USL clubs for MLS Next Pro membership.

“We have a great relationship with the USL. We’ve been working collaboratively for a number of years and we’re continuing to do so,” he said. “But the time has come for us to control our own competition and everyone knows that.”

 

[upstater]

They will go after NISA or expansion clubs.

Educate yo self.

MLS Next Pro Adds Another Element to U.S. Soccer’s Ever-Evolving Lower Club Tier | Sports Illustrated

“At the same time, Altchek stressed that MLS has no intention of returning to the days of the USL-NASL turf war or similar conflicts that put stress on the American lower tiers. MLS isn’t targeting, and doesn’t plan on targeting, any independent USL clubs for MLS Next Pro membership.

“We have a great relationship with the USL. We’ve been working collaboratively for a number of years and we’re continuing to do so,” he said. “But the time has come for us to control our own competition and everyone knows that.”

I'll make a bet with you, because I've talked to someone in the office who said the exact opposite, and it's going to happen soon. 2023.

 

[ZooCougar]

I'll make a bet with you, because I've talked to someone in the office who said the exact opposite, and it's going to happen soon. 2023.

Your friend is uninformed. These teams were the least popular and had the lowest attendance in the USL. There is no threat LOL.

 

[Waquoit]

I'll make a bet with you, because I've talked to someone in the office who said the exact opposite, and it's going to happen soon. 2023.

Well since you talked to a guy in the office....

 

[businesslawyer]

Well since you talked to a guy in the office....

Is the office attached to a carwash?

 

[upstater]

Well since you talked to a guy in the office....

Any time I've discussed changes well ahead of public announcements on this forum, they've happened. So--look for teams like Pitt being added, look for the reintroduction of USSF into organizing the academies. It will happen.

The reason this new league was developed was to cut off all talk of relegation in the USA.

 

[Waquoit]

I say zero "teams like Pitt" will be added to this stupid league in 2023. The Cosmos and the Rhinos, maybe.

 

[ZooCougar]

Well since you talked to a guy in the office....

The car wash.

 

[ZooCougar]

Any time I've discussed changes well ahead of public announcements on this forum, they've happened. So--look for teams like Pitt being added, look for the reintroduction of USSF into organizing the academies. It will happen.

The reason this new league was developed was to cut off all talk of relegation in the USA.

Sounds like a terrible idea that all should be against.

No way a League comprised of 2 teams that gets attendance in the dozens is going to supplant USL which is fairly popular in comparison.

No independent teams want to play farm/reserve teams. There is no juice.

The USL is already kind of awful. This would be worse. And literally nobody is afraid of a moribund Rochester with “Jamie Vardy” money behind them. LOL.

 

[ZooCougar]

I say zero "teams like Pitt" will be added to this stupid league in 2023. The Cosmos and the Rhinos, maybe.

The Cosmos hate MLS. No way. They are still actively suing MLS and USSF for good reason.

 

[SubbaBub]

Any news on Americans abroad?

 

[Palatine]

I would settle for news on a broad.

 

[ZooCougar]

Any news on Americans abroad?

Well since there aren’t really any Americans in MLS worth talking about we should just call the thread “Americans”.

 

[outlaw]

Awesome graphic right here! Lot of talent overseas

 

[Waquoit]

Tim Ream was wearing the captain's armband for Fulham v City last weekend.

 

[ZooCougar]

Anyone else notice that Chris Armas is the #2 manager at Man U and the players have already started referring to him as Ted Lasso in a non complimentary way?

Armas was fired by the Red Bulls and Toronto.

Notably he was fired from Toronto after winning only 2 in 15.

 

[Palatine]

Pulisic is filling up all the space in trophy case.