OT: American, who replaces 3 teams to Big 12

[Ha Who]

The last time we were in the AAC, we were in the conversation and actually presented to the big 12 for membership. This time around, and for a variety of reasons, we were not even in the mix. Take from that what you will - but we are currently not even in the conversation.

Nobody knows what happens behind closed doors. We might have been informally approached and said no thanks.

 

[Hoophound]

Nobody knows what happens behind closed doors. We might have been informally approached and said no thanks.

Or it was the other way around.

Regardless, our metrics were supposedly second to only BYU last time around. My suspicion is that we just aren't a good fit and everyone on both sides knows it. We should end up in a similar stratosphere money wise as the B12 will if we can get a good coach and win football games. We'd get an improved CBS deal and the Big East should be getting a bump too.

 

[metsfan2323]

Wichita State only fields 14 sports and misses a lot of sports that Big East schools are expected to field teams in: no soccer, no lacrosse, no field hockey. It's also not easily reached by air. No direct flights east of Chicago, and mostly regional jets at that.

The only school worth adding to the Big East that would actually say yes to an offer is UMASS. UMASS is 10 times a better fit than Wichita.

I know, we can't add UMASS because they might find their version of Calhoun and start beating us so we (and other local BE schools) keep our thumb on them to the detriment of the conference

 

[Ha Who]

Or it was the other way around.

Regardless, our metrics were supposedly second to only BYU last time around. My suspicion is that we just aren't a good fit and everyone on both sides knows it. We should end up in a similar stratosphere money wise as the B12 will if we can get a good coach and win football games. We'd get an improved CBS deal and the Big East should be getting a bump too.

Totally agree. It could be we approached them Washington to New York loves hoops. We would be on an island again if we moved. Would like the football just not a fit

 

[bendm]

I feel for schools like Memphis. They were relevant at one time, and have now been relegated to nothingness. Seems awfully familiar. While schools like Wake are riding on the coattails of nearby institutions into the limelight.

Stop. if we were on the brink of joining c-USA 2.0 then you’d really have something to cry about

 

[NowInStorrs]

The only school worth adding to the Big East that would actually say yes to an offer is UMASS. UMASS is 10 times a better fit than Wichita.

I know, we can't add UMASS because they might find their version of Calhoun and start beating us so we (and other local BE schools) keep our thumb on them to the detriment of the conference

 

[Tyler2Rings]

At this point if your Temple do you follow UConn’s lead and go Indy? Put non-football sports in the A-10

 

[HuskyinWRNY]

The only non power conference team you add to the Big East is Gonzaga. Everyone else is filler and adds nothing from a revenue and competition standpoint.

It is time for Gonzaga to join. The expected departure of BYU from the WCC to the Big 12 helps in this regard. That conference just got weaker.

#DaggerTreyTy
#GonzagaToBigEast

never happen

 

[superjohn]

never happen

Without the distance Gonzaga would already be in the Big East but I just don't see how you get over that hurdle.

 

[HuskyHawk]

UMass is the obvious candidate. Buffalo could be another. Marshall, Rice are viable options.

 

[UCTitleTown]

The best fit for Cincinnati is the Big 10.

 

[Storrs South]

At this point if your Temple do you follow UConn’s lead and go Indy? Put non-football sports in the A-10

The sentiment I get with Temple fans is they view Independence as a death sentence for football. Navy will definitely exit in football no way are they going to be satisfied playing Coastal Carolina UAB and App State, but Temple probably hangs on unless any of Memphis, USF, or SMU leave. TU fans seem to cling onto the Rhule years and believe the remaining AAC is on par with A-10 basketball (lol).

 

[BoukofJames]

The sentiment I get with Temple fans is they view Independence as a death sentence for football. Navy will definitely exit in football no way are they going to be satisfied playing Coastal Carolina UAB and App State, but Temple probably hangs on unless any of Memphis, USF, or SMU leave. TU fans seem to cling onto the Rhule years and believe the remaining AAC is on par with A-10 basketball (lol).

That’s wild to me, I have reverence for Temple BBall and think A10 + Indy football is a good solution for them. I can’t understand what they think they’re chasing in football/conference realignment. They have lesser chance than us of joining a power football conference and are a terrible fit in the leftover AAC

 

[Storrs South]

That’s wild to me, I have reverence for Temple BBall and think A10 + Indy football is a good solution for them. I can’t understand what they think they’re chasing in football/conference realignment. They have lesser chance than us of joining a power football conference and are a terrible fit in the leftover AAC

I agree, the leftover AAC may have a couple nice FB programs, but basketball is going to be a trainwreck, the travel will be awful for them, and most games are going to be on ESPN+ for even less money than was already on the table. I have no idea how Temple recruits to that schedule, getting to play Memphis and Wichita State twice a year isn't much to work with.

My guess is Navy gets out as soon as it's clear who the AAC is adding, then Temple takes the "UConn with the original AAC path": feeling out if this new reality is OK only to determine it's not and leave in 5-7 years.

Given the amount of buyout money coming from 4 schools, buy in money from 4 schools, tourney credits the leftovers get to share amongst themselves, that may be the most logical path since you can cash those checks then use that money to get out later on like UConn did.

 

[UConnJim]

At this point if your Temple do you follow UConn’s lead and go Indy? Put non-football sports in the A-10

I think Temple’s best options are: 1) Indy football, A10 other sports or 2) MAC. AAC makes no sense with the potential new schools.

 

[Big East Fa]

Why would App State leave the Sun Belt? Sun Belt is the 6th best football conference right now

TV money.

 

[Hans Sprungfeld]

So all these five stars going to Memphis will be like "Coach Penny, we're playing who?"

Temple and especially Memphis are sweating bullets now.

Memphis can play Overtime Elite.

Temple can start a bidding war for the Philly market between ACC and B1G. Otherwise, they must feel like they did something truly awful in a past life.

 

[MU in MKE]

Memphis can always try to be the Gonzaga of the AAC? It's not like the 5*'s that go to Gonzaga are blindsided by their conference schedule. A$ long a$ the player$ are taken care of, they'll continue to get high level recruits.

 

[bendm]

current G5 tv deals:

Mtn West- w/ fox and cbs through '26 pays $270 million total divided by 12 teams = $3.75 million/team

MAC- w/ espn through '26 pays $10 million per season divided by 12 teams = $830k/team

CUSA- w/ espn+ and cbs sports through '23 = ~$400k/team

Sun Belt- ~$350k/team

the aac is currently around $8million per team? so they are probably falling below the Mtn West with their new deal after losing at least half their value. i didnt realize how little sun belt and cusa made.