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Chief00 said:
Chief always thought the risk of injury was less playing with great players than casual pick-up games with uncoordinated dudes. Just my take and experience.
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#CasualFan take. I'll coach you up.
 
WingU-Conn said:
#CasualFan take. I'll coach you up.
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Actually not exactly - it’s based on many years of personal experience. The guys you are most likely to get injury against are uncoordinated guys who don’t know how to play. In my playing days - games with elite players while tough, intense and competitive were much cleaner.
 
Chief00 said:
Actually not exactly - it’s based on many years of personal experience. The guys you are most likely to get injury against are uncoordinated guys who don’t know how to play. In my playing days - games with elite players while toug, intense and competitive were much cleaner.
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Tell us more about your actual Division 1 playing experience. :rolleyes:

Descriptive Epidemiology of Collegiate Men's Basketball Injuries: National Collegiate Athletic Association Injury Surveillance System, 1988–1989 Through 2003–2004

Guys don't go as hard in pick-up games/practice as they do in real games. Don't worry, I'll coach you up.
 
WingU-Conn said:
Tell us more about your actual Division 1 playing experience. :rolleyes:

Descriptive Epidemiology of Collegiate Men's Basketball Injuries: National Collegiate Athletic Association Injury Surveillance System, 1988–1989 Through 2003–2004

Guys don't go as hard in pick-up games/practice as they do in real games. Don't worry, I'll coach you up.
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Thanks but that study doesn’t refute what Chief said. It is measuring the same legit players playing in practices and games. What I was referring to wasn’t the difference between practice and games, but playing with good athletes vs uncoordinated bad ones. I feel it’s much less a risk of injury playing against good players.
 
Chief00 said:
Thanks but that study doesn’t refute what Chief said. It is measuring the same legit players playing in practices and games. What I was referring to wasn’t the difference between practice and games, but playing with good athletes vs uncoordinated bad ones. I feel it’s much less a risk of injury playing against good players.
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That's accurate. I also feel that, in contact sports, injuries occur more easily when you aren't going 100%. There's something about bracing properly for big hits, staying strong through your movements, and tackling/hitting with force that keeps one from injuring oneself. Also, the adrenaline involved with competitive game action makes the body 'stronger' so to speak. I've no idea if this all applies to basketball however.
 
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I'd like to see him brought along slowly for the first 10 games, even if he insists he's 100%. Getting greedy and losing him early in the season to any injury while he's adjusting to game speed would be a disaster. But I'm not the Coach and Hurley has to use his judgement here. Great to have him back either way.
 
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Jimdish255 said:
I'd like to see him brought along slowly for the first 10 games, even if he insists he's 100%. Getting greedy and losing him early in the season to any injury while he's adjusting to game speed would be a disaster. But I'm not the Coach and Hurley has to use his judgement here. Great to have him back either way.
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While I agree in principle, given our annual unbalanced schedule, we really have to show in our first 10-15 games. I'm of the opinion he's going to be right in the full minute mix.
 
Chief00 said:
Thanks but that study doesn’t refute what Chief said. It is measuring the same legit players playing in practices and games. What I was referring to wasn’t the difference between practice and games, but playing with good athletes vs uncoordinated bad ones. I feel it’s much less a risk of injury playing against good players.
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Guys aren’t giving up their bodies diving to the floor and taking charges in pick up games. Much less contact in pick-up games than major D1 basketball games. It’s night and day. So again, you’re wrong. But don’t worry, I’ll coach you up.

intlzncster said:
That's accurate. I also feel that, in contact sports, injuries occur more easily when you aren't going 100%. There's something about bracing properly for big hits, staying strong through your movements, and tackling/hitting with force that keeps one from injuring oneself. Also, the adrenaline involved with competitive game action makes the body 'stronger' so to speak. I've no idea if this all applies to basketball however.
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In the context of the post I replied to, it doesn’t apply. D1 basketball is exponentially more physical than a pickup game. Regardless of the talent on the court.
 
WingU-Conn said:
Guys aren’t giving up their bodies diving to the floor and taking charges in pick up games. Much less contact in pick-up games than major D1 basketball games. It’s night and day. So again, you’re wrong. But don’t worry, I’ll coach you up.

In the context of the post I replied to, it doesn’t apply. D1 basketball is exponentially more physical than a pickup game. Regardless of the talent on the court.
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D1 is more physical but that doesn’t mean the risk of injury is higher. If you play against poor athletes that’s when the injury exposure is the highest. There’s more grabbing because they can’t keep up with you. Because they don’t jump well they are more likely to low bridge you and that’s very dangerous. Good athletes can avoid contact, bad ones are uncoordinated and create contact.
 
Hurley interview today said you’d never know he was injured, took shots to the shoulder, had some rust but otherwise no problem. Is he wearing a shoulder brace strap like last year?
 
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Is he about the same height as Khalid? I wonder how their games compare? What a leader Khalid was, could shoot well, and he was without fear in the biggest moments.
 
Conndog said:
Is he about the same height as Khalid? I wonder how their games compare? What a leader Khalid was, could shoot well, and he was without fear in the biggest moments.
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If he stays healthy we are about to begin to find out. I am really hoping he stays healthy. Certainly has showed us some kind of character so far which is always a great sign. Let's go AG!!
 
Conndog said:
Is he about the same height as Khalid? I wonder how their games compare? What a leader Khalid was, could shoot well, and he was without fear in the biggest moments.
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Alterique is waaay more athletic and explosive. I'd have to give him a long look before considering him on Khalid's level in terms of Moxie. KEA might be number 1 on the UCONN list in that dept.
 
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Conndog said:
Is he about the same height as Khalid? I wonder how their games compare? What a leader Khalid was, could shoot well, and he was without fear in the biggest moments.
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They both have the same chemical composition, but it ends right about there.
 
Chief00 said:
D1 is more physical but that doesn’t mean the risk of injury is higher. If you play against poor athletes that’s when the injury exposure is the highest. There’s more grabbing because they can’t keep up with you. Because they don’t jump well they are more likely to low bridge you and that’s very dangerous. Good athletes can avoid contact, bad ones are uncoordinated and create contact.
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False. Good athletes can avoid contact from poor athletes because they go around them like they are literally standing still. But athletes on the same level will create more contact if they are playing hard.

Athletes on the same level create as much if not more contact. Especially when they are playing hard. Like in a real game. Give it up chief.
 
WingU-Conn said:
False. Good athletes can avoid contact from poor athletes because they go around them like they are literally standing still. But athletes on the same level will create more contact if they are playing hard.

Athletes on the same level create as much if not more contact. Especially when they are playing hard. Like in a real game. Give it up chief.
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This is the dumbest debate ever. I don't know why he keeps debating you. It's true that on some level poorer athletes might cause harm to you more than good ones, but not once you're playing D1, since there's pretty much no chance the UConn players are competing against the types of players who would play so cheap...and if they are, woof.
 
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tzznandrew said:
This is the dumbest debate ever. I don't know why he keeps debating you. It's true that on some level poorer athletes might cause harm to you more than good ones, but not once you're playing D1, since there's pretty much no chance the UConn players are competing against the types of players who would play so cheap...and if they are, woof.
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It's chief. he's developed this inflated ego that doesn't allow him to acknowledge making stupid statements. i've learned to acknowledge mistakes. i misread a wiki page and made a stupid argument on here. i realized i was wrong and admitted as such. i don't know why it's so hard for some people. perhaps his cult status on here from noobs had led him to believe the people posting in jest that they trust in him. i don't know. but the post that started this said something along the lines that if alterique can shoot the ball without pain in a pickup game then he's ready for D1 ball. i don't want to insult that person, but chief is making it difficult. it's just so stupid. but i appreciate the casual fans like chief. it gives me the chance to coach him up.
 
WingU-Conn said:
It's chief. he's developed this inflated ego that doesn't allow him to acknowledge making stupid statements. i've learned to acknowledge mistakes. i misread a wiki page and made a stupid argument on here. i realized i was wrong and admitted as such. i don't know why it's so hard for some people. perhaps his cult status on here from noobs had led him to believe the people posting in jest that they trust in him. i don't know. but the post that started this said something along the lines that if alterique can shoot the ball without pain in a pickup game then he's ready for D1 ball. i don't want to insult that person, but chief is making it difficult. it's just so stupid. but i appreciate the casual fans like chief. it gives me the chance to coach him up.
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The simplistic of concept - Why do you find it so elusive?
 
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