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Burnsbros23 said:
You teach the dip. Trainers who don’t are doing it wrong.
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Interesting!
What is the best coordination between the dip and 'shot pocket'? Is there a shot pocket move in every dip shooter (or 90%) or are dips sometimes incorporated into a fluid launch almost from the hip ala Curry off the dribble or even (with obvious other flaws) Lonzo Ball?
Ray seems to do all 3, a dip, then ball into shot pocket for jump, then the shot at top of jump.

I've taught (and done myself) immediately getting ball to shot pocket (a comfortable spot at or to side of shoulder) and even encourage passer to hit shooters right in the shot pocket = they can immediately launch on the catch. Again Klay Thompson a great example of this. But maybe that doesn't work for some players and for those with less strength.

An unquestionably big problem in youth hoops is players launching 3's well before they are strong enough and developing bad habits. You can discourage this in games/practice all you want, but facts are when kids are on their own they will shoot 3's the second they figure out a way to get the ball to the rim from 20' - this is often at 9 or 10yrs old.

I know there's more spacing in today's game/NBA ... but facts are in basketball getting into your shot quickly still matters a lot. I could see primarily shot pocket and 2 step style for certain types of shooters & especially mid-range, but then teaching a dip for 3-pt specialists. Of course don't want to teach any one player two different things - consistency in either style is key.
Maybe stronger kids teach shot pocket and weaker the dip?
Taller kids can use a 2-motion shot, shorter dip & launch?
 
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Ewekon said:
If he isn't a head man how does that explain the gag order?
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It's been a month since our last AG update. Forget 2019 recruits, I want to feel good about this year. Someone get on this.
 
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OkaForPrez said:
It's been a month since our last AG update. Forget 2019 recruits, I want to feel good about this year. Someone get on this.
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Heard he feels great and is good to go. He realizes that he needs to "mix up" his game with some 3 point shooting as well as going to the hole. This surgery was totally different, and he feels a lot less restricted and healthy than at this time last year.
 
BFieldHusky said:
To be blunt he is the key to whether we dance this year or not. Not exactly breaking news!

Look for them to bring him along slowly. Hurley knows how important he is.
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BF, do you know what the status is as far as a brace goes? I'msure he'll wear something. Just hoping it isn't some gargantuan monstrosity or anything that is too restrictive
 
intlzncster said:
BF, do you know what the status is as far as a brace goes? I'msure he'll wear something. Just hoping it isn't some gargantuan monstrosity or anything that is too restrictive
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That hasn't been decided as far as I know. The one thing I've heard is that the "stability" of the shoulder is much stronger than the past surgeries.
 
BFieldHusky said:
To be blunt he is the key to whether we dance this year or not. Not exactly breaking news!

Look for them to bring him along slowly. Hurley knows how important he is.
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I've been waiting to watch Alterique play since they signed him, like really play, catch his mid-season stride, because this guy is a dynamic player whose presence on the court runs through the team. He and Jalen are gonna be terrific this year.

So looking forward to this!
 
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This kid when right should be a stud and could be as impactful as Jalen is to the team, as I recall we saw some evidence of it last year?
 
For me he's our next stud, I'm most excited about him than any recruit we can get. I know there are a lot of ifs, but when we get back to the promised land, I think he'll be the reason why....always felt that way.
 
Alterique looked like he was carrying a brick on his shoulder the first 4 games last year. Played well to start the year while still not looking right. Can't wait to see what another year of maturity and supposed full health will do to his game.

Friendly reminder that less than a year ago we were 4-0 and down by 1 at the half to the #4 team in the country before Alterique's injury.
 
RayIsTheGOAT said:
Alterique looked like he was carrying a brick on his shoulder the first 4 games last year. Played well to start the year while still not looking right. Can't wait to see what another year of maturity and supposed full health will do to his game.

Friendly reminder that less than a year ago we were 4-0 and down by 1 at the half to the #4 team in the country before Alterique's injury.
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I just watched that first half again, keeping an eye on Alterique. Lots of touches, really integral to the offense, but I guess everyone knows that. It was a different team with him on the floor. Only player driving to the hoop whether in transition or set offense.
 
RayIsTheGOAT said:
Alterique looked like he was carrying a brick on his shoulder the first 4 games last year. Played well to start the year while still not looking right. Can't wait to see what another year of maturity and supposed full health will do to his game.

Friendly reminder that less than a year ago we were 4-0 and down by 1 at the half to the #4 team in the country before Alterique's injury.
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That's a good way to put it. Once there was that brace kerfuffle--'waiting at the last minute for a stronger brace'--at the beginning of the year, I knew we were on borrowed time.
 
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But think about it this way, he helps us beat Oregon when he has one shoulder not working well. If he’s truly fixed now we got a new 5 star recruit. Wishin’ and hopin’.
 
jibsey said:
But think about it this way, he helps us beat Oregon when he has one shoulder not working well. If he’s truly fixed now we got a new 5 star recruit. Wishin’ and hopin’.
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IF
 
HuskyHawk said:
There is no if here. He's solid. You can count on it.
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Have you seen his shoulder hold up in full pace division 1 basketball yet? Of course it's still an "if".

Putting up shots and playing pickup with the team is one thing.
Playing a competitive division 1 basketball game 30 times over is another thing.

Why are people on here in denial about Alterique's shoulder being a huge question mark? Lol
 
RayIsTheGOAT said:
Have you seen his shoulder hold up in full pace division 1 basketball yet? Of course it's still an "if".

Putting up shots and playing pickup with the team is one thing.
Playing a competitive division 1 basketball game 30 times over is another thing.

Why are people on here in denial about Alterique's shoulder being a huge question mark? Lol
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Because he finally had a different surgery with a world renowned surgeon that would correct the problem and prevent it from reoccurring. Dr. Hoop said it's 95% successful. Alterique Gilbert Update

From what I've read about the Latarjet procedure as performed by somebody like Dr. Provencher the fact that Gilbert now is at the point that he's playing basketball, suggests that it was successful and he was able to heal and strengthen the shoulder. There isn't really any difference, to his shoulder, between a pick up game and a competitive one. Reports are that his shooting motion is more fluid now than it ever was after his initial HS injury.
 
HuskyHawk said:
There isn't really any difference, to his shoulder, between a pick up game and a competitive one. Reports are that his shooting motion is more fluid now than it ever was after his initial HS injury.
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Look, I hope you're right about the recovery, but.... WHAT? If you think shoulders are only used for shooting then I have to wonder if you've ever played the game.
 
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WingU-Conn said:
Look, I hope you're right about the recovery, but.... WHAT? If you think shoulders are only used for shooting then I have to wonder if you've ever played the game.
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Agreed. D1 players are cranking on shoulders in the post, knocking you on drives, diving to the floor, etc.

Much more taxing on a shoulder than practice.
 
husky429 said:
Agreed. D1 players are cranking on shoulders in the post, knocking you on drives, diving to the floor, etc.

Much more taxing on a shoulder than practice.
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Exactly how he injured himself last year. The comparison of any level of college basketball to a pick-up game is beyond ridiculous. I've played with D2-D3 guys who were incredible, forget about the combination of speed, strength, and skills needed to compete at a high major D1 program. Just a really strange comment.
 
WingU-Conn said:
Exactly how he injured himself last year. The comparison of any level of college basketball to a pick-up game is beyond ridiculous. I've played with D2-D3 guys who were incredible, forget about the combination of speed, strength, and skills needed to compete at a high major D1 program. Just a really strange comment.
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Chief always thought the risk of injury was less playing with great players than casual pick-up games with uncoordinated dudes. Just my take and experience.
 
The amount of contact in the lane during a real game versus pick up is night and day. You almost have to on the court to see it, but it's brutal in there.
 
StepbackCity said:
You can’t just say that, his teammates and coaches have stunk. He’s already been on a successful team (2016), and he’s the best player in this league. You can’t fault him for having injured, bad teammates and coaches.
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I'm hoping that Hurley, through the S &C coach, challenges his physical strength and stamina. He needs to be stronger to excel at this level and the next. I'm pretty confident we will see this change and it will bring impressive results. I think this will be seen across the board to varying degrees with all our returning players. It will be imperative to play in Hurley's style of play. We have waited for years for more of an aggressive style of play and I believe, regardless of how far this team goes W-L wise, opponents will know that they were in a fight.
 
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