Airplane etiquette

[August_West]

No guy should ever wear sandals except for on a beach, same goes for tanktops. I would wear shorts every single day if I could.

I mean I have a pair of birkenstocks I wear around during summer.... would NEVER wear them on a plane. ever.

 

[Chin Diesel]

Sandals are perfectly acceptable year round at almost any location- with the caveat of closed-toe and backstrap. I have no problem with them on a plane.
Thong flip flops? whole different story.

 

[storrsroars]

Ran into all 3 in multiples in my 2 flights Sunday.

Look I get it’s hot right now.

Airport terminals and airlines are air conditioned

Commercial air travel 1930s-1970s: Dress for success, respect other passengers and leave good impressions.

Commercial air travel 1980s-present: "I bought my ticket same as you, don't tell me what I can and can't do! I'll drink all I want, recline back, sprawl all over this row and crap in my seat and there's nothing you can do about it. I have rights too!"

 

[Chin Diesel]

Commercial air travel 1930s-1970s: Dress for success, respect other passengers and leave good impressions.

Commercial air travel 1980s-present: "I bought my ticket same as you, don't tell me what I can and can't do! I'll drink all I want, recline back, sprawl all over this row and crap in my seat and there's nothing you can do about it. I have rights too!"

Worse yet. "I know I bought a discount ticket through a third-party agency, and I know I affirmatively acknowledged I cannot bring a carry-on, cannot select my seat ahead of time and will be first to be bumped, but I deserve to board first and bring half my closet with me to stuff in the overhead."

 

[polycom]

Worse yet. "I know I bought a discount ticket through a third-party agency, and I know I affirmatively acknowledged I cannot bring a carry-on, cannot select my seat ahead of time and will be first to be bumped, but I deserve to board first and bring half my closet with me to stuff in the overhead."

These are the worst humans.

 

[Chin Diesel]

These are the worst humans.

The most worsterest.

I don't begrudge travelers who are traveling on different budgets and have different needs. Glad there is an option for them. But don't get all huffy puffy when things go awry and you're the first to be bumped or have to check your carry on at the gate.

 

[Da_Aisijimo_Gou]

Anyone who lives in extremely hot & humid locations for a decade adjusts to sandals, and most men get pretty darn comfortable. Boarding a plane, NFW for potential safety reasons alone. Wear Spartacus sneakers or shoes. And height-limited shorties even way back with the cattle travelers, don't even think of putting your feet on the seat or arm rests on the row in front.

 

[uconndoit]

the following dress etiquette rules need to be followed.

Im 100% serious about the first. Mostly serious about second, can forgive 3rd but shouldnt have to.

For guys:
-NO Tanktops! Nobody wants to see your underarm bush or smell you.
-No sandals - ditto for your nasty feet.
-no shorts - stop rubbing your leg against me.

That's de rigeur in Thailand.

 

[Chin Diesel]

Flying through Charlotte today. Flew in to Charlotte on an American Eagle CRJ-900. Wasn't bad for a commuter jet. All seather were some sort of leather material with decent padding and I had at least 4" of knee room.

Terminal E in Charlotte is a dump.

 

[Guapo]

Flying through Charlotte today. Flew in to Charlotte on an American Eagle CRJ-900. Wasn't bad for a commuter jet. All seather were some sort of leather material with decent padding and I had at least 4" of knee room.

Terminal E in Charlotte is a dump.

CRJ-900's are really pushing the definition of "Commuter Jet"

Not a huge difference between them and the DC-9.

I hestistate to call the E-190's commuter jets as well.

 

[Excalibur]

Worse yet. "I know I bought a discount ticket through a third-party agency, and I know I affirmatively acknowledged I cannot bring a carry-on, cannot select my seat ahead of time and will be first to be bumped, but I deserve to board first and bring half my closet with me to stuff in the overhead."

This is why I have become a total d!c& when I travel. I can't let these people win . . .

 

[Da_Aisijimo_Gou]

This is why I have become a total d!c& when I travel. I can't let these people win . . .

Steer clear of Spirit, Allegiant, Republic, Frontier, JetBlue, Southwest, or even United, American, Delta, and Alaska . Worse, any Chinese airline, AirAsia, or the trash epitomized on the likes of Ryan Air, Vueling, EasyJet, likely Norwegian already or soon, et al. After arriving too late at Glasgow airport for a Belfast flight, here's a quality Glaswegian:

 

[August_West]

So on my trip home at the end of last week I further studied the tank top, flip flop, shorts phenomenon.

It seems that meat heads (You know, work out chad bros) are the offenders of this travesty of airline etiquette. While I have no issue with people taking care of themselves in a gym, and admire and envy it in some small way, the culture these idiots subscribe to sickens me to no end.

Fatties, hippies, uglies, punks, yuppies, 1%'ers, no other demographic deigns to ruin peoples flights like weight lifting meatheads.

Next time you guys are in an airport you will now notice and see how right I am.

 

[polycom]

So on my trip home at the end of last week I further studied the tank top, flip flop, shorts phenomenon.

It seems that meat heads (You know, work out chad bros) are the offenders of this travesty of airline etiquette. While I have no issue with people taking care of themselves in a gym, and admire and envy it in some small way, the culture these idiots subscribe to sickens me to no end.

Fatties, hippies, uglies, punks, yuppies, 1%'ers, no other demographic deigns to ruin peoples flights like weight lifting meatheads.

Next time you guys are in an airport you will now notice and see how right I am.

So tomorrow...I'll look around.

 

[Da_Aisijimo_Gou]

C'mon ADub, it would be remiss to leave out a few too many class acts of all sorts of shapes and physical conditions sporting wife beaters.

 

[August_West]

C'mon ADub, it would be remiss to leave out a few too many class acts of all sorts of shapes and physical conditions sporting wife beaters.

they certainly do Just not on planes.


And these chad meathead losers arent wearing wife beaters is usually like sleeveless replica basketball jerseys or some work out wear deal.

 

[storrsroars]

Steer clear of Spirit, Allegiant, Republic, Frontier, JetBlue, Southwest, or even United, American, Delta, and Alaska . Worse, any Chinese airline, AirAsia, or the trash epitomized on the likes of Ryan Air, Vueling, EasyJet, likely Norwegian already or soon, et al. After arriving too late at Glasgow airport for a Belfast flight, here's a quality Glaswegian:

DAG... you speak Glaswegian? I'm impressed.

I once made the mistake of buying a guy a beer in a pub in Glasgow. Guy followed me around rest of the night like a homeless puppy and wouldn't shut up. I know he was supposedly speaking "English" but damned if I could make out more than 1 in 10 words.

 

[storrsroars]

So on my trip home at the end of last week I further studied the tank top, flip flop, shorts phenomenon.

It seems that meat heads (You know, work out chad bros) are the offenders of this travesty of airline etiquette. While I have no issue with people taking care of themselves in a gym, and admire and envy it in some small way, the culture these idiots subscribe to sickens me to no end.

Fatties, hippies, uglies, punks, yuppies, 1%'ers, no other demographic deigns to ruin peoples flights like weight lifting meatheads.

Next time you guys are in an airport you will now notice and see how right I am.

Not out of red eyes from Vegas or any flights from Orlando.

 

[Da_Aisijimo_Gou]

Not out of red eyes from Vegas or any flights from Orlando.

Nor to/from PGH, your one time Steel City now solidly diversified city. Sorry, not much Glaswegian.

 

[Da_Aisijimo_Gou]

they certainly do Just not on planes. And these chad meathead losers arent wearing wife beaters is usually like sleeveless replica basketball jerseys or some work out wear deal.

Au contraire, they certainly do in planes and airports alike. And, they're absolutely not all replica hoop jerseys. Go a bit south of the Mason-Dixon line, further SW of storrsroars' PGH, or on Vemo/YouTube and they're out there, e.g., transiting via ATL, CLT, DFW, IAH, DIA, SLC, and particularly on Southwest, Spirit, Alliance & other budget airlines. Actually, it's surprising you saw none at DTW.

 

[storrsroars]

Nor to/from PGH, your one time Steel City now solidly diversified city.

Well, we're not a basketball town...

But if you're on a flight to/from here and there isn't one unshaven fat guy wearing a Steelers jersey or Pens sweater and cargo shorts, you are on a unicorn flight.

 

[Da_Aisijimo_Gou]

But if you're on a flight to/from here and there isn't one unshaven fat guy wearing a Steelers jersey or Pens sweater and cargo shorts, you are on a unicorn flight.

Hey, my implied reference to Mountaineers' fans was a failed benefit of the doubt. Then, I recalled Morgantown's actually more south than SW of Pittsburgh and PIT.

 

[Travelman6]

Steer clear of Spirit, Allegiant, Republic, Frontier, JetBlue, Southwest, or even United, American, Delta, and Alaska . Worse, any Chinese airline, AirAsia, or the trash epitomized on the likes of Ryan Air, Vueling, EasyJet, likely Norwegian already or soon, et al. After arriving too late at Glasgow airport for a Belfast flight, here's a quality Glaswegian:

Ryanair is a great airline if you want a roundtrip to a nearby city for the weekend on short notice. Never had an issue with them, but maybe they have gotten worse since I last used them in, like, 2009. I know one gripe ppl might have is they tend to use lesser known airports far outside the city, but that has always been well known. Easyjet I used once or twice, no memories.

I used AirAsia in 2010 and 2011 and they were fine as well at that time, though maybe they have gotten worse or I was lucky. I had no issue with the price from Tianjin to Kuala Lumpur either, that is for sure, as it was 100s cheaper than any other option and allowed me to see Southeast Asia for 10 weeks when I otherwise would not have been able to as a poor recent college grad.

Spirit, used once, no issue, to Bogota, though they are not THAT much cheaper most of the time.

There is, as of now, a dearth of good airlines in the USA, sadly. SW, UA, Delta and their ilk are all awful especially considering the price you pay and the service you get but that is well known at this point. No issues with jetblue though, but they should probably stop claiming they are a discount carrier as their prices tend to be very similar to the other major carriers. Not sure I have ever heard of Alaska.

my fave airlines are Icelandair, Aerlingus, Turkish Airlines and Air France, at least those are my fave now but again, things always change.

 

[Da_Aisijimo_Gou]

AirAsia, Spirit, RyanAir: ranked diarrhea-blast to less shiitey bad, but all rubbish. Inexplicably, some purported humans prefer airlines with known reps for flying older jets, sometimes of lesser maintenance standards than more respected airlines, prefer lower compensated pilots typically with less experience or those who never made the cut with more respected airlines, like negligible leg room, enjoy flying with other trashy people, etc. Or, a traveler's just patently cheap and saving a few shekels may be a higher priority than one's general comfort and potentially life.

Alaska: Aside from an Alaska sub's widely reported Sea-Tac ground crew guy gone wacko stealing a Q400 turbo prop in August, then barrel rolling over Puget Sound and dive bombing himself and plane into an island, ASA's the 5th largest US airline by both passengers flown and fleet size. More importantly, ASA's been widely respected as the overall top-ranked US airline for several years straight. Sadly, the latter's not the highest hurdle.

Good airlines: Sing, Cathay, Thai, Etihad, Emirates (apparently not so much on yesterday's Dubai-JFK flu flight) ... legit Lufthansa and BA flights (not a partner's flight) on good days, Japan and ANA on good days

 

[DarthGrumpy]

Ah, flying, I travel a bit for work and have so many stories about both airlines and people who fly them

• A woman sneaked onto an American plane at BOS and plane technicians had to literally dismantle the bathroom to get her screaming arse off the plane.
• A Mom during an approach into PHL on US Airways in a blizzard grabbed her daughter's portable potty and put it down in the isle isle swearing at the crew that 'she was not stopping X's potty training for nothing' and as soon as the little girl's business was done.
• On a Continental flight from EWR to BOS, I made a flight change at the last minute and rushed the ticket counter ticketing area to my seat on a 737 only to realize after I sat down that they gave me a ticket for a different passenger that did not match my driver's license and that I had gone all the way through security with it
• On another United flight from LHR to EWR on a big 767, at the last second on approach, the plane diverted to the short 6,700 foot East/West runway instead of the main 10,000 foot North/South runway, as I exited the plane I ran into the pilot and told him I did not know a big jet could land on the East/West runway, he looked around and whispered, 'neither did I.'
• Lading at BWI on Southwest, everyone is out of their seat long before the seat belt sign goes off, so the pilot announces to everyone that he has a monitor showing who got up to early and ejected all of their luggage onto the runway, it was amazing to see who many people drove for the nearest window to look
• On a Continental flight from IAH to BOS, we circle the Dallas area to drop fuel because of a mechanical issue that may require an emergency landing only for it to be declared 'fixed' two hours later while still in the air; but, we land in CLE as we used up too much fuel and they decided to have us change planes anyway for cautionary reasons
• While changing flight in IAH on my way from MEX to YYZ, a posh, upper class gentleman from Mexico in US customs pushes his way forward and literally push one lady in a wheelchair out of his way and kicks the cane out of her (assumed) husband's hands declaring his is too important to wait in this line. Two other gentleman and I turn around and face him and he tries to push and curse his way past us until the TSA agents coming up from behind him agree that is too much of an arse to wait in this line and escort him back from some TLC
• Going from SFO to ORD on United with a 2 hour unexpected stop in DEN where the flight was met by some nice men and women from the Denver SWAT team who escorted an idiot off the plan, who was in the row behind me, who had combined a bottle of vodka with a bottle of Xanax decided to get up early in the flight, tried to smoke a joint in the bathroom and then started to strip naked while running down the isle screaming that he was going to crash the plan and kill us all (after 9/11).
• For work because the CEO of a former employer only allowed other C-Suite Executives to fly business, sitting int he last row in coach of a fully loaded United 777-ER for a 17 hour direct flight from BOM to EWR that featured 4 hours of strong turbulence due to effect of a Typhoon rolling into the Himalayas while flying over Afghanistan and Pakistan, which was apparently safer than flying a more westerly route over the Ukraine at the time

 

[storrsroars]

AirAsia, Spirit, RyanAir: ranked diarrhea-blast to less shiitey bad, but all rubbish. Inexplicably, some purported humans prefer airlines with known reps for flying older jets, sometimes of lesser maintenance standards than more respected airlines, prefer lower compensated pilots typically with less experience or those who never made the cut with more respected airlines, like negligible leg room, enjoy flying with other trashy people, etc. Or, a traveler's just patently cheap and saving a few shekels may be a higher priority than one's general comfort and potentially life.

I've never flown RyanAir, but when I was working in Bulgaria, they were running a one way fare equivalent to $29.00 between London and Sofia which was packed full of teenage and college kids each weekend for skiing the local mountains, which were much cheaper to ski than France, Switz or Austria.

I suppose today it's probably more expense for the skis to travel than the person.

 

[polycom]

@August_West at DTW yesterday I didn't see anything crazy.

 

[August_West]

@August_West at DTW yesterday I didn't see anything crazy.

heat is down

 

[8893]

Took Ryan Air with the family for flights from Cardiff to Dublin and from Shannon to London two summers ago. Ridiculously cheap and no problems whatsoever. Clean, pleasant, on-time and a reasonable amount of room for a short flight (coming from someone who is notoriously complaining about not having enough room). Would absolutely use them again for the same purpose.

 

[Travelman6]

Ah, flying, I travel a bit for work and have so many stories about both airlines and people who fly them

• While changing flight in IAH on my way from MEX to YYZ, a posh, upper class gentleman from Mexico in US customs pushes his way forward and literally push one lady in a wheelchair out of his way and kicks the cane out of her (assumed) husband's hands declaring his is too important to wait in this line. Two other gentleman and I turn around and face him and he tries to push and curse his way past us until the TSA agents coming up from behind him agree that is too much of an arse to wait in this line and escort him back from some TLC

That is a pity. So far, everyone I have met in Mexico during my two week vacation in 2014 and my two months currently (I arrived on July 10th and I have been here until today and will remain for at least another 9 or 10 months) have been super nice and accommodating and very polite. I like the co-workers I have gotten to know (at my new job) and find Mexicans to be considerate people. I would say that idiot was an outlier and I hope he did not leave a sour taste in other Americans mouths, so to speak or leave them with negative impressions of the typical Mexican person.

Granted that is "only" a total of 10 weeks direct experience with people of Mexico so far but it is more than likely 99.8% of Americans and I think it paints a good picture. Surely better than that a$$h@t.

Took Ryan Air with the family for flights from Cardiff to Dublin and from Shannon to London two summers ago. Ridiculously cheap and no problems whatsoever. Clean, pleasant, on-time and a reasonable amount of room for a short flight (coming from someone who is notoriously complaining about not having enough room). Would absolutely use them again for the same purpose.

Ditto. I would not explain that airline as being diarrhea blast or whatever. For what it is it is fine. On some routes it is a 50 euro or less ticket on ryanair or 100s of euros on a "better" airline. Some people are young, don't have a lot of money but still want a vacation and have to budget, etc. No reason to judge a person for taking ryanair or trying to look down on them for their reasons for taking it. I used it to go to Italy and Spain and if I recall, Morocco too and it was a great option for a 23 year old fresh out of UNI with the usury student debt I was soon to be burdened with.