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Adama Sanogo Signs with Chicago

Interesting comment and indicative of the evolution of college ball. You probably are right about him, the unprovable, but it probably wouldn’t have hurt UConn for him to stay another year. I’m not convinced having a bunch of guys leave early helps recruiting overall or that it’s good for a program. Winning helps more. Just my old fashioned opinion.
No, having guys leave early to be undrafted or even second round picks (Jackson) doesn't help our recruiting, but it's also the case that from the players' perspective, them coming back only to have a similar or worse draft outcome wasn't a good option.
 
don't forget, there's a chance that his agent arranged for him to go undrafted -- i think a number of undrafted free agents will communicate with teams at the bottom of the second round and inform them that they already have a destination as a UFA and would prefer to go undrafted as opposed to being drafted that low.

that being said, i am not sure that i see a reason why chicago would be a preferred destination (besides the fact that it's a world class city, of course)
 
We have a potential All American big man starting at C for us next year, it was in everyone's best interest for Adama to go to the NBA. This isn't even a debate
Actually you are sucked in by the modern stuff. One little injury and you aren't as smart as you suppose. Ok, UConn is better off next year with four guys gone with remaining eligibility who were the guts of bringing us a title (didn’t win the league or league tournament if I recall) but you are sure Clingan will do it surrounded by mostly untested kids. I hope they can, but it is “debatable” and at this moment in time, unprovable.
 
No, having guys leave early to be undrafted or even second round picks (Jackson) doesn't help our recruiting, but it's also the case that from the players' perspective, them coming back only to have a similar or worse draft outcome wasn't a good option.
Obviously it is better, maybe i guess, from the players perspective and i hope they do well. If you are happy with UConn being an NBA feeder for kids who have eligibility left, fine, but Im a UConn fan first. Really good players leaving before they are fully matured doesnt help UConn the tear after they leave.
 
lol at predictable when a 8-seed made the finals and a 7-seed made the WCF. If you watched the Nuggets, Heat or even Lakers you would see incredible defense and great basketball.

I know some people who don't like ice cream. Not worth the time explaining why they're wrong.
 
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Actually you are sucked in by the modern stuff. One little injury and you aren't as smart as you suppose. Ok, UConn is better off next year with four guys gone with remaining eligibility who were the guts of bringing us a title (didn’t win the league or league tournament if I recall) but you are sure Clingan will do it surrounded by mostly untested kids. I hope they can, but it is “debatable” and at this moment in time, unprovable.
You're right, one little injury does have the potential to change everything. But that's exactly why you need to go to the NBA when you have the chance like Jackson and Sanogo did.

You're living in a fantasy world though, if all you care about is seeing guys stay in college for 4 years then stop being a UConn fan and go root for some low major school with no pro basketball prospects. I'm already questioning your fandom considering you just tried to discredit the achievements of a national championship team
 
Based on his track record, I wouldn't be surprised to see Sanogo absolutely eat in the G League, and that's what it's going to take for him to get NBA minutes. The biggest question mark for him will be proving he can consistently defend 5's at this level.
Problem with the G league for centers is that it's a track fest with guards chucking up shots
 
He accomplished everything he set out to accomplish as a college player and wanted to start his pro career. I can't fault him and
You're right, one little injury does have the potential to change everything. But that's exactly why you need to go to the NBA when you have the chance like Jackson and Sanogo did.

You're living in a fantasy world though, if all you care about is seeing guys stay in college for 4 years then stop being a UConn fan and go root for some low major school with no pro basketball prospects. I'm already questioning your fandom considering you just tried to discredit the achievements of a national championship team
Okay pompous one. Im saying it doesn't help my team. Clearly it helps the player financially, but if you seriously think UCONN has better prospects without a proven talented player, you are a better agent than a fan. Go root for the G league.
 
Obviously it is better, maybe i guess, from the players perspective and i hope they do well. If you are happy with UConn being an NBA feeder for kids who have eligibility left, fine, but Im a UConn fan first. Really good players leaving before they are fully matured doesnt help UConn the tear after they leave.

You want what’s best for you as a fan and not what’s best for the kid. Easier to just say it. Hopefully you’ll get over this in a couple days and start thinking rationally.

(Honestly, hearing some of this rah rah “I’m a UConn fan first” stuff from people who dumped on this team and it’s coach right up until they won the whole thing is pretty ridiculous.)
 
You're right, one little injury does have the potential to change everything. But that's exactly why you need to go to the NBA when you have the chance like Jackson and Sanogo did.

You're living in a fantasy world though, if all you care about is seeing guys stay in college for 4 years then stop being a UConn fan and go root for some low major school with no pro basketball prospects. I'm already questioning your fandom considering you just tried to discredit the achievements of a national championship team
Meant to add, i didnot “discredit” the team. I pointed out a bit of reality. Methinks you are the one living in a fantasy world. I totally get what is happening. Bottom line is players leaving early does not help a program win championships except in fantasyland.
 
Okay pompous one. Im saying it doesn't help my team. Clearly it helps the player financially, but if you seriously think UCONN has better prospects without a proven talented player, you are a better agent than a fan. Go root for the G league.
Nobody is saying it's better for UConn, that's just an incredibly small minded and ignorant view. It would be better for UConn to win championships if every great player we got stayed 4 years. But that's not happening in 2023, 2003, or even 1993.

I can at least understand people who can't get behind a one and done freshman, even if I don't agree. But knocking guys like Jackson and Sanogo who stayed 3 years, and brought us a championship is just insane
 
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Sanogo is eventually going to be a huge piece for some winning team. I don't think Chicago is that team.
 
Interesting comment and indicative of the evolution of college ball. You probably are right about him, the unprovable, but it probably wouldn’t have hurt UConn for him to stay another year. I’m not convinced having a bunch of guys leave early helps recruiting overall or that it’s good for a program. Winning helps more. Just my old fashioned opinion.
The really important thing is for the players to leave when they are most ready, as RIP did after staying the extra year JC suggested.
Considering the trajectory AS was on relative to development of his skills, especially his 3 point %, you raise a good point. Maybe that one more year would have lead to an even higher % of made three's and made him look more attractive. Trouble is we'll never know and can only hope for his sake that he ends up with the right team and coaching.
 
Who the frick said its bad for the kid? If i’m the kids parent i’m doing cartwheels. And I don’t begrudge the kid. It is what it is as they say. I haven't seen one person say a thing to show how it’s better for the prigram. That is all u’m suggesting. .
We sent 3 kids to the NBA who were all ranked outside the top 50. If you can’t see how that reflects well on the program for future recruits, I don’t know what to tell ya
 
Nobody is saying it's better for UConn, that's just an incredibly small minded and ignorant view. It would be better for UConn to win championships if every great player we got stayed 4 years. But that's not happening in 2023, 2003, or even 1993.

I can at least understand people who can't get behind a one and done freshman, even if I don't agree. But knocking guys like Jackson and Sanogo who stayed 3 years, and brought us a championship is just insane
Another dense reply. Show me where i knocked a kid for leaving. I didn’t. I said i din’t see ut as helping the program I root for. Some people salivate over kids leaving early on the theory it helps to recruit other studs. And maybe it does. But if those new studs leave before helping my team to do anything special, it is good for them
Probably, but you still haven’t said how it helps UConn. There are so many posts about Castle being a one and done as if that is good for anyone but him. Hey, great if he is good enough to make UConn really good. But a one and done especially doesn’t float my boat.
 
Sanogo not getting drafted is going to hurt our recruiting? Is everyone on dope?
 
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I hate to say it, but I think Adama’s future is in Europe. Hope he proves me wrong.
 
We sent 3 kids to the NBA who were all ranked outside the top 50. If you can’t see how that reflects well on the program for future recruits, I don’t know what to tell ya
If you can’t see how that is great for the kids but doesn’t do much to help UConn win games next year I don’t know what to tell you. Sure it reflects well on the program. But what really gets my psyched is winning games. It is quite possible none of the kids who left early this year would improve their game or draft situation by staying and Hawkins especially was probably risking too much by staying. Is UConn better without Hawkins next year? Heck , I think Khalid hurt himself by staying. That is not my point.
 
NBA big men don't lack skills that these three have. The skills these three have are not valued. in today's NBA.

Besides, Sanogo is undersized in terms of height, Tshiebwe can't shoot, and Timme is soft.
Sanogo is in that Eric Paschal tweener mold in size and current capability. He may stick around for some years, but yeah he will need to overhaul His game to be a meaningful NBA roster addition.
 
Another dense reply. Show me where i knocked a kid for leaving. I didn’t. I said i din’t see ut as helping the program I root for. Some people salivate over kids leaving early on the theory it helps to recruit other studs. And maybe it does. But if those new studs leave before helping my team to do anything special, it is good for them
Probably, but you still haven’t said how it helps UConn. There are so many posts about Castle being a one and done as if that is good for anyone but him. Hey, great if he is good enough to make UConn really good. But a one and done especially doesn’t float my boat.
Because it's not all about UConn. These kids aren't pawns to move around to make our hopes and wishes come true. These are kids with dreams, and our coaches jobs are to help make those dreams come true. Last night that happened for 3 of them
 
Possibly the Hurley-Donovan connection is why Adama is with the Bulls. I'm not going to doubt Adama. Unmatched work ethic. I think he'll find a way to stick in the league. Could he turn himself into a Paul Milsap kind of player?
 
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NBA big men don't lack skills that these three have. The skills these three have are not valued. in today's NBA.

Besides, Sanogo is undersized in terms of height, Tshiebwe can't shoot, and Timme is soft.
Best post of the thread. These three have huge deficiencies to overcome and it makes sense for an NBA team to prefer players without these deficiencies, as they're abundant in the best basketball league on the planet. We'll see if they're able to overcome them or if they're overstated, but on the whole NBA talent evaluators are pretty good.
 
Best post of the thread. These three have huge deficiencies to overcome and it makes sense for an NBA team to prefer players without these deficiencies, as they're abundant in the best basketball league on the planet. We'll see if they're able to overcome them or if they're overstated, but on the whole NBA talent evaluators are pretty good.
One thing I'd do if I was Sanogo is get with a top speed and agility trainer to improve his vertical jump and speed off the ground. I've seen first hand what that kind of specialized training can do. Easily 6 inches of vertical jump improvement are possible. He plays a bit below the rim and the NBA is an above the rim league. If he's already done such training and maxed out, it is what it is.
 
Unfortunately for Adama, he spent most of his time at UConn with his back to the basket, showcasing amazing footwork and post scoring moves. It wasn't until late last year that he flashed the face-up game the NBA requires of anybody under 7', and the ability to guard in space that modern bigs have to have. I am confident that Adama has and will further develop those skills and not drafting him will look like a mistake.
Yup, and man was he dominant and efficient doing it.

Him and Andre weren’t really used to their best abilities until late in their last year and when they were, it won us a championship.

Hopefully they continue to build on the momentum they had in summer league and it makes a way for them to be contributors on an NBA roster.
 
But yet Jarace Walker and Derek Lively go 8 and 12 respectively. Lively was pretty awful the first half of the season. Was just ok by the end of the year.
The NBA doesn’t really want skilled big men unless you can legit be one of the best scorers in the league.

Outside of that they just need them to rim run, block shots, rebound, and dunk. Keep it simple.
 
Obviously it is better, maybe i guess, from the players perspective and i hope they do well. If you are happy with UConn being an NBA feeder for kids who have eligibility left, fine, but Im a UConn fan first. Really good players leaving before they are fully matured doesnt help UConn the tear after they leave.
Of course as a UConn fan I would prefer that our stars stay through their complete eligibility, but I'm not losing sleep over guys who clearly accomplished as much as they were going to here and are ready to start their career, as limited as it may be.
 
Unless you're a significantly below replacement level basketball coach (read: Calipari), you're going to be a good college team if you're producing NBA players. The more NBA players we produce, the more likely it is that we have had a good team.
 
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