Adama Sanogo Signs with Chicago

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Sanogo leaving was best for all parties involved. Him coming back does not mean another championship. Especially if you have to find a way to play him and DC together.

It went bad with Andre and AO, it didn’t work with Sanogo and Whaley, don’t think much would change with Clingan and Sanogo. This is the natural progression of a healthy program. I’m ready to watch Sanogo kill summer league and force a GM to give him a chance to play. Then force a coach to have to give him minutes. Until he’s a story of the hardworking unlikely NBA contributor.

 

[navery12]

Okay genious. A little true story. One of my kids made a fortune in the entertainment business to where he retired in his early 40s to help raise his kids. I asked him very recently if his (expensive) college degree did anything for him given the skills he had before he set foot on csmpus. Meaning. I’m not convinced college is necessary for certain future occupations. I repeat, obviously it is great for these players to be able to leave early. But when it comes to winning or losing UConn games. if its not about UConn what program is it about? There are a crapload of fair weather fans who jump ship if the team is mediocre regardless of how well a former player does in the pros. I’m guessing you are on the BY because you care about the program regardless of who walks through the door to wear the unifirm.

You're entirely missing the point, which has been explained to you dozens of times now. I'm not even sure why I'm still bothering. Maybe if I type in capital letters you'll understand. NOBODY IS SAYING PLAYERS LEAVING EARLY HELPS UCONN. The only thing we're saying is that when you get good players they move on to the next level eventually. Despite what you want to believe, the world does not revolve around UConn basketball, and players have goals beyond making UConn basketball fans the happiest they can possibly be

 

[cohenzone]

Of course as a UConn fan I would prefer that our stars stay through their complete eligibility, but I'm not losing sleep over guys who clearly accomplished as much as they were going to here and are ready to start their career, as limited as it may be.

And i never said they shouldn’t leave (even though some are not NBA ready). It’s their lives. My point is rather narrow. Let’s just say i think the team the next year is probably ahead of the game with them compared to without them usually regardless of who comes in the door. Obviously unknowable, but talented experience isn’t a minus.

 

[wingsfan055]

Worst case is Adama can make a ton of money playing in Europe. I do think the NBA is his dream and will give it a shot. Really surprised a team didn't grab him late in the 2nd round given what he did in the Tournament. He has skills

 

[husky429]

And i never said they shouldn’t leave (even though some are not NBA ready). It’s their lives. My point is rather narrow. Let’s just say i think the team the next year is probably ahead of the game with them compared to without them usually regardless of who comes in the door. Obviously unknowable, but talented experience isn’t a minus.

You've narrowed your point so much (read: changing the goalpost) that it's basically meaningless. Good players would mean we win more... yes.

 

[tuvent08]

As often happens here, this turned into some weird thought experiment that is not remotely tethered to reality.

It’s absolutely true that if Victor Wembanyama committed to UConn, I believe we would be a better basketball team in his senior season than if he declared for the draft after his junior year.

 

[cohenzone]

You're entirely missing the point, which has been explained to you dozens of times now. I'm not even sure why I'm still bothering. Maybe if I type in capital letters you'll understand. NOBODY IS SAYING PLAYERS LEAVING EARLY HELPS UCONN. The only thing we're saying is that when you get good players they move on to the next level eventually. Despite what you want to believe, the world does not revolve around UConn basketball, and players have goals beyond making UConn basketball fans the happiest they can possibly be

Who said the world revolves around UConn anything. Another comprehension challenged person. But my interest is in UConn and has zip to do with not understanding why kids leave early or not wishing them well. And there are in fact a whole lot of BYers who think kids leaving early is good for the program because they think it will produce better recruits (who will leave early) on the premise that all by itself it helps the program. Do you agree with them?

 

[eos91]

Praying for the Drummond sanogo lineup

I think most second rounders would be excited to get a 2-way, so in many ways this is a better outcome going to a team that really wants him and that he is choosing.

 

[KingAG]

If you can’t see how that is great for the kids but doesn’t do much to help UConn win games next year I don’t know what to tell you. Sure it reflects well on the program. But what really gets my psyched is winning games. It is quite possible none of the kids who left early this year would improve their game or draft situation by staying and Hawkins especially was probably risking too much by staying. Is UConn better without Hawkins next year? Heck , I think Khalid hurt himself by staying. That is not my point.

Dude. Huh?

 

[cohenzone]

You've narrowed your point so much (read: changing the goalpost) that it's basically meaningless.

Actually I didn’t. My point was always the same. You are as knowledgeable as any. Is UConn more or less likely better off next year than this based on who left early? How have early departures helped recruiting? The incoming supposedly great class all committed before we won the NC, and most after a year when half the BY wanted to fire Hurley for a few first round NCAA losses

 

[navery12]

Who said the world revolves around UConn anything. Another comprehension challenged person. But my interest is in UConn and has zip to do with not understanding why kids leave early or not wishing them well. And there are in fact a whole lot of BYers who think kids leaving early is good for the program because they think it will produce better recruits (who will leave early) on the premise that all by itself it helps the program. Do you agree with them?

You've acted like the world revolves around UConn with all of your posts this morning that completely ignore the bigger picture. You can't comprehend players making a decision for any reason other than what gives UConn Men's Basketball the best chances at a championship next season

You've moved the goalposts so many times in this discussion, so I'm out.

 

[KingAG]

Who said the world revolves around UConn anything. Another comprehension challenged person. But my interest is in UConn and has zip to do with not understanding why kids leave early or not wishing them well. And there are in fact a whole lot of BYers who think kids leaving early is good for the program because they think it will produce better recruits (who will leave early) on the premise that all by itself it helps the program. Do you agree with them?

Pros don’t stay 4 years. If you want to continue to recruit the best players you need to show a track record of getting guys to the league. Bouk, Hawk, rese, and Ajax leaving early and getting drafted helps us recruit the best players. You need the best players to win championships. It’s not hard.

We may not get Hawk without Bouk being a lotto pick. Without Hawk there is no championship. So I could reason that Bouk being a lottery pick helped us win a championship. Ahmad Nowell was quoted saying that the way UConn gets their guys to the league is a big reason why he’s considering them. And he isn’t the only one.

 

[husky429]

Actually I didn’t. My point was always the same. You are as knowledgeable as any. Is UConn more or less likely better off next year than this based on who left early? How have early departures helped recruiting? The incoming supposedly great class all committed before we won the NC, and most after a year when half the BY wanted to fire Hurley for a few first round NCAA losses

I was an argumentative little POS as a teenager. My mother told me something I remember to this day: If EVERYONE is telling you that you're wrong, there's a good chance you need to shut up and look in the mirror.

Yes, UConn would win more games if no one declared for the draft. No duh. It's also good for the long-term health of the program if players are going to the next level and being successful.

The early departures happened 2 months ago and they were drafted 12 hours ago. We won't know the recruiting benefits for a while. Let's chat in November

 

[cohenzone]

Pros don’t stay 4 years. If you want to continue to recruit the best players you need to show a track record of getting guys to the league. Bouk, Hawk, rese, and Ajax leaving early and getting drafted helps us recruit the best players. You need the best players to win championships. It’s not hard.

We may not get Hawk without Bouk being a lotto pick. Without Hawk there is no championship. So I couldason that Bouk being a lottery pick helped us win a championship. Ahmad Nowell was quoted saying that the way UConn gets their guys to the league is a big reason why he’s considering them. And he isn’t the only one.

And i could argue that UConn would have been better last season with Bouknight, the year people wanted to hang Hurley.

 

[KingAG]

And i could argue that UConn would have been better last season with Bouknight, the year people wanted to hang Hurkey.

Good Lord. What’s better than a championship? I think this system you detest worked to perfection.

Bring in good players, develop said players, win with good players, send good players to the league. Repeat.

Also if you’re a “UConn fan” then our guys getting drafted early is a success for UConn. We don’t stop rooting for these guys once they leave campus. It’s a family and they’re huskies forever. The success they have after leaving campus is our success. The problem is you’re using winning Cbb games as your sole measurement of success and its narrow minded. If you’re a fan of these kids and the program then your support and excitement would extend far beyond what they did in Storrs, CT.

How about showing some gratitude and saying thank you instead of demanding more. These kids brought you so much joy and entertainment and the only thing you can think about is how much more they can give you/us. They don’t owe us another got **** thing. They juggled being a college student and a high major D1 athlete in a small state where they were the target of criticism and sky high expectations. They were tasked with pulling this program that you love from out of the ashes. And what did they do? They freaking crushed it and won us a National freaking Championship. What more could you possibly want from them. Their first born?

 

[Greg]

He is such a hard worker, I think hecwill prove to be a steal. I think he and Jackson are better players than some picked ahead of them.

 

[Deleted at users request]

Good Lord. What’s better than a championship? I think this system you detest worked to perfection.

Bring in good players, develop said players, win with good players, send good players to the league. Repeat.

Also if you’re a “UConn fan” then our guys getting drafted early is a success for UConn. We don’t stop rooting for these guys once they leave campus. It’s a family and they’re huskies forever. The success they have after leaving campus is our success. The problem is you’re using winning Cbb games as your sole measurement of success and its narrow minded. If you’re a fan of these kids and the program then your support and excitement would extend far beyond what they did in Storrs, CT.

I agree with you but I think he’s talking about the year before with Bouknight.

 

[cohenzone]

I was an argumentative little POS as a teenager. My mother told me something I remember to this day: If EVERYONE is telling you that you're wrong, there's a good chance you need to shut up and look in the mirror.

Yes, UConn would win more games if no one declared for the draft. No duh. It's also good for the long-term health of the program if players are going to the next level and being successful.

The early departures happened 2 months ago and they were drafted 12 hours ago. We won't know the recruiting benefits for a while. Let's chat in November

It kind of depends on how you define health of the program. A bunch of people were pretty down on Hurley even after a few straight NCAA tournament early departures. They were in the tornanent after all. I remember a few Calhoun teams that made only the NIT and he had to chastise the fan base for not showing up to those tournament games Not arguing, just offering a thought that people do kind of care year by year as they judge the health of the team by what the results are on the floor. Looking forward to next year and hope the bew kids are great. .

 

[cohenzone]

Good Lord. What’s better than a championship? I think this system you detest worked to perfection.

Bring in good players, develop said players, win with good players, send good players to the league. Repeat.

Also if you’re a “UConn fan” then our guys getting drafted early is a success for UConn. We don’t stop rooting for these guys once they leave campus. It’s a family and they’re huskies forever. The success they have after leaving campus is our success. The problem is you’re using winning Cbb games as your sole measurement of success and its narrow minded. If you’re a fan of these kids and the program then your support and excitement would extend far beyond what they did in Storrs, CT.

I said last year, not this year. Good lord. As in the year half the BY wanted to hang Hurley for the 1st round NCAA loss. Were you one of them? Who didn’t wish Bouknight well? But folks can’t have it both ways. Wishing a person well is not the same as thinking a team can do just as well without them.

 

[Inyatkin]

Yikes, not even a second round pick.

Another year wouldn't have made a difference.

Why the negative spin? There was always a good chance he wouldn't get drafted. And he signed with a team within hours.

 

[aburks41]

Problem with the G league for centers is that it's a track fest with guards chucking up shots

Is it wrong that I don't think that is necessarily a bad thing for Sanogo? Maybe it doesn't fit his style right now, but if he wants to be a steady NBA player, he needs to continue adapting and improving on the skillsets that the NBA is looking for, so that will be a good test for him.

I don't know anything about the Bulls situation though. Do they need help down low or is he like their 5th option at this point?

 

[QDOG5]

 

[Tenspro2002]

Why the negative spin? There was always a good chance he wouldn't get drafted. And he signed with a team within hours.

Most projections had him around #50. He was the 10th or so best player on the board starting around pick #40.

The 2-way contract is fine, and I always expected him to end up in Europe anyway, but this was like a 20th percentile outcome for Sanogo.

Jackson was maybe 40th percentile. Hawkins like 80th percentile.

 

[Dove]

Chitown will soon know The Sanogo Way.

 

[cohenzone]

The players are the program. Having NBA players is the sign of a healthy program

Ok sport. So if UConn has an average year in the next year or two be sure to quote yourself and don’t complain. I stand by what I said. People typically judge a program by production on the floor, right? We have had a fair number of early departures followed by years when a whole lot of fans did not consider the program to be what they thought it should be. Including end of January this year. Which is pretty much believing the “program”isn’t up to snuff overall. Were you among them?

 

[HuskyHawk]

I said last year, not this year. Good lord. As in the year half the BY wanted to hang Hurley for the 1st round NCAA loss. Were you one of them? Who didn’t wish Bouknight well? But folks can’t have it both ways. Wishing a person well is not the same as thinking a team can do just as well without them.

It's not our choice to make. The transfer portal is the same. You won't see many 4 year/senior players that are actually good anymore. That's going to be rare. It's amazing we have Newton coming back.

Would we be better with Bouk? Probably, unless it meant Hawk wouldn't have committed. Better with Hawk next year? Of course, but none of the kids we are recruiting would have come.

The model now is that you recruit freshmen. As they develop they either (a) go pro (b) stay (c) transfer out or (d) lose eligibility. The portal and new freshmen are used to replace the kids that leave for the NBA or via the portal. We got three transfers last year, two freshmen. This year, just one transfer and 5 freshmen. Next year?

 

[Scot-e]

Enough cranky old man interactions. Lord.
Can’t we all agree we want him to prove everyone wrong and have a long successful career?
Thank God we won a natty or this place would have been a SS all off season.

 

[KingAG]

Ok sport. So if UConn has an average year in the next year or two be sure to quote yourself and don’t complain. I stand by what I said. People typically judge a program by production on the floor, right? We have had a fair number of early departures followed by years when a whole lot of fans did not consider the program to be what they thought it should be. Including end of January this year. Which is pretty much believing the “program”isn’t up to snuff overall. Were you among them?

You must not be familiar with my track record. I got called out for being too positive. Use that angle on somebody else lmao

 

[BigErnMcCracken]

Ok sport. So if UConn has an average year in the next year or two be sure to quote yourself and don’t complain. I stand by what I said. People typically judge a program by production on the floor, right? We have had a fair number of early departures followed by years when a whole lot of fans did not consider the program to be what they thought it should be. Including end of January this year. Which is pretty much believing the “program”isn’t up to snuff overall. Were you among them?

What is the point that's being argued? That UConn would be better next year if Adama was on the roster? I think we can all stipulate to that and be done with this conversation.

 

[nomar]

Congrats Adama! Just checked Chicago’s G League roster and they have 5 guys that are 6’8 or higher. Adama has a tough road ahead of him, but he’s such a hard worker and now he has a chip on his shoulder. I will never doubt him, and have full confidence he will work his way into a successful basketball career

According to Bulls fans, none of those guys is standing in Adama's way.

He definitely has his work cut out for him, but he obviously chose the Bulls for a reason.