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[Dann]

I understand your desire to have the football field on campus, and I think that it would have been better if it was on campus (not that this has anything to do with turning Gampel into anything other than the mecca of basketball that it is today). I think the main problem for that really is the fact that there is no good road to funnel in 40,000+ people onto campus. Yes, the town has something to do with that, but it is in large part due to the fact that 40,000 people would shut Rt. 195 down. If they could build a better highway in and out, I think that UConn has plenty of land on campus and would have / should have done it. The allure of East Hartford was that it was serviced by I-84, I-91, Rt 2, Rt. 15, and I-384, so there was plenty of capability to get that many people in and out.

There is no doubt in my mind that having a football stadium on campus increases butts in the seats and makes for a more hostile home environment, especially during mediocre years where the "fair-weather" people stay home. But Gampel is hallowed ground, my friend...

i understand your position that gampel is hallowed ground. i 2 see that as a important part of uconn history. but to be honest i dont put gampel in the same list as pauley/dean/ass/rupp etc... its way smaller than others and for the most part isn't a old historic place like others. when i think of the top 15 programs all time i think something like this. uk/kan/unc/duke/ind/ucla/uconn/msu/az/cuse/lville/fl/gt/tosu/wash. something like that atleast close wise. gampel doesn't match up at all with those other programs and while its a nice piece of history here in ct, we shouldnt think that it should be a end building for us for years to come. if our fball is goin got be in hartford for the next 30 years atleast, our bball might as well be at least split if not also in hartford mostly. yes thats coming from me who is a on campus 100% guy and students are the future fans etc.... its just how it is right now for us, our fanbase $$ wise and this state. gampel is the future of uconn puck if ppl can see the vision. i think that this was actually up for debate pre rent thoughts in the uconn ideas for building facilities up.

 

[Adios]

Our stadium in East Hartford seems to be doing fine. Southern California and UCLA do not play on campus.

 

[UConnDan97]

i understand your position that gampel is hallowed ground. i 2 see that as a important part of uconn history. but to be honest i dont put gampel in the same list as pauley/dean/ass/rupp etc... its way smaller than others and for the most part isn't a old historic place like others. when i think of the top 15 programs all time i think something like this. uk/kan/unc/duke/ind/ucla/uconn/msu/az/cuse/lville/fl/gt/tosu/wash. something like that atleast close wise. gampel doesn't match up at all with those other programs and while its a nice piece of history here in ct, we shouldnt think that it should be a end building for us for years to come. if our fball is goin got be in hartford for the next 30 years atleast, our bball might as well be at least split if not also in hartford mostly. yes thats coming from me who is a on campus 100% guy and students are the future fans etc.... its just how it is right now for us, our fanbase $$ wise and this state. gampel is the future of uconn puck if ppl can see the vision. i think that this was actually up for debate pre rent thoughts in the uconn ideas for building facilities up.

The reason that you feel that the other stadiums are more important than Gampel is EXACTLY because we play games at the XL Center! Many of our big games in the past have been in Hartford. For the same reasons that I would ideally love to have the football stadium on campus, I would also like to have all the basketball games on campus. If Gampel was turned into a hockey arena, I think I would be in danger of poking my own eyes out...

 

[UConnDan97]

Our stadium in East Hartford seems to be doing fine. Southern California and UCLA do not play on campus.

Butchy, you just named two teams who play in a greater metropolitan area with a population of about 12 million. The entire state of Connecticut is 3.5 million. Yeah, USC and UCLA will be fine by not being on campus...

 

[Adios]

The problem with sporting events being on-campus is accessibility. The campus is way off I-84. Much longer trip for many than to the XL Center or the Rent. Isn't Louisville's arena off-campus?

 

[UConnDan97]

By the way, let me be clear; I don't believe that in my lifetime the football stadium will be on campus. I think the Rent is our new home, and I happen to love the home. If it does truly have the capability for expansion that everybody says the structure has, then I think we are well positioned to grow in that stadium. Especially due to the easy access from all parts of the state and other states as well.

 

[Adios]

Butchy, you just named two teams who play in a greater metropolitan area with a population of about 12 million. The entire state of Connecticut is 3.5 million. Yeah, USC and UCLA will be fine by not being on campus...

I am sure there are more. UConn is not located ideally for sporting events compared to some other BCS/FBS schools. If I-84 was right next to UConn or if UConn was closer to Hartford, then it would make a lot more sense.

 

[UConnDan97]

I am sure there are more. UConn is not located ideally for sporting events compared to some other BCS/FBS schools. If I-84 was right next to UConn or if UConn was closer to Hartford, then it would make a lot more sense.

Agreed. A few posts ago, I commented that 40,000 people in and out of I-195 in Storrs would shut the town down.

 

[Dann]

we need a route 7 type connector from 84 to campus. that type of thing would be gold up on campus but the locals will never go for it. thats what holds us back. take 384 and go west 10 more miles(w/e the miles is). then loop it north to 84 like up 195 or something for a half circle that would make a nice connector. ahh #uconndreams

 

[kingdobbs]

-ripup the floor at gampel and put a rink. not that expensive compared to building a arena. gampel becomes a 8k rink. thats plenty for d1 puck in ct for as long as the program goes.

Gampel is a non-starter as far as a hockey facility goes.

Retrofitting Gampel for ice would basically be a complete rebuild of the facility. They'd have to tear out all of the below-level office space, lose a couple thousand seats, and the resulting facility would be, frankly, horrible for hockey because it's built with basketball sightlines.

That's without even getting into the problems of practice time (which would basically necessitate Frietas still standing, meaning that the university is now maintaining TWO ice rinks), being at-best the third priority for scheduling, and the overwhelming "Mullins problem", in reference to the fact that UMass plays their home games in a similar hybrid facility and it's almost always half-empty for hockey. There's just so much empty space, and it harms the game day experience.

 

[Marty Jackson]

isn't there a move by Baldwin to make Hartford CT the college hockey capital by creating an outdoor tourney?
Would make sense to have Uconn a part of that and even anchor it.

 

[Marty Jackson]

there is a reason Umass is going to play their games in Gillette and not in Amherst.
I am pretty sure the school is looking at where their alumni reside as well. Mass is a little more severe than CT, but in both cases you have State Universities in the rural section of the state, and not anywhere near the economic hub that the alumni call home. you can invest millions for an on campus facility and hope people travel, or you can bring the games to the fan base. In Uconn's case, having games at Gampel and in Hartford seems to work (current students and alumn's)...

 

[zls44]

Gampel is a non-starter as far as a hockey facility goes.

Retrofitting Gampel for ice would basically be a complete rebuild of the facility. They'd have to tear out all of the below-level office space, lose a couple thousand seats, and the resulting facility would be, frankly, horrible for hockey because it's built with basketball sightlines.

That's without even getting into the problems of practice time (which would basically necessitate Frietas still standing, meaning that the university is now maintaining TWO ice rinks), being at-best the third priority for scheduling, and the overwhelming "Mullins problem", in reference to the fact that UMass plays their home games in a similar hybrid facility and it's almost always half-empty for hockey. There's just so much empty space, and it harms the game day experience.

Yeah, but other than that...

 

[businesslawyer]

[Sigh.] Those numbers are from Nielson.........you know, the company that tracks TV trends & viewership nationwide. They are provided w/in the industry on a daily basis, and are currently sitting on my computer in pdf form. If other websites are regurgitating them, then that's where they came from. I would imagine they were leaked from Nielson's recent year-end report on the state of sports viewership, which is where I got them from.

As for the #s themselves, they represent the average number of viewers for each conference (divided out by sport). My apologies for not stating that in my previous post. The SEC averaged 4.45M viewers per football game. That is NOT 9% of the US population.

As for the Big XII's contract...........I am amazed that for someone who's so hell bent on disproving who I am, you know so little about network sports contracts. For Tier 1 & Tier 2 programing, the market a team is in has minimal impact on the overall value that team has to a network contract. The most important variable is two-part: (a) the number of markets tuned in, and (b) the number of sets turned on. There is an algorithm that looks at total markets, total sets, national market share, regional market share, and length of viewership (i.e. how long someone has the TV tuned into the game). Colorado is and has been, dead weight for the Big XII. It doesn't matter that they're "in" the Denver market. Fans don't tune in. In the 6 years I've been at my job, they have never ranked higher than 8th in TV viewership in the Big XII. Their value to the Pac-12 was simply that while CU doesn't turn on sets, there are a ton of Californians in Colorado who would tune in to watch Pac-12 games. And, when Pac-12 games are on, CO isn't a state that gets Pac-12 coverage (unless there isn't a competing Big XII game). So, CU gives them entrance into a market they wouldn't always have otherwise.

Missouri was similar to Colorado in that they are not very popular in their home DMA. And, that's one of the reason they weren't amongst the SEC's top 10 choices for expansion. But, their fans do tune in significantly better than do CU's fans. And, it's a market that SEC games often aren't broadcast in when up against Big XII games (same as the Pac-12 and CO before adding CU). So, they expand the conference's viewership footprint.

The Big XII didn't "lose" any major markets, they simply lost priority coverage in St. Louis & Denver, and the viewers each team drew. The two big losses were actually Nebraska and Texas A&M. Nebraska's fans would watch anything Big XII related. So, even when Nebraska wasn't playing in the game on TV, they'd tune in. It's one of the reasons they're such a valuable entity. A&M was similar, but more watered down. That's largely b/c being a Nebraska fan is a matter of birth, while being an A&M fan is more a matter of having attended college there. So, there are far more Nebraska fans than A&M fans, despite the fact that A&M is in a larger state. FWIW, West Virginia out draws all of the teams the Big XII lost, except for Nebraska. Now, what we won't know until they start playing in the Big XII is if there is any cross-marketing; meaning, if WVU isn't playing, whether their fans will tune in. That's what makes Texas, Oklahoma, Nebraska, and to a lesser extent, A&M so valuable to a TV contract......b/c you're not just getting their fans when they're on the TV, you're getting their fans when any quality Big XII game is on the TV (this is also why the SEC & Big Ten dominate, b/c they're fans are even more rabid in their viewership). TCU, is much like Boise State in that they actually draw decently well on a national scale, but not as strong regionally. That's due in large part b/c of the novelty factor that successful mid-majors present. If TCU performs poorly (same with BSU), their viewership will tank, b/c they don't have large fan bases. So, TCU could be a better draw than CU & Missouri, but could also be worse. In the end, the Big XII lost in terms of "value added" to their TV contract........just not as much as you'd expect.

And dude, seriously, stop running around trying to grasp onto anything you can to justify branding me a fraud. A week before it happened, I posted on this board how much the Big XII would get out of their ABC/ESPN deal, and what the total payout would be per team. Do you think I just "guessed" right? Come on! Babe Ruth would have applauded calling that shot. Yet, you still are grasping at straws, trying to find some way to distort & contort my words, so you can make yourself believe I don't know what I'm talking about, so thereby, your own theories/logic won't be proven faulty. Do you really think some guy off the street would know as much, and have as much insight into sports network contracts, valuations, etc as I have? If it wouldn't get me in hot water, I'd gladly give you deeper insight and information, all of which could corroborate who I am and what I do for a living. But, that's not going to happen. So, rather than taking every post I make and trying to twist it into something it's not, how about you engage in actual dialog. I've thrown insight after insight after you, and repeatedly you ignore the meat of my posts and toss back some sort of fraud reference.

Well, we know that analysis isn't right. Because, if it was there would be an advantage to Big East football schools to retain a tie to the Big East catholic schools in major markets, and we've been told forever by screamers on this board that there is no benefit to the connection.

 

[junglehusky]

Wasn't 384 originally going to go from Hartford to Providence, but then they changed their mind / ran out of funding (or maybe ran into a NIMBY faction, like what happened with the Hartford loop that resulted in the Farmington/West Hartford Haystack)? That would have possibly been a fun alternate history of the UConn campus and UConn sports.

 

[Carl Spackler]

Wasn't 384 originally going to go from Hartford to Providence, but then they changed their mind / ran out of funding (or maybe ran into a NIMBY faction, like what happened with the Hartford loop that resulted in the Farmington/West Hartford Haystack)? That would have possibly been a fun alternate history of the UConn campus and UConn sports.

I don't know the reasons how or why it never was completed, but this is absolutely correct. I'm pretty sure it was the Rhode Island DOT that shut the project attempts down and ended up changing all the originally intended interstate plans for the northeast, CT was ready to take a highway from Hartford to the RI border, all along, and still would I think.

I read something a while back on this regarding the traffic along I-95. I-95 is a traffic volume nightmare from NYC through CT and is a major issue in Fairfield Cty and all the way up to New London/Groton. A second route through CT to reach RI and then up to Boston is basically the only way to fix any of the problems. There needs to be an interstate connecting HArtford to Providence to by-pass I-95, as was originally intended.

If I remember correctly, the section of highway north/east of Hartford wasn't even called I-84, I think it was I-86. (I'm not that old either) I don't remember when it happened, but I-84 up to the Mass PIke I-90 wasn't supposed to be that way - it was I-86 or I-82 or something and was supposed to head up through NH to Portland. I-84 was supposed to go through Harford to Providence. I-84 was originally intended to be a direct route from Pennsylvania through NY State, CT and ending in Providence. 384 was the CT effort to finish that project and then MA and the other NE states reconfigured too.

 

[epark88]

You remember correctly, Carl...

 

[SubbaBub]

Move the campus to East Hartford.

 

[UConnDan97]

Move the campus to East Hartford.

That's part of the UConn 3000 project. You're getting ahead of yourself.

 

[HartbeatHusky]

Move the campus to East Hartford.

All jokes aside I've thought that the Greater Hartford Campus should be moved to Rentschler Field since I first saw the master plan for the area. That way UConn could technically have an on-campus stadium and a brand new Greater Hartford Campus.

 

[Dann]

NYC THEORY: NYC is the root of all evil and when someone in the ACC office wakes up and see the potential, all hell will break loose, but all will eventually be solved…

Let’s talk about NYC. There’s only a certain % that pays attention to college sports. You have to fully grab it or you just don't own it and not enough care.

If the ACC instead of half assing everything grabbed the whole market, things would be different. Someone has to have the balls to be the first to 16 or 18 and not sit and be poached. The issue is grab half and you will at most only get half the eyeballs but you risk pissing that half off because there not entertained by what’s left to see. You grab everyone, makes everyone happy and rivals come alive, u start a turf war and plan accordingly. You capture the whole market. Then over time that market expands with a successful product.

Right now the acc has half of NYC and the BE has half and then there’s ND. That’s a ugly split. No huge rivals going on and no togetherness from fans liking something. It causes a mishmosh of views that don't help any of the schools in the long run if it stays like this. Until the ACC adds 75% of the northeast or more, NYC will be no ones and more importantly without that northern group of schools hating the crap out of each other they will all slowly die BC style...

We have all heard the ND rumors about how they want to play on the east coast and yea it’s pretty obvious considering their recent ooc looks. I would bet that they aren’t sold 100% on the ACC because they are worried that the commissioner doesn’t have the balls to lock the whole coast up and therefore they don’t want to go to a conference where they could lose teams to the SEC/B10/B12. Just imagine if ND went to the ACC finally and then the next day the SEC grabbed VT/NCST and the B10 grabbed UVA/MD. ND would be up in flames. They bring a lot of money to the table which would hopefully be enough for a stable conference where teams didn’t leave, but if you grab the whole northeast, then you’re talking stability and good money.

What is the closest ACC school miles wise to NYC right now? BC? Cuse? Pitt? MD?
Rutgers/PSU/UConn would all be closer right?
What schools have the biggest alum chapters in NYC?
NYC tvs follow ND, PSU, Ruty/Cuse/UConn, MD, UVA/VT, BC. See where I’m going here????
Something doesn't add up….

The ACC needs to grow a sack for east coast football/all college sports or fall victim to the b4, make a stand this summer or forever sit and worry. FSU/Clem and others are checking the b12 out and the sec loves those 2 new markets in NC/VA. Either the ACC does something crazy/proactive or it’s over soon for that conf. Go out fighting right??? I would! I think that’s why we sat still. We didn't want to join a mess; we were only willing to join if everyone went and made it a solid landing spot and that didn’t happen because the ACC didn’t think big picture/outside the box. They just got a little worried and flinched.

Prestigious division-miami/gt/wake/duke/vt/pitt/cuse/bc/nd
Public division-fsu/clem/nc/ncst/uva/md/ruty/uconn/psu

-Play your 8 conf games in football plus 1 rival form the other division for 9(duke-unc/uconn-bc/nd-psu/fsu-u.....).

-In basketball play your round robin of 17 games plus 1 rival. Same as the football rivals^. makes everyone happy.

-This is the best lax/soccer/baseball etc conf ever to boot. Also puck can become interesting (ND/PSU/BC/UConn) all in HE maybe? Or w/e....

-Adding the rest of the NYC area, PSU and ND brings the big time tv $$ that this conference needs to stay alive. It covers the whole east coast and doesn't let any other conf touch some of the biggest tv markets there are. The B10 stops in Ohio. the SEC doesn’t touch NC. DC-PHili-NYC are the ACC’s now, time to now develop them into college markets….
-They wait till 2020 to grab MSG from the BE+A10 group of basketball onlys. Now they play there ACCt in MSG every year and its hot shit on ESPN all day. Just imagine the way they do up the BET every year, just add Duke/UNC and some other big names to it. HUGE!!! All the local big boy teams plus big names like Duke/UNC/ND/FSU/MD coming to town once a year. Gravy train!!!

-Play your acc ship game for the BCS playoff bid at the higher ranked teams place so it’s always a sellout and boom....now you have a freaking east coast conference that matters.

-18 works. Because during football season u can make a deal with ESPN/ABC to have a Friday night game every week and not hurt your Saturday numbers. With adding those teams/fan bases/markets, there is enough $$ to go around so that every team is getting $20mil+ a year. That would be the only conference that would have baseball/lax/soccer deals with ESPN also. The $$ is there in this, someone just has to make it happen. Then if someone makes it happen they need to immediately think about the future and an ACC network so that ESPN gets 2nd tier like the B10 does. Just imagine the ACC tv network with the markets it has land control over. Chesus big $$$!!! In basketball u have 4 of the top 12 teams all time. CBS will get in on the basketball like never before, and there’s more $$ plus several other good names that can come back to life with the boost of having a strong top half. Just imagine ESPN having a ACC Wednesday night every week or whatever…you can be THE player in basketball tv wise and just imagine those NCAAt payouts (kind of like what the BE has now). Making this move does several things:
1) It makes you one of the Big 4 football conferences. With FSU/PSU/ND, you are not being left out in any way. More likely the B12 then can’t stay stable. By going to 18, you show that it can work both on the field and $$ wise. You were the first to do it and now are sitting pretty because of it. Your TV contract will be the first of the next renegotiated ones up in the 2020’s.
Some of the dominos likely then to fall will be:
B10+ Kan/Kst/Ist/Mizzu/Lville or Cincy or Temple/?/?(only gets to 16 or adds all for 18)
SEC+ TEX/TT/OK/OKST/WVU
PAC+ Baylor/BYU/Nevada/UNLV/UH/TCU
There’s your Big4 for a playoff that will over time expand to 8 teams with the new Conf USA eventually getting an auto bid into spot #5 of the 8.
So, anyone get left out that was in a B4 conference? nope, only some CUSA to BE schools got left out.

CUSA: (left over’s from Big4)
East (some will be in B10)-USF/UCF/ECU/Navy/Army/Temple/Lville/Cincy/Tulsa/Memphis/Tulane/Smiss/UAB
West-Hawaii/SDSU/SJ/Fresno/Idaho//Utah st/WY/NM/NMst
2) Your on top of college basketball, the SEC and B10 are 2nd and 3rd. You get to pick which of the two you want to work with for a “challenge” in basketball season. Take that relationship and form great OOC games in football and other sports.

3) Your other sports are top dog also; you can eventually make money off that. When you build your ACC network, sign HE if PSU/ND/UConn/BC are all in it for example.

4) I forgot

Who wouldn't of those 18 teams not sign up for that? the only 1 i even see putting up a argument is PSU becuase half of there fanbase and school loves the B10 while the other half dreams of a eastern league which is what i made here. If PSU is a no go then grab WVU and bite on the not so great classroom stuff there. Don't you think that over time they could improve as a school with some effort and help form every other great ranking school in this league.....

 

[CTMike]

I think there's a lot of sense in creating a dominant East Coast league, and the Big East ain't the closest to being it. Love the Dan Plan. If I were the ACC I'd try to set up every other year at the new Barclay's Center for their conference hoops tournament. Question is : how do you get PSU and ND to accept your plan? I know UConn would.

 

[Dann]

nd joins becuase with cuse/pitt/ruty/bc/uconn the nyc/ne region is now locked in with the league. when nd joins it also gets games with gt/miami which it wants. when nd joins we now need 1 more team. you first flirt with wvu who i think would want to leave to be apart of this, maybe even call temple just to get the psu ppl to look. they would see the writing on the wall that 18 is the end goal and know they need to be apart of it becuase texas and crew will bolt without notice. so u flirt with them. make them figure out how the heck they are going to get the tv rights they just signed away for years back somehow etc.. all at the same time u let the intern in the office leak something to psu about wvu done deal blah blah. then make your pitch to them and sell them on nd plus regional rivals and that "eastern league" that was always joes dream. show them the 2 divisions and explain they get nd every year as the cross division rival(they will like that alot). they get fsu so they play in fl and clemson so they play in the south atleast once every year for recruiting goodies...and so on with the selling of it. basically get them in and if its a no at the end of the day, figure out wvu and bite on the bad academics.

looks like i made EO again. thats like the 4th time recently, lol love how they wait for my usual crazy ideas on conf's and stuff. they hate it all cause it always ends with bc getting screwed or uconn playing them. haha

 

[tzznandrew]

If the ACC instead of half assing everything grabbed the whole market, things would be different. Someone has to have the balls to be the first to 16 or 18 and not sit and be poached. The issue is grab half and you will at most only get half the eyeballs but you risk pissing that half off because there not entertained by what’s left to see. You grab everyone, makes everyone happy and rivals come alive, u start a turf war and plan accordingly. You capture the whole market. Then over time that market expands with a successful product.

I posted a while back that I thought 18 would make the most sense for an endgame for exactly the reasons you said.

I don't think PSU leaves the B1G. I think the only chance they would ever do such a thing left when Paterno's legacy was tarnished.

I love fantasizing about this sort of thing. Unfortunately, for the near time, it is just fantasy.

 

[Wekivanole]

I have a question for the Insider if he's still around. There's a question on the FSU boards about Tier 3 rights. It's my understanding that the ACC has assigned Tier 1, 2, and 3 rights to the networks as part of their contract. It appears the other conferences have only assigned Tiers 1 andd 2.

FSU has a contract with ISP ($66MM over ten years that was I believe signed prior to the ACC contract) for Tier 3 rights.
http://m.sportsbusinessdaily.com/Jo...ISP-Deal-Would-Put-Georgia-Into-Top-Tier.aspx

Just curious, if you know this, but does FSU get to keep this or is now property of the conference/network?

 

[frankthetank]

I have a question for the Insider if he's still around. There's a question on the FSU boards about Tier 3 rights. It's my understanding that the ACC has assigned Tier 1, 2, and 3 rights to the networks as part of their contract. It appears the other conferences have only assigned Tiers 1 andd 2.

FSU has a contract with ISP ($66MM over ten years that was I believe signed prior to the ACC contract) for Tier 3 rights.
http://m.sportsbusinessdaily.com/Jo...ISP-Deal-Would-Put-Georgia-Into-Top-Tier.aspx

Just curious, if you know this, but does FSU get to keep this or is now property of the conference/network?

You have to differentiate between TV and other media rights. My understanding is that the ACC deal covers all TV rights (from tier 1 to tier 3). This is actually also the case with the Big Ten, Pac-12 and Big East (all of whom have their members assign all tiers of TV rights to the conference, although the Big Ten and Pac-12 split those rights with different partners). However, there is also another bucket of media rights such as radio rights, coaches shows on TV and radio and various Internet rights. That's likely what the ISP deal covers with Florida State, so the ESPN deal doesn't affect that.

 

[Dann]

From PSU/WVU boards:

Some twitter traffic from a...source. I know some don't think much of Greg Swaim but the rumor of B12 expansion has been persistent.


BigTime Sports ‏ @GSwaim Reply Retweet Favorite · Open
Coaches and administrators beginning to check in at #NOLA for the #FinalFour. The #Clemson and #FSU talk to #Big12 definately has legs!!


BigTime Sports ‏ @GSwaim Reply Retweet Favorite · Open
As we’ve always said, #BYU continues to be strongly tied to the #Big12′s future as is #CardNation. More later tonight…


Justin Keith ‏ @Justin_Keith18 Reply Retweet Favorite · Open
@GSwaim so We might see #4 added this Summer?


BigTime Sports ‏ @GSwaim Reply Retweet Favorite · Open
@Justin_Keith18 I don’t have confirmation that they’d add as many as four all at once, or any this year, but there will be teams added.


Christopher Finnegan ‏ @FinneISU Reply Retweet Favorite · Open
@GSwaim ISU AD said yesterday that he would bet his kids the Big 12 wasn’t talking to any ACC schools about expansion. hope he is lying


BigTime Sports ‏ @GSwaim Reply Retweet Favorite · Open
@FinneISU No offense to ISU, but they don’t rank quite as high on the list of “deciders” as a few schools I know of http://s1./wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif?m=1336659725g


BigTime Sports ‏ @GSwaim Reply Retweet Favorite · Open
“@TheCaseter: @GSwaim When are you gonna post your updates #BYU” // As soon as we hear something new it’ll be tweeted right here.


BigTime Sports ‏ @GSwaim Reply Retweet Favorite · Open
@tevita_mac Everyone could potentially have a source, but mine at both the #Big12 and #BYU says talks are still ongoing…and going well.

Top six major programs most likely to make a move by this summer… #BYU, #CardNation, #FSU, #Clemson, #Rutgers, #UConn.

“@kotisamani: @GSwaim Any specific order out of those six?” // that is in order.


BigTime Sports ‏ @GSwaim Reply Retweet Favorite · Open
“@MatthewGaylor: @GSwaim So have the talks died down from #FSU and #Clemson until a new Commish comes through?” // Ongoing.


BigTime Sports ‏ @GSwaim Reply Retweet Favorite · Open
“@dburr10: @GSwaim So if you were a betting man would you buy a ticket for #BYU to the #Big12 lottery sweepstakes?” // Yes I would.

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acc needs to go for the monster move or it will be in pieces by da 4th of jew-lie.
bummer is that theres a decent chance that uconn and ruty will end up in the acc post fsu/clem and that league will be a great bball/all sports league but not challenege us in fball. then u also have to worry about the b10 picking uva/md/uncs of the world before us also.

things 2 watch:
1)b12 do they go to 14, 16 or 18. byu/lville/fsu/clem are 14. how much farther do they go? do they take more acc/eastern teams?

2)b10 has been real quiet. do they goto 14/16/18 and who? this is the dream sleeper move for uconn fans as the b10 has to be interested in big public east coast schools and nd for solid conf adds and great tv potential.

3)the sec is going to be in the mix for a 2nd tex market, a va mk and a nc mk among others.....depending on who dies first(acc or b12) shit is going to get wild with this.

4) as soon as the 4 big boys are set, is it 16 or 18 per? the bca playoff will happen and i think the 4 will come to a agreement to speed all things up to 2015 and drop all tv issues and $$ issues.

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"@HuskyfanDan: @GSwaim where would #uconn be going with #rutgers? #acc or #B1G?" /// As of today ACC more likely.

 

[epark88]

Greg Swaim has yet to be right about anything major concerning expansion. Plus he's gotta be like, twelve years old or something.

A very immature Tweep with minimal class. Hard to take him seriously...

 

[UConnDan97]

From PSU/WVU boards:

Some twitter traffic from a...source. I know some don't think much of Greg Swaim but the rumor of B12 expansion has been persistent.

I have to admit that a large part of me wanted this thread to die, but since you've opened it back up...If the Clemson / FSU thing really does have legs (I don't know much about Swaim, but I've heard this rumor in other places too), then that might actually push the ACC into inviting UConn / Rutgers without the ND stipulation.

If the Big10 were to push for Rutgers / UConn for the NYC market, that would be both a miracle and a curse from a football perspective. A miracle because we would make fantastic money and be affiliated with many big-time football programs, but a curse because it would almost guarantee that we go 5-7 / 4-8 every year (unless we had a 1990-like "dream season").

As always, some interesting and nerve-bending chatter going on again about realignment...

 

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