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From our POV, we very much need them to become independent. Having 2 more schools (with decent footprint, not great mind you) to schedule in October and November would be great for us and bring us up to 4 total we could reliably scheduleStanford and Cal want to stay in the now P4. I agree B1G, Big 12 would be the first two choices, but the ACC is much better than going independent. It’s been a disaster for us.
That's just not possible. FSU is asking for the conference to squeeze blood from a stone and is being completely unreasonable. FSU needs to understand there is no way for them to compete with the B1G or SEC schools and accept their position as a second class citizen. It's OK, there's going to be a lot of schools getting kicked out of the "power" club soon. Welcome to our world.
I honestly can't see us getting looked at by a conference again. I think it's over. We've been passed over by everyone. I think we're looked at not differently than the rest of our Big East brethren. We happen to play football, but it's not even considered MAC level and there's little appetite for seeing if that would change.That UConn is not in this discussion is both dumbfounding and infuriating. They must really hold a grudge in Tobacco Road.
I tend to agree with your POV. Our future is making our own destiny. Help lead the Big East back into the realm of big public schools after the inevitable collapse of the ACC, Big 12, or bothI honestly can't see us getting looked at by a conference again. I think it's over. We've been passed over by everyone. I think we're looked at not differently than the rest of our Big East brethren. We happen to play football, but it's not even considered MAC level and there's little appetite for seeing if that would change.
To be clear, I think this is BS. UConn is significantly more valuable than a number of teams that have been chosen ahead of us, and certainly more valuable than a number of legacy Power teams. The Big 12 just doubled up in two states (one of which has slightly lower population than Connecticut despite being 5(?) times the size). The ACC took two private schools and a borderline community college over a flagship UConn.
This is over until we get an invite. Any other noise is just that. You can feel bad for Charlie Brown for a couple misses, but after a while, he's the sucker. Let's just keep winning and enjoy the ride. The administration needs to do everything it can to allow us to be relevant in basketball. It just doesn't look like a Power conference is part of that equation.
It's simply absurd that FSU thinks they won't be able to compete. The B1G teams aren't dominating anybody despite the revenue. The portal has leveled the playing field more than the top schools want to admit. TCU? Cincinnati? FSU will be fine in the ACC. This is more like a player holding out for more money because he feels slighted. It's nothing but wounded pride. The ACC payout goes up every year and will blow right past the Big XII soon.Oh well...just give up, huh?
FSU will compete as long as they are able...But I am all for going down with the decks awash and all guns blazing.
I's rather go down like Sonny Corleone than wheezing out my last years on a respirator.
(what a mixed metaphor..)
After this 100% of our fanbase should be onboard with taking any P4 offer that comes our way. Clearly St John's would go to the ACC if the ACC decided to go hybrid and you know Nova and Gtown won't be far behind at which point Providence would be begging to get in.
Edit: alright as I read this a third time maybe I am misreading his intentions here but I still think they would go hybrid.
St John's to Big 12 is realAfter this 100% of our fanbase should be onboard with taking any P4 offer that comes our way. Clearly St John's would go to the ACC if the ACC decided to go hybrid and you know Nova and Gtown won't be far behind at which point Providence would be begging to get in.
Edit: alright as I read this a third time maybe I am misreading his intentions here but I still think they would go hybrid.
It's simply absurd that FSU thinks they won't be able to compete. The B1G teams aren't dominating anybody despite the revenue. The portal has leveled the playing field more than the top schools want to admit. TCU? Cincinnati? FSU will be fine in the ACC. This is more like a player holding out for more money because he feels slighted. It's nothing but wounded pride. The ACC payout goes up every year and will blow right past the Big XII soon.
Kansas just built a football locker room and weight room that looks like it's from Star Trek, on Big XII money.
Maybe, or maybe they reached out to us and asked us if we would take a reduced share and we said no.That UConn is not in this discussion is both dumbfounding and infuriating. They must really hold a grudge in Tobacco Road.
You’re Fredo is this scenario.Oh well...just give up, huh?
FSU will compete as long as they are able...But I am all for going down with the decks awash and all guns blazing.
I's rather go down like Sonny Corleone than wheezing out my last years on a respirator.
(what a mixed metaphor..)
Do you not realize how tone deaf your posts about FSU only making $40 million a year in the ACC come off considering the audience? Pardon us if we don't have sympathy for poor little FSU "only" making 10x what UConn does. FSU is just another in the majority of power schools that does less with more. Be happy with what you have instead of being mad that someone else has more than you. Talk about entitled spoiled brats.Haters will hate.
Facts. We as a collective absolutely hate anything and everything related to the ACC.Haters will hate.
Fredo went out quietly...
Maybe, or maybe they reached out to us and asked us if we would take a reduced share and we said no.
Yeah no idea, but I am sure that things are happening in the margins, all the time. In fact Governor Lamont said as much in his quote on the subject.I’d hope this isn’t the case currently as it seems like there’s a lot of scrambling going on and we need to find a way to get our foot in the door. I’m not saying to go free as SMU allegedly is doing but there has to be a reasonable number we’d be presenting the ACC to make it work for all sides - All sides meaning us, the ACC, and ESPN