ACC network officially happening

[CL82]

A lot of angst about the Cards...

They are a P5...maybe when UConn goes P5, that angst will lesson some.

No angst. Posters from other schools seem to love to stop by to compare resumes... it doesn't end well for them.

 

[JSM1970]

Even if we make our way into the B12 somehow it will be a pretty lousy outcome compared to the ACC or B1G, especially with the assumption UT, OU and KU are gone in 2024

ACC probably waiting to see their chances with UT longer term and won't do anything until then, probably same with B1G

No angst. Posters from other schools seem to love to stop by to compare resumes... it doesn't end well for them.

 

[Cleanface]

Not only that, but Louisville's fan base is hugely and predominantly composed of highly successful adults.

A great majority of these people attended and graduated from UofL.

I live in Louisville. You are out of your gottdamm mind.

Louisville's fanbase is one of the most , line-beard, uneducated, ghetto-bird fanbases in all of college athletics. And the school administration, including athletic admin, is a national joke on all levels. Have you seen the current President drama? The disgraced Bobby Petrino?? Abortion funding Pitino?? Hookers and whores??

Pure urban trash. And once you get five miles outside of the city, no one gives a flying F about the school.

UoL, aka, Louiville Community College (LCC), is complete dogshit with a corrupt and morally bankrupt administration, and a garbage fanbase. UoL is everything that is wrong with college athletics.

I respect the absolute worst of the SEC more than UoLCC, and I despise the SEC.


edit; "A great majority of these people attended and graduated from UofL." Is graduating from UoL supposed to give some kind of cred to these fans?? Aside from WVU, LCC is the absolute worst P5 school RE academics. Congrats?

 

[Fishy]

1) Louisville is a Big 12 school with the moral compass of an SEC school who got into the ACC because the ACC was scared. No, it's not an impressive academic institution, but that isn't its mission anyway.

2) In terms of a network, adding Louisville was a mistake. It's another market dominated by a competitor, but so be it - it's not our problem.

3) If Swofford really negotiated that $45M yearly penalty into the contract, he's brilliant. Straight brilliant. I give the guy all the credit in the world.

4) What an amazing failure of imagination on the part of the ESPN people - between the massive Big Ten money, Big 12 expansion and now having to start a network no one really wants in a market that is openly hostile, their cost-cutting has just begun. I still have no idea how they are going to sell this turkey, but given that their hands were probably forced by the Big Ten lurking with that massive contract as an arsenal, I guess they had no choice - rolling into 2020 with the Big Ten waving $50M at UNC/UVa, etc., was probably ESPN's nightmare given that the Big Ten really isn't tied to them,

 

[upstater]

1) Louisville is a Big 12 school with the moral compass of an SEC school who got into the ACC because the ACC was scared. No, it's not an impressive academic institution, but that isn't its mission anyway.

2) In terms of a network, adding Louisville was a mistake. It's another market dominated by a competitor, but so be it - it's not our problem.

3) If Swofford really negotiated that $45M yearly penalty into the contract, he's brilliant. Straight brilliant. I give the guy all the credit in the world.

4) What an amazing failure of imagination on the part of the ESPN people - between the massive Big Ten money, Big 12 expansion and now having to start a network no one really wants in a market that is openly hostile, their cost-cutting has just begun. I still have no idea how they are going to sell this turkey, but given that their hands were probably forced by the Big Ten lurking with that massive contract as an arsenal, I guess they had no choice - rolling into 2020 with the Big Ten waving $50M at UNC/UVa, etc., was probably ESPN's nightmare given that the Big Ten really isn't tied to them,

Hmmm, ESPN will be alright. They are subsidized to do all this great stuff by the wonderful taxpayers of Connecticut.

If Memphis is about to get another big chunk of ESPN's money, maybe someone in Conn. will call for an explanation.

 

[Senore]

I live in Louisville. You are out of your gottdamm mind.

Louisville's fanbase is one of the most , line-beard, uneducated, ghetto-bird fanbases in all of college athletics. And the school administration, including athletic admin, is a national joke on all levels. Have you seen the current President drama? The disgraced Bobby Petrino?? Abortion funding Pitino?? Hookers and whores??

Pure urban trash. And once you get five miles outside of the city, no one gives a flying F about the school.

UoL, aka, Louiville Community College (LCC), is complete dogshit with a corrupt and morally bankrupt administration, and a garbage fanbase. UoL is everything that is wrong with college athletics.

I respect the absolute worst of the SEC more than UoLCC, and I despise the SEC.


edit; "A great majority of these people attended and graduated from UofL." Is graduating from UoL supposed to give some kind of cred to these fans?? Aside from WVU, LCC is the absolute worst P5 school RE academics. Congrats?

LMAO. You're obviously a UK fan. Who cares what you think? Hating the town you live in - lol, congratulate yourself on a live fully lived!! I've lived in Vancouver, BC, Santa Cruz, California, Reno, Nevada and Portland, Oregon and I rate Louisville as equally appealing. Of course, much of the experience for me is also the people, so that could be the difference in perceptions.

Yeah, it's so bad in Louisville for the trashy U that the Home Arena sits on the Ohio as a local icon, existing as the best sports bar in America, lol, seats 22K and has luxuries pro teams don;t have. It is also regularly featured as one of the best cities in America to live in, but I'm just rubbing it in now.

And you live there? Bwahahahahaha............ Bad news, pud, so do I. This just makes it that much worse for you.

 

[WestHartHusk]

LMAO. You're obviously a UK fan. Who cares what you think? Hating the town you live in - lol, congratulate yourself on a live fully lived!! I've lived in Vancouver, BC, Santa Cruz, California, Reno, Nevada and Portland, Oregon and I rate Louisville as equally appealing. Of course, much of the experience for me is also the people, so that could be the difference in perceptions.

Yeah, it's so bad in Louisville for the trashy U that the Home Arena sits on the Ohio as a local icon, existing as the best sports bar in America, lol, seats 22K and has luxuries pro teams don;t have. It is also regularly featured as one of the best cities in America to live in, but I'm just rubbing it in now.

And you live there? Bwahahahahaha.. Bad news, pud, so do I. This just makes it that much worse for you.

Dude, Louisville is a fine town. But how do you expect to have any credibility when you compare it to Portland and Vancouver?

 

[Adios]

He's a Purdue fan. That should have been obvious.

 

[billybud]

Even when I was eight years old, I knew about Louisville....my Louisville Slugger was my prize possession along with my Rawlings PML Stan Musial glove.

Now that I am a lot older, I appreciate other things...like the Kentucky Bourbon trail and the bourbon bars of Louisville that feature 50 different bourbons.


Scotch seems to be the urban drink of choice in the upper east...but bourbon is my thing.

 

[31GuardTrap]

LMAO. You're obviously a UK fan. Who cares what you think? Hating the town you live in - lol, congratulate yourself on a live fully lived!! I've lived in Vancouver, BC, Santa Cruz, California, Reno, Nevada and Portland, Oregon and I rate Louisville as equally appealing. Of course, much of the experience for me is also the people, so that could be the difference in perceptions.

Yeah, it's so bad in Louisville for the trashy U that the Home Arena sits on the Ohio as a local icon, existing as the best sports bar in America, lol, seats 22K and has luxuries pro teams don;t have. It is also regularly featured as one of the best cities in America to live in, but I'm just rubbing it in now.

And you live there? Bwahahahahaha.. Bad news, pud, so do I. This just makes it that much worse for you.

I have NEVER ever heard anyone refer to Louisville as one of the best cities in America to live in. Is it featured locally? Congrats on being the home to the Slugger though.

 

[Sea Goat]

Well our football program is growing by leaps and bounds. Here is a preview of the just announced stadium expansion to 65000 with new training facilities. Papa Johns is on track to be over 77,000 seats in another decade. The field level suites are the first in college football.

My Boston Terrier is proud!

 

[superjohn]

LMAO. You're obviously a UK fan. Who cares what you think? Hating the town you live in - lol, congratulate yourself on a live fully lived!! I've lived in Vancouver, BC, Santa Cruz, California, Reno, Nevada and Portland, Oregon and I rate Louisville as equally appealing. Of course, much of the experience for me is also the people, so that could be the difference in perceptions.

Yeah, it's so bad in Louisville for the trashy U that the Home Arena sits on the Ohio as a local icon, existing as the best sports bar in America, lol, seats 22K and has luxuries pro teams don;t have. It is also regularly featured as one of the best cities in America to live in, but I'm just rubbing it in now.

And you live there? Bwahahahahaha.. Bad news, pud, so do I. This just makes it that much worse for you.

I thought Louisville seemed like a pretty nice small city first time I visited, next time I visited I actually got to see the guts of the city and it's pretty dumpy. You lose all credibility when you say Louisville is on equal footing with Vancouver and Portland.

 

[CL82]

How is it that all these Louisville fans started showing up. Did someone forget to spray?

 

[sportsart]

Well our football program is growing by leaps and bounds. Here is a preview of the just announced stadium expansion to 65000 with new training facilities. Papa Johns is on track to be over 77,000 seats in another decade. The field level suites are the first in college football.

New UL Motto

 

[Cleanface]

LMAO. You're obviously a UK fan. Who cares what you think? Hating the town you live in - lol, congratulate yourself on a live fully lived!! I've lived in Vancouver, BC, Santa Cruz, California, Reno, Nevada and Portland, Oregon and I rate Louisville as equally appealing. Of course, much of the experience for me is also the people, so that could be the difference in perceptions.

Yeah, it's so bad in Louisville for the trashy U that the Home Arena sits on the Ohio as a local icon, existing as the best sports bar in America, lol, seats 22K and has luxuries pro teams don;t have. It is also regularly featured as one of the best cities in America to live in, but I'm just rubbing it in now.

And you live there? Bwahahahahaha.. Bad news, pud, so do I. This just makes it that much worse for you.

You seem smart, like a typical UoLCC grad.

Did I mention the city of Louisville, itself, one time?? No, I degraded and denounced UoLCC, it's fans, its admins, it's everything.

I love living in The Ville, and have since 2000.

BTW - That's Purdue Pete to the left. I've been on this board for quite some time, and people know me here as a B1G honk and PUR grad. You, and your school, and all your friends, are dogshit.

 

[CTMike]

Did I mention the city of Louisville, itself, one time?? No, I degraded and denounced UoLCC, it's fans, its admins, it's everything.
You seem smart, like a typical UoLCC grad.

I love living in The Ville, and have since 2000.

BTW - That's Purdue Pete to the left. I've been on this board for quite some time, and people know me here as a B1G honk and PUR grad. You, and your school, and all your friends, are dogshit.

I'm in a hateful mood right now and this is some next level hate, I love it.

 

[Cleanface]

Scratch that, I changed my avatar back to the Boilermaker from Pete.

You can go to Hell, LCC dregs.

 

[upstater]

Senore was once a very good poster, and then started bashing UConn as much as possible around the time of the 4th national championship in 2014.

 

[UCFBfan]

Senore was once a very good poster, and then started bashing UConn as much as possible around the time of the 4th national championship in 2014.

Coinciding with Louisville becoming a P5 school??? Shocker that he'd look at us with disgust...we're G5, not even allowed in the same room with those P5 types. Asshats

 

[billybud]

More info re ACC contract from interview with FSU President Thrasher...

...he mentions super conferences, change, three contracted look ins (1st in 2021)

A: Here’s the thing about the Grant of Rights. It’s an extension [of the previous deal], and I understand that. And everybody in the ACC went along with it … and, by the way, it was unanimous among the presidents. The one interesting thing is, once we get it started, there are three look-backs. So there are going to be three opportunities during the course of the contract to take a look at it. To take a step back and see how it’s doing: Do there need to be adjustments? Things like that. ESPN agreed to that. The ACC agreed to it. So the first one will be in 2021. So we’ll have about 2½ years of experience, and we’ll see where we are.

If we have to make some adjustments, we’ll make some adjustments. But college football’s evolving. You hear all of these ideas about super-conferences and all that. That could happen. But at least for the time being, we’re going to be well taken care of in the ACC. And I like the ACC, personally.

 

[billybud]

Sounds like President Thrasher thinks that there may be some weight to the four super conference thoughts going around.

 

[The X Man]

Don't worry about it. there is a good chance you won't be around in 2021

 

[WestCoastHusky]

LMAO. You're obviously a UK fan. Who cares what you think? Hating the town you live in - lol, congratulate yourself on a live fully lived!! I've lived in Vancouver, BC, Santa Cruz, California, Reno, Nevada and Portland, Oregon and I rate Louisville as equally appealing. Of course, much of the experience for me is also the people, so that could be the difference in perceptions.

Yeah, it's so bad in Louisville for the trashy U that the Home Arena sits on the Ohio as a local icon, existing as the best sports bar in America, lol, seats 22K and has luxuries pro teams don;t have. It is also regularly featured as one of the best cities in America to live in, but I'm just rubbing it in now.

And you live there? Bwahahahahaha.. Bad news, pud, so do I. This just makes it that much worse for you.

Only a UL graduate would compare a city like Louisville to a city like Vancouver. I love Vancouver, and I would love to visit every chance I can. As for Louisville, it is pretty far down on the list of cities as far as destinations.

Congrats on your community college somehow made into the P5. However. It still does not change the fact that your school is dog poop when it comes to academics or integrity of your coaches.

 

[billybud]

Sounds like President Thrasher thinks that there may be some weight to the four super conference thoughts going around.

Don't worry about it. there is a good chance you won't be around in 2021

oh hell yeah I will.....we live a long time...grandpa was still chopping firewood in his 90's and died at 95. Good hearts..if the big C doesn't come bite me in the butt...I'll cruise for a while.

 

[atom58]

You would think, but resentment remained. No one likes to get sued in a corporate setting, let alone individually. By naming a host of individuals in the suit, he created many bitter memories for the very people who would determine our fate in 2011. As far as Pitt is concerned, the defendants believed the suit was Blumenthal's and the State of Connecticut's baby.
We were detested for doing it. Even if all of the defendants ended up with "Irish Alzheimer's", they would remember Blumenthal's suit.

Looking backward, the naming of individuals in the lawsuit was where it crossed the line. I think Swofford was one of those named but to his credit it apparently has not affected his judgement - after all, "this is business". However including Rev. Leahy of BC left some bad memories there I think as Leahy is a Catholic priest with vows of celibacy and poverty. He earns no $$$ as head of BC. I understand Susan Herbst to her credit has reached out to him.

No one really knows the future but I am hopeful the ACC network will be a great success and that your school will get in the P5 somewhere. As I mentioned, this is a business - it is not "only a game" - BB players can go one and done, FB players can leave after 3 years, both BB and FB players can become overnight millionaires, FB and BB HCs are millionaires, and assistant coaches yearly earn more than many of the folks on any sports comment board. Now we can "blame" OU for suing the NCAA and the Supreme Court ruling in 1984 for causing the big money grab when control over TV money went from the NCAA to individual schools and conferences, but under capitalism it is what it is. It is a very efficient, dynamic system but is only concerned with short-term $$$ interests as one of your commenters noted.

 

[Mr. Hand]

Looking backward, the naming of individuals in the lawsuit was where it crossed the line. I think Swofford was one of those named but to his credit it apparently has not affected his judgement - after all, "this is business". However including Rev. Leahy of BC left some bad memories there I think as Leahy is a Catholic priest with vows of celibacy and poverty. He earns no $$$ as head of BC. I understand Susan Herbst to her credit has reached out to him.

No one really knows the future but I am hopeful the ACC network will be a great success and that your school will get in the P5 somewhere. As I mentioned, this is a business - it is not "only a game" - BB players can go one and done, FB players can leave after 3 years, both BB and FB players can become overnight millionaires, FB and BB HCs are millionaires, and assistant coaches yearly earn more than many of the folks on any sports comment board. Now we can "blame" OU for suing the NCAA and the Supreme Court ruling in 1984 for causing the big money grab when control over TV money went from the NCAA to individual schools and conferences, but under capitalism it is what it is. It is a very efficient, dynamic system but is only concerned with short-term $$$ interests as one of your commenters noted.

B.C. never wanted us in the Big East, largely fled the Big East because of us, did everything in their power to sabotage us following them out of the Big East, and would/will vote against UConn joining the ACC forever as a matter of unstated policy. It has nothing to do with lawsuits.

UConn puts the lie to the claim that Northeast schools can't compete in athletics like southern schools can, an excuse that conveniently forgives B.C.'s 50+ years of ineptitude. They have every legitimate reason to fear UConn on equal footing with them. B.C. more resembles the small, insular, private city schools of the Big East it left behind in terms of athletic department resources and fan footprint than the southern schools that are the meat of the ACC. The fact that they play football doesn't change anything. UConn is considerably better equipped for the athletic grind, and they know it.

It pisses me off how little the rest of the country knows about northeast schools. Bunch of ignorant, provincial morons, all of them.

 

[upstater]

Looking backward, the naming of individuals in the lawsuit was where it crossed the line. I think Swofford was one of those named but to his credit it apparently has not affected his judgement - after all, "this is business". However including Rev. Leahy of BC left some bad memories there I think as Leahy is a Catholic priest with vows of celibacy and poverty. He earns no $$$ as head of BC. I understand Susan Herbst to her credit has reached out to him.

No one really knows the future but I am hopeful the ACC network will be a great success and that your school will get in the P5 somewhere. As I mentioned, this is a business - it is not "only a game" - BB players can go one and done, FB players can leave after 3 years, both BB and FB players can become overnight millionaires, FB and BB HCs are millionaires, and assistant coaches yearly earn more than many of the folks on any sports comment board. Now we can "blame" OU for suing the NCAA and the Supreme Court ruling in 1984 for causing the big money grab when control over TV money went from the NCAA to individual schools and conferences, but under capitalism it is what it is. It is a very efficient, dynamic system but is only concerned with short-term $$$ interests as one of your commenters noted.

Much worse was done to Leahy by schools admitted to the ACC.

The key was that as soon as UConn's membership in BE football came up, already BC was opposed in ways. For instance, there is an article from 2002 written by Bob Ryan in the Boston Globe where he quotes BC AD sources as saying they are very worried UConn will come to dominate as they have in basketball.

 

[atom58]

B.C. never wanted us in the Big East, largely fled the Big East because of us, did everything in their power to sabotage us following them out of the Big East, and would/will vote against UConn joining the ACC forever as a matter of unstated policy. It has nothing to do with lawsuits.

UConn puts the lie to the claim that Northeast schools can't compete in athletics like southern schools can, an excuse that conveniently forgives B.C.'s 50+ years of ineptitude. They have every legitimate reason to fear UConn on equal footing with them. B.C. more resembles the small, insular, private city schools of the Big East it left behind in terms of athletic department resources and fan footprint than the southern schools that are the meat of the ACC. The fact that they play football doesn't change anything. UConn is considerably better equipped for the athletic grind, and they know it.

It pisses me off how little the rest of the country knows about northeast schools. Bunch of ignorant, provincial morons, all of them.

I think Rev. Leahy was basically looking for more money to support BC's numerous athletic teams. I read several BC sites and many fans on those sites are highly critical of him as having no interest in athletics - one of them said that he told a BC group it costs $20 million to support BC athletics so they make no profit on the ACC money - a statement ridiculed by a number of BC posters. (Since they got $26.8 million in 2015 from the ACC they made nearly a $7 million profit by that "reasoning".)

 

[TRest]

I think Rev. Leahy was basically looking for more money to support BC's numerous athletic teams. I read several BC sites and many fans on those sites are highly critical of him as having no interest in athletics - one of them said that he told a BC group it costs $20 million to support BC athletics so they make no profit on the ACC money - a statement ridiculed by a number of BC posters. (Since they got $26.8 million in 2015 from the ACC they made nearly a $7 million profit by that "reasoning".)

The extra money supports the father's "vow of poverty" lifestyle. There are plenty of people who would trade places with him for his non-salaried position.

 

[Waquoit]

I think Rev. Leahy was basically looking for more money to support BC's numerous athletic teams.

Wrong. Leahy said it was all about academics. Unless he was lying.