ACC Big East merger

[Kolumbo]

No way there is a full merger unless the basketball only BE teams take only a cut of bball revenue and olympic sport revenue. UConn would come in prorated for football for a while.

Wait. That sounds just like the old BE model which blew up for obvious reasons.

The old Big East model was working very well until the ACC tore it apart. It was well ahead of its time.

https://247sports.com/college/duke/article/coach-k-and-rick-pitino-believe-in-hypothetical-acc-and-big-east-merger-244039216/

ACC/BIG EAST Basketball Merger

An article in the N.Y. Post today said that Pitino is in favor of a mega basketball conference combining the ACC and Big East. He said he agrees with Coach K who recommends the super basketball conference. Pitino feels both conferences would benefit greatly with the expansion. I’m surprised...

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Coach K wants a Big East/ACC Merger | HoyaTalk

https://nypost.com/2025/01/11/sports/pitino-endorses-coach-ks-merger-proposal-to-create-mega-basketball-conference/ not sure what it means for Big East Football SEC basketball is improvi

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https://247sports.com/college/providence/board/102629/contents/beast-acc--244040143/?page=1

 

[Blue Idiaco]

based on history, ESPN tactics would be to invite Uconn, Villanova and St Johns, blowing up the conference and leaving Fox with bad inventory.

 

[ZooCougar]

based on history, ESPN tactics would be to invite Uconn, Villanova and St Johns, blowing up the conference and leaving Fox with bad inventory.

And I’m ok with that.

 

[Tyler2Rings]

based on history, ESPN tactics would be to invite Uconn, Villanova and St Johns, blowing up the conference and leaving Fox with bad inventory.

I agree. With Cal/Stanford now I could also see Gonzaga being included in the BB-only invites

I think other dominos will fall before this has a chance to happen

 

[Dove]

29 hoop schools. 18 football schools.

 

[nelsonmuntz]

And I’m ok with that.

The ACC shouldn't bother then. It accomplishes nothing, just like adding UConn accomplishes nothing. We are past the point of a couple of million of incremental revenue driving any conference expansion. The Big East, Big 12 and/or ACC should do something strategic, or accept that they are already dead, and milk the last ESPN contract for all it is worth before dropping down to a lower level of competition.

 

[TheHorde]

While I don’t realistically see it happening anytime soon, if ever, if this happened and the property included Notre Dame in football, that would be a game changer.

 

[LoyalFanCT]

Would be great to see UConn football playing in ACC. Let the discussions begin!

 

[RedRabbit84]

While I don’t realistically see it happening anytime soon, if ever, if this happened and the property included Notre Dame in football, that would be a game changer.

I think you're on to something there. Notre Dame would sure enjoy being with fellow Catholic institutions.

Honestly, I think this has a chance of happening for the reasons I've stated and I think it would benefit both parties.

Laugh all you want, but don't be terribly shocked to see Kansas, WVU, Cincinnati, Utah, Arizona, and UConn with ACC logos on their football jerseys when the dust settles.

 

[king conn]

The ACC shouldn't bother then. It accomplishes nothing, just like adding UConn accomplishes nothing. We are past the point of a couple of million of incremental revenue driving any conference expansion. The Big East, Big 12 and/or ACC should do something strategic, or accept that they are already dead, and milk the last ESPN contract for all it is worth before dropping down to a lower level of competition.

Why do you hate UConn so much?

It has become very clear your priority one is to make sure the Big East survives intact or blow everything up!

Do you work in Val's office?

 

[John]

Do you work in Val's office?

South Orange, NJ

 

[DoctorWho85]

But wouldn't that still leave Football hurting for a conference?

 

[LoyalFanCT]

But wouldn't that still leave Football hurting for a conference?

They could give UConn a spot in the ACC football conference as part of the agreement.

 

[Chin Diesel]

I think you're on to something there. Notre Dame would sure enjoy being with fellow Catholic institutions.

Honestly, I think this has a chance of happening for the reasons I've stated and I think it would benefit both parties.

Laugh all you want, but don't be terribly shocked to see Kansas, WVU, Cincinnati, Utah, Arizona, and UConn with ACC logos on their football jerseys when the dust settles.

Every time I've been shocked, it's been terrible.

 

[jostar1]

 

[jostar1]

They could give UConn a spot in the ACC football conference as part of the agreement.

Yes, but what if they didn't. They would really have us over a barrel.

 

[LoyalFanCT]

Yes, but what if they didn't. They would really have us over a barrel.

Not sure, but adding UConn to ACC football sounds possible to me. I am kind of curious if all of the Big East teams would be offered a BB spot or is it just some of them. What would happen to the rejects?

 

[TheHorde]

I think you're on to something there. Notre Dame would sure enjoy being with fellow Catholic institutions.

Honestly, I think this has a chance of happening for the reasons I've stated and I think it would benefit both parties.

Laugh all you want, but don't be terribly shocked to see Kansas, WVU, Cincinnati, Utah, Arizona, and UConn with ACC logos on their football jerseys when the dust settles.

If Marcus Freeman were to take an NFL job, it becomes more likely. But ND obviously isn’t sharing their football revenue with conference members right now. It depends on how likely they are to think the gravy train will last. Their NBC football rights are mighty attractive right now.

 

[Austin316]

They could do a mid season tournament… kinda like NBA.

 

[ZooCougar]

Yes, but what if they didn't. They would really have us over a barrel.l

Zanetto is a YouTube clickbait grifter now.

 

[FfldCntyFan]

If Marcus Freeman were to take an NFL job, it becomes more likely. But ND obviously isn’t sharing their football revenue with conference members right now. It depends on how likely they are to think the gravy train will last. Their NBC football rights are mighty attractive right now.

ND's performance in this year's CFP added five years to whatever the anticipated date of them needing to join a conference for all sports had been.

For the sake of discussion, if the ACC were to consider the K proposal, I don't see how they could all the entirety of the current BE. The 18 member (until they lose a couple) football conference may be workable, although far from Ideal, but a 29 member basketball conference would be absolutely ridiculous. Logically they would want to cap it at an even number, most likely 24, which would leave nearly half of the current BE out on the cold.

I think K is just trying to sound like he cares about a number of schools that his conference spent decades repeatedly trying to destroy.

 

[superjohn]

Thanks for outlining your posting style for the newbies. Will make explaining your posts easier.

Waylon is the weirdest and most annoying poster in the history of this board. Everything is projection and it's straw man after straw man. He loves dishing it out but he's the biggest wuss ever.

 

[CL82]

Zanetto is a YouTube clickbait grifter now.

Now?

 

[baggerbob]

No way there is a full merger unless the basketball only BE teams take only a cut of bball revenue and olympic sport revenue. UConn would come in prorated for football for a while.

Wait. That sounds just like the old BE model which blew up for obvious reasons.

It blew up because the basketball schools had control of the contract. If there had been a basketball and a football only contract where the basketball schools couldn’t veto the football side, they might have stayed together.
The veto of the entire contract caused ESPN to dissolve the conference as it was.

 

[CL82]

ND's performance in this year's CFP added five years to whatever the anticipated date of them needing to join a conference for all sports had been.

For the sake of discussion, if the ACC were to consider the K proposal, I don't see how they could all the entirety of the current BE. The 18 member (until they lose a couple) football conference may be workable, although far from Ideal, but a 29 member basketball conference would be absolutely ridiculous. Logically they would want to cap it at an even number, most likely 24, which would leave nearly half of the current BE out on the cold.

I think K is just trying to sound like he cares about a number of schools that his conference spent decades repeatedly trying to destroy.

I think he's just trying to come up with an idea to make the ACC relevant again and less vulnerable after the inevitable departures.

The big six conferences became the P5, which became the P4, which soon will become the P3. He's just coming up with a plan that would potentially leave the ACC as the survivor. The only good that I see coming out of the whole exercise is that maybe it spurs the big 12 to issue an invite to us. I think there has always been this notion that. UConn will always be on the shelf. So having a little perceived competition would, arguably, create some urgency if someone was thinking about giving us an invite.

That said, I'll believe it when it happens.