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ACC Big East merger

ZooCougar said:
And I’m ok with that.
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The ACC shouldn't bother then. It accomplishes nothing, just like adding UConn accomplishes nothing. We are past the point of a couple of million of incremental revenue driving any conference expansion. The Big East, Big 12 and/or ACC should do something strategic, or accept that they are already dead, and milk the last ESPN contract for all it is worth before dropping down to a lower level of competition.
 
While I don’t realistically see it happening anytime soon, if ever, if this happened and the property included Notre Dame in football, that would be a game changer.
 
Would be great to see UConn football playing in ACC. Let the discussions begin!
 
TheHorde said:
While I don’t realistically see it happening anytime soon, if ever, if this happened and the property included Notre Dame in football, that would be a game changer.
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I think you're on to something there. Notre Dame would sure enjoy being with fellow Catholic institutions.

Honestly, I think this has a chance of happening for the reasons I've stated and I think it would benefit both parties.

Laugh all you want, but don't be terribly shocked to see Kansas, WVU, Cincinnati, Utah, Arizona, and UConn with ACC logos on their football jerseys when the dust settles.
 
nelsonmuntz said:
The ACC shouldn't bother then. It accomplishes nothing, just like adding UConn accomplishes nothing. We are past the point of a couple of million of incremental revenue driving any conference expansion. The Big East, Big 12 and/or ACC should do something strategic, or accept that they are already dead, and milk the last ESPN contract for all it is worth before dropping down to a lower level of competition.
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Why do you hate UConn so much?

It has become very clear your priority one is to make sure the Big East survives intact or blow everything up!

Do you work in Val's office?
 
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RedRabbit84 said:
I think you're on to something there. Notre Dame would sure enjoy being with fellow Catholic institutions.

Honestly, I think this has a chance of happening for the reasons I've stated and I think it would benefit both parties.

Laugh all you want, but don't be terribly shocked to see Kansas, WVU, Cincinnati, Utah, Arizona, and UConn with ACC logos on their football jerseys when the dust settles.
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Every time I've been shocked, it's been terrible.
 
jostar1 said:
Yes, but what if they didn't. They would really have us over a barrel.
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Not sure, but adding UConn to ACC football sounds possible to me. I am kind of curious if all of the Big East teams would be offered a BB spot or is it just some of them. What would happen to the rejects?
 
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RedRabbit84 said:
I think you're on to something there. Notre Dame would sure enjoy being with fellow Catholic institutions.

Honestly, I think this has a chance of happening for the reasons I've stated and I think it would benefit both parties.

Laugh all you want, but don't be terribly shocked to see Kansas, WVU, Cincinnati, Utah, Arizona, and UConn with ACC logos on their football jerseys when the dust settles.
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If Marcus Freeman were to take an NFL job, it becomes more likely. But ND obviously isn’t sharing their football revenue with conference members right now. It depends on how likely they are to think the gravy train will last. Their NBC football rights are mighty attractive right now.
 
TheHorde said:
If Marcus Freeman were to take an NFL job, it becomes more likely. But ND obviously isn’t sharing their football revenue with conference members right now. It depends on how likely they are to think the gravy train will last. Their NBC football rights are mighty attractive right now.
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ND's performance in this year's CFP added five years to whatever the anticipated date of them needing to join a conference for all sports had been.

For the sake of discussion, if the ACC were to consider the K proposal, I don't see how they could all the entirety of the current BE. The 18 member (until they lose a couple) football conference may be workable, although far from Ideal, but a 29 member basketball conference would be absolutely ridiculous. Logically they would want to cap it at an even number, most likely 24, which would leave nearly half of the current BE out on the cold.

I think K is just trying to sound like he cares about a number of schools that his conference spent decades repeatedly trying to destroy.
 
pepband99 said:
Thanks for outlining your posting style for the newbies. Will make explaining your posts easier.
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Waylon is the weirdest and most annoying poster in the history of this board. Everything is projection and it's straw man after straw man. He loves dishing it out but he's the biggest wuss ever.
 
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Chin Diesel said:
No way there is a full merger unless the basketball only BE teams take only a cut of bball revenue and olympic sport revenue. UConn would come in prorated for football for a while.

Wait. That sounds just like the old BE model which blew up for obvious reasons.
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It blew up because the basketball schools had control of the contract. If there had been a basketball and a football only contract where the basketball schools couldn’t veto the football side, they might have stayed together.
The veto of the entire contract caused ESPN to dissolve the conference as it was.
 
FfldCntyFan said:
ND's performance in this year's CFP added five years to whatever the anticipated date of them needing to join a conference for all sports had been.

For the sake of discussion, if the ACC were to consider the K proposal, I don't see how they could all the entirety of the current BE. The 18 member (until they lose a couple) football conference may be workable, although far from Ideal, but a 29 member basketball conference would be absolutely ridiculous. Logically they would want to cap it at an even number, most likely 24, which would leave nearly half of the current BE out on the cold.

I think K is just trying to sound like he cares about a number of schools that his conference spent decades repeatedly trying to destroy.
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I think he's just trying to come up with an idea to make the ACC relevant again and less vulnerable after the inevitable departures.

The big six conferences became the P5, which became the P4, which soon will become the P3. He's just coming up with a plan that would potentially leave the ACC as the survivor. The only good that I see coming out of the whole exercise is that maybe it spurs the big 12 to issue an invite to us. I think there has always been this notion that. UConn will always be on the shelf. So having a little perceived competition would, arguably, create some urgency if someone was thinking about giving us an invite.

That said, I'll believe it when it happens.
 
CL82 said:
I think he's just trying to come up with an idea to make the ACC relevant again and less vulnerable after the inevitable departures.

The big six conferences became the P5, which became the P4, which soon will become the P3. He's just coming up with a plan that would potentially leave the ACC as the survivor. The only good that I see coming out of the whole exercise is that maybe it spurs the big 12 to issue an invite to us. I think there has always been this notion that. UConn will always be on the shelf. So having a little perceived competition would, arguably, create some urgency if someone was thinking about giving us an invite.

That said, I'll believe it when it happens.
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I've read this board a long time, and I'll speak bluntly; every time the "inevitable" ACC collapse was predicted to happen, the opposite has happened instead and the conference pulls off a way to stay together. Heck, even FSU and Clemson are backing away from the ledge of wanting to leave. Meanwhile, there's not as much contentment in the BIGXII as you may believe.

The football schools want what they want. Tobacco road wants what it wants. The Big East schools want to ensure they're not left out if the A4 go through with taking over the tournament. This literally solves everyone's problems. Wins across the board, including for UConn. I wouldn't be quick to dismiss it...
 
RedRabbit84 said:
I wouldn't be quick to dismiss it...
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Bored Paul Rudd GIF
 
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RedRabbit84 said:
The football schools want what they want. Tobacco road wants what it wants. The Big East schools want to ensure they're not left out if the A4 go through with taking over the tournament. This literally solves everyone's problems. Wins across the board, including for UConn. I wouldn't be quick to dismiss it...
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No chance on this one, none. Clemson and FSU do not want Georgetown and St. John's sitting at their table and a 29 team conference is a scheduling car crash.
 
The establishment (including Big TV) is very uncomfortable with Uconn. That scruffy little team in their backyard keeps undermining their hype and producing champions with old fashioned things like character, very hard work and above all a unified culture of unselfish teamwork. "Basketball Capital of the World" Indeed! This is going to be interesting watching how it all plays out. An interesting sideline phenomenon as the Huskies continue to grind away at what they do best.
 
dennismenace said:
The establishment (including Big TV) is very uncomfortable with Uconn. That scruffy little team in their backyard keeps undermining their hype and producing champions with old fashioned things like character, very hard work and above all a unified culture of unselfish teamwork. "Basketball Capital of the World" Indeed! This is going to be interesting watching how it all plays out. An interesting sideline phenomenon as the Huskies continue to grind away at what they do best.
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I’ve been thrilled not only watching UConn stick it to them in basketball, but also ND sticking it to them in football.
 
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