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ACC Big East merger

Can we just ignore the interloper, as he shouldn't be what is talked about, period
 
CL82 said:
Oh we're on the same team. What team was that again?
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Speaking of teams, there's only 2 teams that matter now: 1) Team Serenity Now that knows the merger has no chance happening cuz they live in the real world and see the ACC will exclude us until the day they implode, and 2)Team Cray Cray who thinks the merger will happen cuz they left reality a long long time ago, like when BCU was actually good in something other than hockey.
 
A merger of some form makes sense because it would be a major content dump for the ACC Network, put it in new markets, and the money would be at least as good as what the Big East is currently making.

Whether that means a full merger, or some form of TV and scheduling agreement, I don't know. Regardless, I think it'll be good news for UConn and UConn football.
 
KryHavok said:
Speaking of teams, there's only 2 teams that matter now: 1) Team Serenity Now that knows the merger has no chance happening cuz they live in the real world and see the ACC will exclude us until the day they implode, and 2)Team Cray Cray who thinks the merger will happen cuz they left reality a long long time ago, like when BCU was actually good in something other than hockey.
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Put me on team serenity now, though, I wouldn't say that there's no chance, just no likely chance.
 
We welcome all fans to the boneyard who come in good faith. I am 99% certain RR4 is a fan of bcu, cuse or louisville. bcu and cuse incorrectly believed they would have the upper hand and enjoyed watching UConn get left behind. It never made sense to me but that's what many believed. louisville got the last ticket instead of UConn so those fans were thrilled. I'm not sure any other fan base would have cared to keep UConn down as long as their program made the cut.

There is a 3rd team between serenity now and cray cray - purgatory. I don't expect a miracle but I still check CR every day. As long as the ACC continues to make really boneheaded moves there is a chance it finally makes a good one. It can't uninvite cuse and pitt but it can bring along the members that helped make them successful in the Big East: UConn, nova, georgetown, st. john's.
 
I could be wrong, but when the Big East had football, wasn't the big wedge pitting football schools vs non football schools lead to the destruction of the Big East and losing the P status. How would a Big East/ ACC Merger be different? I get decoupling football/basketball deals, if that would be the intention.
Maybe I just remember it different or forgot some of the details.
 
powerplay said:
I could be wrong, but when the Big East had football, wasn't the big wedge pitting football schools vs non football schools lead to the destruction of the Big East and losing the P status. How would a Big East/ ACC Merger be different? I get decoupling football/basketball deals, if that would be the intention.
Maybe I just remember it different or forgot some of the details.
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ACC destroyed the Big East. A merger would make them partners. Problem solved.
 
Kolumbo said:
ACC destroyed the Big East. A merger would make them partners. Problem solved.
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I love ya mate, but for the ACC do to that would be an omission of his badly the screwed up by not taking us years ago, I don't think they are capable of offering that mea culpa. Yes, it would solve it problems, but so would the football program winning Powerball...which maybe has a better chance of happening.^•^
 
powerplay said:
I could be wrong, but when the Big East had football, wasn't the big wedge pitting football schools vs non football schools lead to the destruction of the Big East and losing the P status. How would a Big East/ ACC Merger be different? I get decoupling football/basketball deals, if that would be the intention.
Maybe I just remember it different or forgot some of the details.
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In short; the college sports landscape is different now.
 
Kolumbo said:
ACC destroyed the Big East. A merger would make them partners. Problem solved.
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This is not accurate. Only 3 schools were left without chairs when the Big East split in the early 2010’s, and ultimately Cincinnati and even UConn found homes. The other 13 schools in the 2011 Big East were not really hurt at all by realignment.
 
nelsonmuntz said:
This is not accurate. Only 3 schools were left without chairs when the Big East split in the early 2010’s, and ultimately Cincinnati and even UConn found homes. The other 13 schools in the 2011 Big East were not really hurt at all by realignment.
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It is entirely accurate. The ACC destroyed the Big East as we knew it. I know you are a big Big East fan but the 16 team conference was regularly getting 8-10 teams in the tourney. That Big East was far better than the current Big East.

Plus, sure maybe only 3 programs were left without chairs but the others splintered off to the ACC, Big 12, Big Ten and the resulting AAC. Just because they found homes doesn't mean the Big East Conference was OK. It clearly was not.
 
nelsonmuntz said:
This is not accurate. Only 3 schools were left without chairs when the Big East split in the early 2010’s, and ultimately Cincinnati and even UConn found homes. The other 13 schools in the 2011 Big East were not really hurt at all by realignment.
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That’s like saying the bank foreclosed on your house but at least you can afford to rent an apartment.
 
Personally, I think UConn leaving the American was short sighted. I get why you guys did it, but from the outside looking in it signaled a lack of interest in football and football drives the bus. Yes there's a shifting focus to basketball, and yes that's going to ultimately benefit UConn in my opinion, but I think had you stayed in the American, you likely would've been in the Big XII by now.

Just an outsider perspective.
 
RedRabbit84 said:
Personally, I think UConn leaving the American was short sighted. I get why you guys did it, but from the outside looking in it signaled a lack of interest in football and football drives the bus. Yes there's a shifting focus to basketball, and yes that's going to ultimately benefit UConn in my opinion, but I think had you stayed in the American, you likely would've been in the Big XII by now.

Just an outsider perspective.
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Somebody has a lot of time on their hands......lol
 
RedRabbit84 said:
Personally, I think UConn leaving the American was short sighted. I get why you guys did it, but from the outside looking in it signaled a lack of interest in football and football drives the bus. Yes there's a shifting focus to basketball, and yes that's going to ultimately benefit UConn in my opinion, but I think had you stayed in the American, you likely would've been in the Big XII by now.

Just an outsider perspective.
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I think this is partly correct. The missing piece is that we would have had to invest in football like Houston and Cincinnati and SMU and even Tulane have done. Instead we nickeled and dimed it with Pasqualoni, who was washed up by the time we hired him, Diaco, then Edsall 2.0 who was shocked by the mess Diaco left then pretty much quiet quit when the move to independence was announced. Had we hired Mora (or more realistically a Mora type who knew what he was doing) instead of Edsall or Diaco we would be in the B12 . Staying in the AAC without taking football seriously would have been a disaster of the first order.

For what it’s worth, I think David Benedict got that message when he talked with the B12 and the ACC. If you listen to him now, at every opportunity he says football is important to our athletic future. He didn’t say that early in his tenure. The Mora hire was the first indication he was serious. I’ve heard him speak at multiple Alumni events recently. The message has changed.
 
freescooter said:
I think this is partly correct. The missing piece is that we would have had to invest in football like Houston and Cincinnati and SMU and even Tulane have done. Instead we nickeled and dimed it with Pasqualoni, who was washed up by the time we hired him, Diaco, then Edsall 2.0 who was shocked by the mess Diaco left then pretty much quiet quit when the move to independence was announced. Had we hired Mora (or more realistically a Mora type who knew what he was doing) instead of Edsall or Diaco we would be in the B12 . Staying in the AAC without taking football seriously would have been a disaster of the first order.

For what it’s worth, I think David Benedict got that message when he talked with the B12 and the ACC. If you listen to him now, at every opportunity he says football is important to our athletic future. He didn’t say that early in his tenure. The Mora hire was the first indication he was serious. I’ve heard him speak at multiple Alumni events recently. The message has changed.
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Diaco, on paper, wasn't a bad hire. He was a hot name up and comer assistant coach from a big program. He simply didn't work out. Hindsight is 20/20 and looking back, he clearly wasn't the guy, but every program hires a hot shoe that doesn't pan out like planned. Some guys are just better suited in the assistant coach position.
 
nelsonmuntz said:
This is not accurate. Only 3 schools were left without chairs when the Big East split in the early 2010’s, and ultimately Cincinnati and even UConn found homes. The other 13 schools in the 2011 Big East were not really hurt at all by realignment.
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I swear... sometimes, I think you're actually a Seton Hall alum in disguise.

Nobody in their right mind that roots for the Huskies would think that the ACC didn't destroy the Big East. And it didn't start in the 2010's. It literally started back in 2004 when our football team had just joined the Big East, and we watched Miami, Virginia Tech, and BC leaving what was only an 8-team conference to begin with.

You've gotta try to get better sleep at night, bro...
 
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