After the Maryland game Wes admitted that Samuels was the starter at this time but that it could change as the season goes on. I think she provides length and rebounding that Quigley doesn’t have. Quigley is maybe slightly more well rounded offensively. I think regardless they are both going to get a lot of minutes because I think there will be times when State doesn’t want to play Zoe and Zam together always. They make for a small back court and Quigley would represent a bigger 2 on the court and Q could continue at the 3 alongside her.
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After the Maryland game Wes admitted that Samuels was the starter at this time but that it could change as the season goes on. I think she provides length and rebounding that Quigley doesn’t have. Quigley is maybe slightly more well rounded offensively. I think regardless they are both going to get a lot of minutes because I think there will be times when State doesn’t want to play Zoe and Zam together always. They make for a small back court and Quigley would represent a bigger 2 on the court and Q could continue at the 3 alongside her.
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SMU is really bad.
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They weren't ready for UMBC. 🤭🤭🤭 Seems like a uniquely UVA basketball issue (see 2018 NCAA men's basketball tournament).
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The ACC has done this for awhile I think.
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Pitt is awful.
If I had to predict the ACC right now, I would go with Duke or UNC. Neither has been that impressive to me. But they have the talent to improve as the season progresses. Some of the others in the conference look a little hopeless.
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I would pick Duke or NC State.
When UNC gets drubbed their own folks report things like, "that was pretty good effort" so it's difficult to take them too seriously.
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No, not at all. Conference play usually starts in December.
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I had Duke by quite a bit preseason, but I'm switching to NC State. They don't have any bad losses and have room to grow. PG situation isn't ideal, but they didn't lose to a team that had five players for an entire half.
I do think that Duke can win the ACC Tournament again, though.
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Puff Morris, Cal's frosh point guard named ACC Rookie of the Week. Cal Women's Basketball : Puff Morris Named ACC Rookie Of The Week
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States got a lot to work on. The pieces are there I think, I was encouraged with the bench play against TCU - Quigley, Cox and Lunan gave really good minutes. The stars weren’t stars.
Zoe 2-12
Pierre 4-15
Zam 0-9
That’s pretty pathetic.
Zoe and Pierre do all their damage 15 ft and in, right now the lane is clogged. State isn’t getting good ball movement and there hasn’t been enough shooting to open things up. Quigley, Tilda and Zam are all good capable shooters - but the ball has to move to get them those looks. Zam is the only one capable of getting her own shot off the bounce from deep, but that doesn’t need to be the only way it comes.
When the ball movement improves I think you’ll see Pierre and Zoe get much cleaner looks and efficiency improve. But it’s on Zoe and Zam to get the ball moving. Pierre too for that matter. She’s fallen in love with a fade away off one leg post move that just isn’t getting it done.
Right now Tilda is the best offensive player on the team and lone floor spacer. But she doesn’t create for herself either. I love Zoe but she’s got to get the offense going with drive and kicks and ball reversals. It’s too easy to defend State right now.
Really love the potential of Lunan. She’s obviously young and is very prone to turnovers and mistakes - but you can see a high ceiling in her. Both sides of the ball.
Idk who I’d bet on to win the conference. The ACC is not looking great right now. Haven’t watching UL yet, but ND is not it, and no way I’m picking UNC to do it - probably still Duke or State at this point. It’s super early - teams grow and improve. No need for anyone to get too over the top yet about anyone.
Zoe 2-12
Pierre 4-15
Zam 0-9
That’s pretty pathetic.
Zoe and Pierre do all their damage 15 ft and in, right now the lane is clogged. State isn’t getting good ball movement and there hasn’t been enough shooting to open things up. Quigley, Tilda and Zam are all good capable shooters - but the ball has to move to get them those looks. Zam is the only one capable of getting her own shot off the bounce from deep, but that doesn’t need to be the only way it comes.
When the ball movement improves I think you’ll see Pierre and Zoe get much cleaner looks and efficiency improve. But it’s on Zoe and Zam to get the ball moving. Pierre too for that matter. She’s fallen in love with a fade away off one leg post move that just isn’t getting it done.
Right now Tilda is the best offensive player on the team and lone floor spacer. But she doesn’t create for herself either. I love Zoe but she’s got to get the offense going with drive and kicks and ball reversals. It’s too easy to defend State right now.
Really love the potential of Lunan. She’s obviously young and is very prone to turnovers and mistakes - but you can see a high ceiling in her. Both sides of the ball.
Idk who I’d bet on to win the conference. The ACC is not looking great right now. Haven’t watching UL yet, but ND is not it, and no way I’m picking UNC to do it - probably still Duke or State at this point. It’s super early - teams grow and improve. No need for anyone to get too over the top yet about anyone.
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I know this is a thread about WBB, but since its ACC related... I'll post it here. Been a Duke football fan since 1st or 2nd grade....... seen plenty of ups and downs..... more downs than ups. Multiple 0 win seasons, heartbreaking losses and such. But tonight, we won the ACC Football championship for the first time since 1962. Duke is the first school to win the ACC championship in the same calendar year in MBB, WBB, and Football. 😊😊😊
Live look at me headed to the kitchen for another celebratory donut from Donut World
Live look at me headed to the kitchen for another celebratory donut from Donut World
I had suspected this. She didn’t dress when they were in Cancun “coachs decision” and then didn’t travel to Oklahoma.
Idk what the issue is exactly, I’ve heard rumors but they are rumors and only that. I have seen with my own eyes a lack of maturity. The last game she was dressed for was Rhode Island and they lost. She didn’t play, but directly after the game when the team went to mid court for the alma mater song she was dancing, skipping, laughing and joking like in celebration mode after they just lost to freaking Rhode Island. It was bizarre. Another player had to sort of grab her arm and get her to knock it off. She hasn’t dressed since.
I don’t think that alone got her suspended, but I do think she has had issues stemming from immaturity since arriving. She was suspended I believe for a game or two last year around this time. She has a lot of untapped potential but can’t seem to put it together.
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I have heard some rumors, too. It probably wouldn't be good to discuss unsubstantiated rumors on a thread that others have access to, if for no other reason than they may not be true. I'll shoot you a private message to discuss what I heard.
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Are Notre Dame and the ACC going through a divorce or is this CFP snub the reaction of a whiny child rolling and screaming on the department store floor?
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I think it's all politics and optics. What did he expect Commissioner Jim Phillips to advocate for Notre Dame (who is not a member of the conference in football) over Miami (who IS a member of the conference for football). I think all of this is just lip service to soothe the fanbase.
Maybe this will force Notre Dame to join the ACC (or some other conference) for football. They wanted to remain independent in football, and now this sticky wicket we're experiencing now was destined to happen eventually. If they had beaten Miami, this wouldn't be an issue.
That being said...I think Notre Dame should be in the CFP over James Madison. ND was 4 points from being undefeated. JMU is good but I doubt they'd have the record they do if they had played Notre Dame's schedule.
Ok...back to WCBB!
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Is Notre Dame a part of the ACC in all sports except football?
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There will never be a perfect solution. I'm actually stunned James Madison and Tulane both got in. Also almost half the SEC got in (I'm exaggerating, but not by all that much), after the utter indignation of only 3 of their members being invited last season.
Yep and the ACC has bent over backwards for ND every step of the way. Let’s them stay independent in football. Let them play football in the conference that Covid year when they had no other path for a season. ND is a major reason Stanford and Cal are in the conference. Not sure why ND expects the ACC not to go to bat for one of their full fledged members to get in the playoff over them. The ACC is better off getting a school in than not. The ACC is better off with ND in the league as a football team too, but ND doesn’t want that. If ND would like the ACCs marketing team to promote them for the playoff maybe they should join the conference.
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Yeah, honestly this is my opinion as well. If they want ACC advocacy, then they need to jump wholly into the conference instead of taking this one-foot-in, one-foot-out approach.
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Miami shares football proceeds with other ACC members. ND doesn’t, that’s why they are not a full member. That’s why the ACC promoted Miami. Simple and natural self interest at work on both sides. Money - always trace it!
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And I will add : as long as Notre Dame insists on keeping its own TV and bowl money, they will never be offered by the SEC or BIG.
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The only reason James Madison got in was that Duke beat UVA. They showed a couple of JMU fans at the ACC championship game rooting for Duke. If UVA would have won, they would have been the #11 seed facing Ole Miss with Tulane facing Oregon.
My sister in law is a uva grad and her son currently attend a JMU. They were a house divided during the game.
If ND pulls out of the ACC because they missed the playoff that will be quite the hissy fit. Like it’s the conferences fault you lost to Miami. Why would you expect the ACC to not promote its own ? To me it feels very entitled of ND to blame the ACC. I get the frustration with the committee. They were touted as being in the whole time and then suddenly it flipped without them playing a game. But how is that the ACCs fault? Be mad at the SEC for Alabama getting in and jumping up in the rankings after beating 5-7 Auburn by a whisker. Just feels like they are lashing out and taking out their frustrations on the wrong people.
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