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Just want to shout out Marta Suarez. I've always liked her and her game. She seems to be in the best shape of her career and it's allowed her to play the type of game she always had. She has great versatility, and can play a bit inside and out. Cal is a fun team.
 
jdote33 said:


Just want to shout out Marta Suarez. I've always liked her and her game. She seems to be in the best shape of her career and it's allowed her to play the type of game she always had. She has great versatility, and can play a bit inside and out. Cal is a fun team.
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Marta is great. A fine player and fun personality too. Meanwhile, this was also fun to witness:
 
CalWBBfan said:
Marta is great. A fine player and fun personality too. Meanwhile, this was also fun to witness:
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OK Marta's awesome, super happy for Charm, etc. etc. etc. Yada Yada Yada. Now let's stop before I...

Sad Jim Carrey GIF
 
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The jackets continue to show they are this years surprise team in the league! Really nice, convincing win for them today in chapel hill.

State torched Louisville at Louisville. I think I heard L’ville has lost only 11 games at home in the last 8+ seasons - 3 of which are to State.

The guards were great. 11 and 9 for James with 5 assists. 14 and 13 for Rivers. 11 for Zoe. 18 for Zam off the bench on 7 of 8 shooting!

State got serviceable play in the post, Collier started and got 6 and 4 and Trygger had 4 points 10 rebounds off the bench. State outrebounded Louisville as well.

The cardinals went 2-23 from 3, not sure why they jacked up so many. Did not test state on the interior and settled for jumpers over and over.
 
FanInNC said:
The jackets continue to show they are this years surprise team in the league! Really nice, convincing win for them today in chapel hill.

State torched Louisville at Louisville. I think I heard L’ville has lost only 11 games at home in the last 8+ seasons - 3 of which are to State.

The guards were great. 11 and 9 for James with 5 assists. 14 and 13 for Rivers. 11 for Zoe. 18 for Zam off the bench on 7 of 8 shooting!

State got serviceable play in the post, Collier started and got 6 and 4 and Trygger had 4 points 10 rebounds off the bench. State outrebounded Louisville as well.

The cardinals went 2-23 from 3, not sure why they jacked up so many. Did not test state on the interior and settled for jumpers over and over.
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Georgia Tech and coach Fortner have always played their heart out. Glad they have the team to make a move this year.

Louisville feels like Cochran and a bunch of freshman. Will Walz use this year to develop the young talent or waste them with his screaming is my question.
 
FanInNC said:
Perhaps time to ditch the offseason thread now that the season is upon us?

The conference opened up 14-1 yesterday with the lone loss being Louisville dropping one to 5th ranked UCLA.

To start the season the conference has 6 ranked schools :

6 Notre Dame
9 NC State
11 Duke
15 UNC
17 Louisville
19 Florida State

I’ll be in Raleigh tonight to watch the Packs season opener and witness a banner raising for last years Final Four run.
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AP poll is out and ND moved above Uconn at #3. Top five is:
1 UCLA
2. South Carolina
3. Notre Dame
4. UConn
5. LSU

To update your list:
3. Notre Dame
9. DUKE
17. Georgia Tech
19. UNC
21. NC State
Louisville and Florida State are unranked.

Not looking good for the ACC as a whole.
 
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DallasDomer said:
AP poll is out and ND moved above Uconn at #3. Top five is:
1 UCLA
2. South Carolina
3. Notre Dame
4. UConn
5. LSU

To update your list:
3. Notre Dame
9. DUKE
17. Georgia Tech
19. UNC
21. NC State
Louisville and Florida State are unranked.

Not looking good for the ACC as a whole.
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I missed California at #24 apologies.
 
DallasDomer said:
AP poll is out and ND moved above Uconn at #3. Top five is:
1 UCLA
2. South Carolina
3. Notre Dame
4. UConn
5. LSU

To update your list:
3. Notre Dame
9. DUKE
17. Georgia Tech
19. UNC
21. NC State
Louisville and Florida State are unranked.

Not looking good for the ACC as a whole.
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Cal is ranked 24 in AP poll....
 
DallasDomer said:
AP poll is out and ND moved above Uconn at #3. Top five is:
1 UCLA
2. South Carolina
3. Notre Dame
4. UConn
5. LSU

To update your list:
3. Notre Dame
9. DUKE
17. Georgia Tech
19. UNC
21. NC State
Louisville and Florida State are unranked.

Not looking good for the ACC as a whole.
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As they (Louisville and FSU) should be. They're not good.

The conference is shaping up to be what many would've expected--third place at best behind the big dawgs (B1G and SEC).
 
nwhoopfan said:
How long has it been? I'm assuming since Anigwe finished up her career there.
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The California women's basketball team is nationally ranked for the first time under head coach Charmin Smith, coming in at No. 24 in the Associated Press Top 25 Women's College Basketball Poll released Monday. This is the first time the Golden Bears have been in the AP Top 25 poll since being ranked No. 24 on Jan. 7, 2019. - Cal Enters AP Top 25 Poll - California Golden Bears Athletics
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WBBTakeover said:
As they (Louisville and FSU) should be. They're not good.

The conference is shaping up to be what many would've expected--third place at best behind the big dawgs (B1G and SEC).
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The hell with the Big Dawgs...time for the ACC to take some of these Big Dawgs to the veterinarians.... If you catch my drift :eek:
 
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Eh - I don’t think the conferences are drastically different. I agree that at this point the ACC is running in 3rd. But when I look at the SEC SC and LSU are a cut above - after that … idk. Some solid squads, no one that strikes fear in me. Similar in the Big 10 UCLA and USC stand out and I know there are good teams there - maybe Maryland is on that level? Idk. Some of those squads that are ranked in the BIG 10 haven’t exactly challenged themselves in the out of conference.

The ACC has ND and Duke sort of separating themselves and then a similar cluster of solid teams before it falls off a cliff.

SOS is something to consider too. If Louisville had played Ohio state, maryland or Michigan states schedule they’d probably be ranked 15th and have 1 or 2 losses. Not that Louisville is great, but they’ve challenged themselves and been exposed more than some of these teams I’m looking at in the SEC and big 10.
 
triaddukefan said:
The hell with the Big Dawgs...time for the ACC to take some of these Big Dawgs to the veterinarians.... If you catch my drift :eek:
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When that happens, please let me know. Because I saw the SEC/ACC Challenge. One conference had double-digit wins--and it wasn't the ACC.
 
FanInNC said:
Eh - I don’t think the conferences are drastically different. I agree that at this point the ACC is running in 3rd. But when I look at the SEC SC and LSU are a cut above - after that … idk. Some solid squads, no one that strikes fear in me. Similar in the Big 10 UCLA and USC stand out and I know there are good teams there - maybe Maryland is on that level? Idk. Some of those squads that are ranked in the BIG 10 haven’t exactly challenged themselves in the out of conference.

The ACC has ND and Duke sort of separating themselves and then a similar cluster of solid teams before it falls off a cliff.

SOS is something to consider too. If Louisville had played Ohio state, maryland or Michigan states schedule they’d probably be ranked 15th and have 1 or 2 losses. Not that Louisville is great, but they’ve challenged themselves and been exposed more than some of these teams I’m looking at in the SEC and big 10.
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Yeah, no. Not buying that one at all.
 
Good piece in SF Chronicle today as to why this year's Cal team is so improved.

Why is Cal women’s basketball so much better this season? These stats are revealing​

This year has been different, though, in look and feel of the games and statistically. But why is Cal so much better this season? Head coach Charmin Smith has done work in the transfer portal the past two seasons and recruited one of the top classes in the country to create an offensive juggernaut that can get stops.
Mostly, according to the analytics, this version of Cal (11-1, No. 24 in the country) is extremely productive.
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Here's a gift link to the full piece: Why is Cal women’s basketball so much better this season? full article
 
Just saw the UVA/ND score. YIKES!!!! This is Year 3 for Mox, BTW--and yet we continue to see a dumpster fire. There is no positive momentum for this program. It's a complete and total mess. Nobody in Hoo-land talks about it because (1) football and men's basketball programs are also dumpster fires and (2) the athletic department "insiders" convinced us that this hire was definitely the post-Debbie Ryan hire that would pan out (even though the previous two failed--so there was precedent to suggest that yet another hire that had no ties to the university would ultimately fail).

If Alexis Ohanian (UVA alum) wants to use his money wisely, he'll buy out Mox's contract and start over. Find an alum and go from there.
 
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WBBTakeover said:
Just saw the UVA/ND score. YIKES!!!! This is Year 3 for Mox, BTW--and yet we continue to see a dumpster fire. There is no positive momentum for this program. It's a complete and total mess. Nobody in Hoo-land talks about it because (1) football and men's basketball programs are also dumpster fires and (2) the athletic department "insiders" convinced us that this hire was definitely the post-Debbie Ryan hire that would pan out (even though the previous two failed--so there was precedent to suggest that yet another hire that had no ties to the university would ultimately fail).

If Alexis Ohanian (UVA alum) wants to use his money wisely, he'll buy out Mox's contract and start over. Find an alum and go from there.
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As a UVA alum I sure hope they do not take this approach. I would be extremely disappointed in my alma mater. Nothing infuriates me more than when a coach is denied resources for years, gets fired, and then their successor is given the keys to the kingdom and everyone thinks they are just a fabulous coach. Let's see what Coach Mox can do with adequate resources If she doesn't produce after that, then look for a new coach. NIL and conference tv deals run recruiting now. UVA's cupboards were almost bare at every level until Ohanian's generous commitment. Only fair to let Mox try with a more even playing field.
 
WBBTakeover said:
Just saw the UVA/ND score. YIKES!!!! This is Year 3 for Mox, BTW--and yet we continue to see a dumpster fire. There is no positive momentum for this program. It's a complete and total mess. Nobody in Hoo-land talks about it because (1) football and men's basketball programs are also dumpster fires and (2) the athletic department "insiders" convinced us that this hire was definitely the post-Debbie Ryan hire that would pan out (even though the previous two failed--so there was precedent to suggest that yet another hire that had no ties to the university would ultimately fail).

If Alexis Ohanian (UVA alum) wants to use his money wisely, he'll buy out Mox's contract and start over. Find an alum and go from there.
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I was at the game and would agree that even though there was a talent disparity, ND ran efficient set plays to beat the Hoos zone, while the Hoos didn't play much of a team oriented offense at all. Consequently, ND had 32 assists to VA's 8.
 
WBBTakeover said:
Just saw the UVA/ND score. YIKES!!!! This is Year 3 for Mox, BTW--and yet we continue to see a dumpster fire. There is no positive momentum for this program. It's a complete and total mess. Nobody in Hoo-land talks about it because (1) football and men's basketball programs are also dumpster fires and (2) the athletic department "insiders" convinced us that this hire was definitely the post-Debbie Ryan hire that would pan out (even though the previous two failed--so there was precedent to suggest that yet another hire that had no ties to the university would ultimately fail).

If Alexis Ohanian (UVA alum) wants to use his money wisely, he'll buy out Mox's contract and start over. Find an alum and go from there.
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Well UVA was playing at #3 Notre Dame to expect a strong performance might be a stretch. Going up against the #1 or 2 leading scorer and steals leader in Hidalgo, then Miles is top 5 in assists and just got her third triple double this year, a top ten rebounder in King, then top it of with the #2 in blocks, Koval, it's not a recipe for a good day.

Check them out again with different competition.
 
DallasDomer said:
Well UVA was playing at #3 Notre Dame to expect a strong performance might be a stretch. Going up against the #1 or 2 leading scorer and steals leader in Hidalgo, then Miles is top 5 in assists and just got her third triple double this year, a top ten rebounder in King, then top it of with the #2 in blocks, Koval, it's not a recipe for a good day.

Check them out again with different competition.
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They beat Coppin State by 8 points (same Coppin State team that just lost to Maine by 11). How's that?

For comparison's sake, Coppin State lost to UNC by 26 and to Virginia Tech by 35.

Everyone knows that Notre Dame is really, really good. I've said that many times. However, no one wants to accept that UVA is really, really bad.
 
Ladeeeeda said:
As a UVA alum I sure hope they do not take this approach. I would be extremely disappointed in my alma mater. Nothing infuriates me more than when a coach is denied resources for years, gets fired, and then their successor is given the keys to the kingdom and everyone thinks they are just a fabulous coach. Let's see what Coach Mox can do with adequate resources If she doesn't produce after that, then look for a new coach. NIL and conference tv deals run recruiting now. UVA's cupboards were almost bare at every level until Ohanian's generous commitment. Only fair to let Mox try with a more even playing field.
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Why, though? What's the sense in throwing money at a problem that will still be a problem? Mox's coaching is a problem (teams oftentimes look unprepared, undisciplined, and unmotivated). Will $776,000 a year for NIL (which will, presumably, be spread out among the entire team) change that? I don't think so. UVA may be able to overpay for third-rate talent for that price tag, but that may get the program back to the NCAA Tournament. It won't guarantee anything beyond that unless there is a change in leadership.

We just saw what happened when Miami football tried to buy its way into the College Football Playoffs after a disappointing season. Losses to Georgia Tech and Syracuse (both inferior programs to Miami) ultimately kept them out of the playoffs. Why did that happen? Coaching. Mario Cristobal is not a good coach. So even if you throw money at a problem (on-the-field production), that doesn't truly address the root cause (coaching) of said problem.

I've heard for years (from UVA alums) that UVA has so much to offer in terms of academic reputation and other resources (facilities, support from administration, etc.). I've heard UVA fans claim that their team should be a Top 25 program minimum every year. Recruits should be lining up for the opportunity to attend. But now it's, "let's give Mox time and resources"--even though that runs counter to everything that UVA fans have been claiming since Debbie was forced out 15 years ago. It sounds to me like fans have bought into what Mox is selling and desperately want things to work out for her despite what's in the tea leaves.
 
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