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Butch said:
I'll just say he doesn't appear to be a completely competent or even reliable Muslim "scholar".
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I read about the book in an article reporting on the FOX interview with him that went viral. What he said about Jesus sounded compelling to me, so I picked up the book. As I understand it, he is not necessarily a scholar on Islam; rather, he is a religious scholar who happens to be a Muslim.

Anyway, I was just curious for the reaction from a Muslim. Thanks.
 
8893 said:
I read about the book in an article reporting on the FOX interview with him that went viral. What he said about Jesus sounded compelling to me, so I picked up the book. As I understand it, he is not necessarily a scholar on Islam; rather, he is a religious scholar who happens to be a Muslim.

Anyway, I was just curious for the reaction from a Muslim. Thanks.
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It looks to me like someone who is just analyzing "Jesus" using the New Testament. What he says about Paul is nothing new. The apostles of "Jesus" rejected Paul after his "conversion". Except Peter, supposedly.
 
8893 said:
I read about the book in an article reporting on the FOX interview with him that went viral. What he said about Jesus sounded compelling to me, so I picked up the book. As I understand it, he is not necessarily a scholar on Islam; rather, he is a religious scholar who happens to be a Muslim.

Anyway, I was just curious for the reaction from a Muslim. Thanks.
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It's ironic he even goes against what Islam teaches. PM me if you want. That lady seemed offended. lol
 
8893 said:
I read about the book in an article reporting on the FOX interview with him that went viral. What he said about Jesus sounded compelling to me, so I picked up the book. As I understand it, he is not necessarily a scholar on Islam; rather, he is a religious scholar who happens to be a Muslim.

Anyway, I was just curious for the reaction from a Muslim. Thanks.
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It's a thought provoking read. He's a smart guy. No God But God is good as well.
 
Butch said:
I'll just say there are people who are smarter and more eloquent.
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I'm not really invested in this one way or another, but that's a pretty dumb comment given that you had never heard of either the book or the author until this thread.
 
While I understand some people think religion will keep Abu from Providence, PC would not have made it to his final four options if that were the case. I will admit that being a Catholic college is not exactly a selling point for a devoted Muslim, but they clearly have addressed any concerns he may have. Every person is different so, it is tough to judge what will be important to him and there are enough positives for both UConn and PC to make the cut to this point.
 
We don't know that PC's Catholic nature is a negative for Abu. You could as easily say that UConn's secular nature is a negative. It's possible that he respects religious faith and prefers to be among faithful Christians rather than irreligious people.
 
pj said:
We don't know that PC's Catholic nature is a negative for Abu. You could as easily say that UConn's secular nature is a negative. It's possible that he respects religious faith and prefers to be among faithful Christians rather than irreligious people.
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UConn, a bastion of the irreligious? I know PC might not have 100% dogmatic Catholics, but I assume a huge percentage are practicing.
 
pj said:
We don't know that PC's Catholic nature is a negative for Abu. You could as easily say that UConn's secular nature is a negative. It's possible that he respects religious faith and prefers to be among faithful Christians rather than irreligious people.
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Kind of the same reason Butch's father sent him to Prep.
As opposed to Central, Harding, Trumbull.or whoever else.
The lesser of two evils.
 
upstater said:
UConn, a bastion of the irreligious? I know PC might not have 100% dogmatic Catholics, but I assume a huge percentage are practicing.
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Of course UConn has religious students and staff, such as Kevin Ollie, but insofar as their religious, they're mostly Christians which makes them a wash with PC's Christians.

However, if Abu does prefer to be around faithful Christians, then Ollie's faith might work for us here. Surely the coach-player relationship is by far the most important.
 
BigErnMcCracken said:
I'm not really invested in this one way or another, but that's a pretty dumb comment given that you had never heard of either the book or the author until this thread.
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When you are "very deeply invested" for 20 years, it's not hard to see who's really good.

If he is so great, I'd have heard about him. I hang around people who have intellectual and analytical inclinations. What I've heard him say so far is nothing new.
 
AZHuskiePop said:
Kind of the same reason Butch's father sent him to Prep.
As opposed to Central, Harding, Trumbull.or whoever else.
The lesser of two evils.
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I was sent to Prep for the education. Great school (with an excellent athletics department). But unfortunately, the tuition is now over $15,000 a year.

(Drops out of the thread.)
 
I will never understand this kind of thing. This is one of the biggest decisions someone can make for themselves. This is their future in this one single life that they know they will have, and some actually let idiotic metaphysical claims from the illiterate, barbaric bronze-age Middle East dictate their decisions in our modern society. Pick a school based on the girls. Pick a school based on its location. Pick a school based on PT. Pick a school based on the opportunities it offers you. Don't pick a school based on how many people worship one imaginary sky dictator over another.
 
babysheep said:
I will never understand this kind of thing. This is one of the biggest decisions someone can make for themselves. This is their future in this one single life that they know they will have, and some actually let idiotic metaphysical claims from the illiterate, barbaric bronze-age Middle East dictate their decisions in our modern society. Pick a school based on the girls. Pick a school based on its location. Pick a school based on PT. Pick a school based on the opportunities it offers you. Don't pick a school based on how many people worship one imaginary sky dictator over another.
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What does the region have to do with the religion? When that religion came up in that region, they were eons ahead of Europeans in math, science and philosophy. Obviously, these two facts don't have much correlation. Nor do they correlate well elsewhere either.
 
babysheep said:
I will never understand this kind of thing. This is one of the biggest decisions someone can make for themselves. This is their future in this one single life that they know they will have, and some actually let idiotic metaphysical claims from the illiterate, barbaric bronze-age Middle East dictate their decisions in our modern society. Pick a school based on the girls. Pick a school based on its location. Pick a school based on PT. Pick a school based on the opportunities it offers you. Don't pick a school based on how many people worship one imaginary sky dictator over another.
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Way to be tolerant, dude...
 
upstater said:
What does the region have to do with the religion? When that religion came up in that region, they were eons ahead of Europeans in math, science and philosophy. Obviously, these two facts don't have much correlation. Nor do they correlate well elsewhere either.
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Region has nothing to do with it. I don't think the people responsible for the great contributions of the Middle East, such as algebra, are the same who tried to convince the world that a woman who is found to not be a virgin on the day of her marriage must be stoned by her father. I'm simply stating my disappointment that insane ideologies from insane people from such a generally insane time and place still influence the decisions people make today.
 
Brownie said:
Way to be tolerant, dude...
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Well obviously I'm being tolerant; I'm not going around trying to find AMA and force him to stop pretending to believe in some god (interestingly, his faith tells him that he ought to kill a non-believer like me, speaking of tolerance). I just don't get how/why someone can allow something like this to influence such a major decision. It makes no difference to me, of course. It's his life.
 
babysheep said:
I will never understand this kind of thing. This is one of the biggest decisions someone can make for themselves. This is their future in this one single life that they know they will have, and some actually let idiotic metaphysical claims from the illiterate, barbaric bronze-age Middle East dictate their decisions in our modern society. Pick a school based on the girls. Pick a school based on its location. Pick a school based on PT. Pick a school based on the opportunities it offers you. Don't pick a school based on how many people worship one imaginary sky dictator over another.
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I'm not a religious person and think far more bad has been done in the name of religion than good but totally being dismissive of ones beliefs is intolerant and close-minded.
 
superjohn said:
I'm not a religious person and think far more bad has been done in the name of religion than good but totally being dismissive of ones beliefs is intolerant and close-minded.
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Would you ever choose a university based on how many people there like the movie Avatar? That's what I'm getting at here. Some people use made-up fantasy stories in their decision making process here in the real world. And in some cases, it influences monumental decisions, and I find that disheartening. I'm not being dismissive of the beliefs themselves in this case. Read carefully and don't just latch on to the words I use.
 
babysheep said:
Would you ever choose a university based on how many people there like the movie Avatar? That's what I'm getting at here. Some people use made-up fantasy stories in their decision making process here in the real world. And in some cases, it influences monumental decisions, and I find that disheartening. I'm not being dismissive of the beliefs themselves in this case. Read carefully and don't just latch on to the words I use.
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You've lost me, so you're not comparing someone really liking the movie Avatar with someone being a devout religious person?
 
babysheep said:
Region has nothing to do with it. I don't think the people responsible for the great contributions of the Middle East, such as algebra, are the same who tried to convince the world that a woman who is found to not be a virgin on the day of her marriage must be stoned by her father. I'm simply stating my disappointment that insane ideologies from insane people from such a generally insane time and place still influence the decisions people make today.
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Well, it is the same region. That's my point. Algebra and stoning. Same region.
 
superjohn said:
I'm not a religious person and think far more bad has been done in the name of religion than good but totally being dismissive of ones beliefs is intolerant and close-minded.
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I would say being intolerant of others is close-minded. It's hard not be dismissive of beliefs. Some of these people are friends and family.
 
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