Abu's religion importance

[superjohn]

I've seen people speculate that Chukwu is getting pushed to Providence or St. Joe's because they are Catholic schools just like Fairfield Prep where he is now. We all know that AMA's religion is extremely important to him, Providence College is a Catholic school with no Muslim community, if you know much about the campus Catholicism is a big part of life there and they have an extremely homogeneous community, with mostly all of the kids being Irish Catholic or Italian Catholics from Mass, CT., NJ and RI. UConn has a much more diverse campus with it's own Muslim Student Association. Besides being a much better choice basketball wise I would also think AMA would be much more comfortable in an environment like UConn as opposed to Providence.

 

[CTBasketball]

There's a Muslim community off-campus somewhere in the bowels of Providence. In my opinion, it doesn't compare to UConn's.

 

[Burnsbros23]

I don't think any of us know if religion is extremely important to him. I really don't think he ends up at Providence. Us Florida or NC State.

 

[superjohn]

I don't think any of us know if religion is extremely important to him. I really don't think he ends up at Providence. Us Florida or NC State.

He fasts for Ramadan and prays 5 times a day, I would say religion is pretty important to him.

 

[ctchamps]

I don't think any of us know if religion is extremely important to him. I really don't think he ends up at Providence. Us Florida or NC State.

I would guess it's extremely important to him. He maintained his fast for Ramadan while appearing at events over the summer.

With that said I don't believe a schools affiliation or non affiliation with any religion will have the same influence on Abu's decision making process as it seems to be having on Chukwa's.

 

[Burnsbros23]

He fasts for Ramadan and prays 5 times a day, I would say religion is pretty important to him.

Right but the otherside of that argument is if religon was a factor in his decision how is Providence in his final four?

 

[Chief00]

Khalid El Amin

 

[Fishy]

I've seen people speculate that Chukwu is getting pushed to Providence or St. Joe's because they are Catholic schools just like Fairfield Prep where he is now. We all know that AMA's religion is extremely important to him, Providence College is a Catholic school with no Muslim community, if you know much about the campus Catholicism is a big part of life there and they have an extremely homogeneous community, with mostly all of the kids being Irish Catholic or Italian Catholics from Mass, CT., NJ and RI. UConn has a much more diverse campus with it's own Muslim Student Association. Besides being a much better choice basketball wise I would also think AMA would be much more comfortable in an environment like UConn as opposed to Providence.

Do you think he knows that instead of making players run wind sprints when they screw up, Providence actually nails players to a cross?

This post represents a depth of thinking about recruiting that I just cannot manage. My guess is that he'll just pick the coach he likes the most and go from there.

 

[noeynox]

OP just seems creepy to me. Like were trying to sway the kid with our posts. Very RU football board like.

 

[seanmc94]

just curious; what are your assumptions on the religious culture at PC based on?

 

[BeanTownBob]

This is a fruitless endeavor, and honestly seems like grasping at straws. If you are trying to compare UCONN to PC sure, I guess this could be a factor although highly unlikely. Plus I'd be willing to bet that NC State and Florida have comparable if not larger Muslim communities.

A kid chooses a basketball school mainly based upon the coach/pedigree of school. They spend the vast majority of their time with their coaching staff and teammates. AMA's mature demeanor plus the fact that he has his list down from countless schools to four make's it pretty obvious to me that none of the school's on his list would impede his religious practice.

Cuncel da thread.

 

[UConNation]

Kill this thread before it turns into another Leron Black-esque thread.

 

[Adios]

I am a Muslim myself (an extremely lousy one) and went to Fairfield Prep. All my father said to me about the school before I started was don't believe what they say about Islam. Do I regret going to Prep? No. Was he right? L O L. He sure was.

The clergymen had FAR more respect for me than the laymen. Some laymen teachers (males, the females were cool) were giving me weird looks as if I am from a different planet and was invading. My senior year theology teacher was giving me looks of hatred, while I was just standing there, all naive and smiling. FWIW, I am a seeker of the truth. If Satanism was the absolute truth, I'd be a Satanist.

COME TO UCONN, MALIK ABU! (Minimize contact with the MSA, though. Saudi-funded.)

 

[ctchamps]

I am a Muslim myself (an extremely lousy one) and went to Fairfield Prep. All my father said to me about the school before I started was don't believe what they say about Islam. Do I regret going to Prep? No. Was he right? L O L. He sure was.

The clergymen had FAR more respect for me than the laymen. Some laymen teachers (males, the females were cool) were giving me weird looks as if I am from a different planet and was invading. My senior year theology teacher was giving me looks of hatred, while I was just standing there, all naive and smiling. FWIW, I am a seeker of the truth. If Satanism was the absolute truth, I'd be a Satanist.

COME TO UCONN, MALIK ABU! (Minimize contact with the MSA, though. Saudi-funded.)

What's your opinion as to why the clergy had more respect than the lay people?

 

[Adios]

What's your opinion as to why the clergy had more respect than the lay people?

I would have to assume at least some Jesuits are more open-minded. Lay people seem to be more image-driven. There are plenty of people who have religious authority in other religions who say very kind words about Islam. A true scholar of theology doesn't disrespect any religion/belief system.

 

[upstater]

I am a Muslim myself (an extremely lousy one) and went to Fairfield Prep. All my father said to me about the school before I started was don't believe what they say about Islam. Do I regret going to Prep? No. Was he right? L O L. He sure was.

The clergymen had FAR more respect for me than the laymen. Some laymen teachers (males, the females were cool) were giving me weird looks as if I am from a different planet and was invading. My senior year theology teacher was giving me looks of hatred, while I was just standing there, all naive and smiling. FWIW, I am a seeker of the truth. If Satanism was the absolute truth, I'd be a Satanist.

COME TO UCONN, MALIK ABU! (Minimize contact with the MSA, though. Saudi-funded.)

I know exactly what you're talking about. Some insane things were said about Jewish people (with Jews in the classroom) at my Catholic HS. It was hard to believe and made your jaw drop.

As for Catholic colleges, I think they used to be a lot more open-minded in the 1970s and 1980s. Not so much now. Things have changed. Bros. of Holy Cross (people that run ND) were one of the more open-minded groups, but things like contraception handouts are no longer tolerated. They were once. Heck, I went to a BofHC school and the Biology teacher also taught Sex-Ed one week by unrolling a condom over a dildo.

 

[Adios]

I know exactly what you're talking about. Some insane things were said about Jewish people (with Jews in the classroom) at my Catholic HS. It was hard to believe and made your jaw drop.

As for Catholic colleges, I think they used to be a lot more open-minded in the 1970s and 1980s. Not so much now. Things have changed. Bros. of Holy Cross (people that run ND) were one of the more open-minded groups, but things like contraception handouts are no longer tolerated. They were once. Heck, I went to a BofHC school and the Biology teacher also taught s e x-Ed one week by unrolling a condom over a dildo.

For a school that is religiously affiliated to follow their religion's teachings is perfectly OK with me. That's the point of religious affiliation. As long as no one is abused, murdered, etc. But at the same time, religion/spirituality/whatever you want to call it is and has been very heavily abused, by people at all levels. If you ask me, that's why there's so many theological perspectives. We're all under one sky. Can only be one explanation to what's going on. But people love being their own prophets. But in the end, to each their own. Personally, I only wish the best for all.

In this era we are in, people are forced to be more open-minded because of the deeper global/melting pot approach to life than before. If they can't accept others, they will certainly not make their own lives easier. I am hearing about institutions in the Deep South being taught to be more tolerant these days.

 

[ctchamps]

I would have to assume at least some Jesuits are more open-minded. Lay people seem to be more image-driven. There are plenty of people who have religious authority in other religions who say very kind words about Islam. A true scholar of theology doesn't disrespect any religion/belief system.

My impression is that for much of the way the universe works there is a bell shaped curve. It certainly holds true for human behavior. In this case we are talking about tolerance. There is quite a variation of tolerance amongst clergy, amongst lay people or people affiliated with various religions or secularists or uneducated or educated or even those of us who come to these forums. And tolerance will vary even with those we define as tolerant or intolerant depending on specific subjects. Furthermore people change. 9/11 for instance increased intolerance/animosity. You were hitting the tolerant part of the bell curve with the clergy and the intolerant part with the lay people with regards to your being a Muslim at Fairfield Prep.

Sounds like your dad has wisdom.

 

[Adios]

Plus I'd be willing to bet that NC State and Florida have comparable if not larger Muslim communities.

Larger than UConn? If I was a gambler, I'd be willing to bet on that.

 

[Adios]

My impression is that for much of the way the universe works there is a bell shaped curve. It certainly holds true for human behavior. In this case we are talking about tolerance. There is quite a variation of tolerance amongst clergy, amongst lay people or people affiliated with various religions or secularists or uneducated or educated or even those of us who come to these forums. And tolerance will vary even with those we define as tolerant or intolerant depending on specific subjects. Furthermore people change. 9/11 for instance increased intolerance/animosity. You were hitting the tolerant part of the bell curve with the clergy and the intolerant part with the lay people with regards to your being a Muslim at Fairfield Prep.

Sounds like your dad has wisdom.

What you said about the spectrum of human behavior representing a bell shape sure makes complete sense. It's always the minority who are deeply analytical, considerate, thoughtful people. Majority have a mob mentality. As for my father having wisdom, that's easily debatable. lol I've learned more on my own or from others than from him. So be it.

 

[8893]

Butch, have you read Reza Aslan's Zealot yet? I picked it up a few weeks ago and like what I've read so far. Curious what you think of it if you are familiar with it.

 

[ctchamps]

What you said about the spectrum of human behavior representing a bell shape sure makes complete sense. It's always the minority who are deeply analytical, considerate, thoughtful people. Majority have a mob mentality. As for my father having wisdom, that's easily debatable. lol I've learned more on my own or from others than from him. So be it.

My philosophy is that the sum total of all our best qualities is a minute, immeasurable fraction of perfection. And I lean to the concept that there exists something that is perfection and it is not just some fabrication of a our wishful thinking. With that said, comparing any of us to each other as to who is better or who is doing things better is fine and dandy but moot when comparing ourselves to the ideal. Certainly we need identifiers to take steps to approach the ideal, but the leaders are no more or less important, relatively speaking, than those resisting the approach.

The interesting thing is that a lot of destruction has taken place because of the combination of intense passion over seeking perfection combined with our limitations. People who are truly gracious recognize their limitations, and don't try to impose their path to perfection on others. I wouldn't say religion is the root problem. It's the lack of graciousness that get's us into trouble.

 

[Adios]

Butch, have you read Reza Aslan's Zealot yet? I picked it up a few weeks ago and like what I've read so far. Curious what you think of it if you are familiar with it.

Never heard of it but looking it up now. Going by what I am seeing on amazon.com, it doesn't sound right. Personally, I follow "sufism". That's the oldest school of thought in Sunni Islam and very widely respected. New Agers even rip it off.

From my understanding, all "prophets" are somewhat comparable to Star Wars' Jedi knights. They were on missions with whatever situations at hand. You don't hear about Noah or Abraham being in battles. You don't even hear about Moses fighting any battle when escaping the pharoah. But, I'd prefer not to get into that here. I already see an issue with what I am reading. I'll just say he doesn't appear to be a completely competent or even reliable Muslim "scholar".

End of discussion about religion by me. Went way OT. lol

 

[Adios]

My philosophy is that the sum total of all our best qualities is a minute, immeasurable fraction of perfection. And I lean to the concept that there exists something that is perfection and it is not just some fabrication of a our wishful thinking. With that said, comparing any of us to each other as to who is better or who is doing things better is fine and dandy but moot when comparing ourselves to the ideal. Certainly we need identifiers to take steps to approach the ideal, but the leaders are no more or less important, relatively speaking, than those resisting the approach.

The interesting thing is that a lot of destruction has taken place because of the combination of intense passion over seeking perfection combined with our limitations. People who are truly gracious recognize their limitations, and don't try to impose their path to perfection on others. I wouldn't say religion is the root problem. It's the lack of graciousness that get's us into trouble.

The root of all evil is love for the ego, the self that dies.

 

[ctchamps]

The root of all evil is love for the ego, the self that dies.

Yes there is the battle for survival, the internal program of life, and the path towards a higher good. More root than graciousness!