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I think you are forming your opinions based on a lot of rumors where no one went on the record. It's no coincidence this one media outlet who is reporting that these "sources" mentioned the $1 million NIL pricetag did it at the same time they were reporting that LSU was out of contention for Chavez. Certainly seems logical that these "sources" were Kim Mulkey or someone on her LSU coaching staff; they're the only ones who would have leaked this as the other finalists were still recruiting Chavez. Are they trying to muddy the waters for the other finalists, or hinder and hurt Chavez's recruitment by other colleges so that the "price" goes down and gives LSU a chance to get back in the race? Someone had an agenda leaking that information, whether it's true or not.

As a college program recruiting elite players, you can't "wait" until a high school player proves themselves in college. It's way too late; someone else already got them on campus. Yes, you can hope they enter the transfer portal but by that time the price has gone up for a freshman who had an instant impact in the game (like a Juju, Hidalgo, Booker, etc.).

As for Nike, they have been signing high school hoopsters to shoe deals for decades, I believe. Same for adidas. They didn't wait until they proved themselves in college. It's all about forecasting. If you think a high school recruit has "it", then you pull out all the stops.
I didn't evaluate the source. If it was LSU I wouldn't trust it at all but the quote I saw was "However, according to On3,..." So it sounds more credible.
 
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I didn't evaluate the source. If it was LSU I wouldn't trust it at all but the quote I saw was "However, according to On3,..." So it sounds more credible.
And Talia said multiple programs so suspecting she got this info from multiple parties.
 

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I didn't evaluate the source. If it was LSU I wouldn't trust it at all but the quote I saw was "However, according to On3,..." So it sounds more credible.

Not sure which quote you saw; perhaps you can link it.

The blurb from On3 reporter Talia Goodman read as pasted below and simply states "according to sources":

“Back in July, LSU and Texas emerged as front runners to ultimately land Aaliyah Chavez. However, LSU has taken itself out of the running as, according to sources, her camp has asked programs for an excess of $1 million dollars in NIL support.

Sure seems like LSU is the source.
 
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I thought players "earned" most of their NIL money after they showed great talent on the court for a major program........if you're an exceptional player with flair the big NIL money will surely find you.........what if a player turns out to be less of a talent than first thought? .......does that one million dollars disappear? ...........we all know how this is going to end up.......5 - 10 programs with huge booster money will get 80% of the best talent while everybody else looks to sign the remaining recruits leading two a two or three-tier system, destroying the competitive balance WBB has achieved in recent years........very sad stuff indeed.......:(
 
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This is such a huge point I think many forget. Yes, these athletes are getting their schooling covered, etc., but it pales in comparison to what a lot of these P4 schools have made in TV deals, sports merchandising, video games, coaching salaries, etc. The NCAA could have made adjustments a long time ago. It shouldn't have taken lawsuits like the O'Bannon case and the states bringing in legislation to get to this point.

And when the NCAA relented to NIL, they failed to put in guidelines which could have helped make things manageable. We're already seeing situations were collectives are falling apart and the money is drying up. The finger pointing should be going in all directions, not just athletes and their families. They're trying to get what they can while the iron is hot and I don't blame them.

I also cringe at the amount of money allegedly being asked for, but I also try to look at it from a long term perspective. What happens if Chavez isn't able to have a professional career for some reason? That money could help set her up long term if it's handled properly. This issue is not a black and white situation.
I don't think most fans are against any college athlete earning NIL money but to ask for a million dollar guaranty up front from the highest bidder without proving yourself seems a bit over the top........ In this social media-driven world, stars will get NIL money no matter where they play but you need to prove it on the big stage to become a top earner......,.
 
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I thought players "earned" most of their NIL money after they showed great talent on the court for a major program........if you're an exceptional player with flair the big NIL money will surely find you.........what if a player turns out to be less of a talent than first thought? .......does that one million dollars disappear? ...........we all know how this is going to end up.......5 - 10 programs with huge booster money will get 80% of the best talent while everybody else looks to sign the remaining recruits leading two a two or three-tier system, destroying the competitive balance WBB has achieved in recent years........very sad stuff indeed.......:(
Not anymore. State laws are making it possible for HS athletes to profit based on recent court cases like in North Carolina. Yes it's sad, but the NCAA could have done better if they really cared.
 

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Can't really blame the kids for looking for a payday, but as long as Geno is the HC, that will never fly at UConn. If schools are willing to pony up the $, more power to them. But kids like that will never end up in Storrs.
 

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Can't really blame the kids for looking for a payday, but as long as Geno is the HC, that will never fly at UConn. If schools are willing to pony up the $, more power to them. But kids like that will never end up in Storrs.

Head coach Geno Auriemma publicly pushed for the Connecticut legislature to pass a NIL bill so that UConn and other schools in the state wouldn’t be at a disadvantage on the recruiting trail.

Tell me what kid playing at this level doesn’t put in as much time as any professional athlete,” he said.



 

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Head coach Geno Auriemma publicly pushed for the Connecticut legislature to pass a NIL bill so that UConn and other schools in the state wouldn’t be at a disadvantage on the recruiting trail.

Tell me what kid playing at this level doesn’t put in as much time as any professional athlete,” he said.



Of course he wants to do the best he can for players, be competitive, etc. but just like when parents or players come to him and say "how much PT will I get", he also won't like a player's camp coming saying "we want $1M NIL or I won't commit".

That's how I read the info on Chavez - her CAMP wants $1M NIL for her. LSU backing out because they can't afford that? Not sure why LSU backed out. But Geno simply won't want a kid who leads with "how much $$ will you give me".

He talked about playing hoops in college as being a "part time job" so of course getting paid is no big deal. But again, he wants kids who don't lead with "Show me the $$"... or say their final choice of what college to go to will be based on who pony's up the most $$.
 
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I don't think most fans are against any college athlete earning NIL money but to ask for a million dollar guaranty up front from the highest bidder without proving yourself seems a bit over the top........ In this social media-driven world, stars will get NIL money no matter where they play but you need to prove it on the big stage to become a top earner......,.
Fair, but that's not their fault when there aren't guardrails in place to limit how much one could ask for. Similar to rookie contracts for NBA and NFL players when they were first drafted until their unions renegotiated and put caps in place. North America loves the "free market" concept until it becomes too expensive for those paying.
 

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It's kind of surprising how posters on a women's basketball board seem to take exception that a high school female athlete is reportedly asking to be (legally) compensated for her perceived worth. Male athletes in so many sports have been paid illegally against NCAA rules for decades; now they are getting their compensation legally via NIL; I'm sure UConn men's high school signees are getting their NIL compensation lined up prior to signing their LOI's.

When I read some articles about the sacrifices Aaliyah Chavez's Dad made for years helping his daughter with her basketball skills, it opened my eyes as to how much hard work and time is put in by not just the athlete, but by their inner circle. These 17-18 year old recruits are being guided by their parents/guardians most likely; if they believe they should ask for certain NIL compensation, it's not like they haven't put in some work to be in a position to ask for it.





 

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Of course he wants to do the best he can for players, be competitive, etc. but just like when parents or players come to him and say "how much PT will I get", he also won't like a player's camp coming saying "we want $1M NIL or I won't commit".

He talked about playing hoops in college as being a "part time job" so of course getting paid is no big deal. But again, he wants kids who don't lead with "Show me the $$"... or say their final choice of what college to go to will be based on who pony's up the most $$.

Geno has always been pretty direct and outspoken with the media. Has he actually said something to that effect? Or, are you assuming that's how he'd react?
 
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Geno has always been pretty direct and outspoken with the media. Has he actually said something to that effect? Or, are you assuming that's how he'd react?
I can't speak of others and I don't know the facts of this so in no way am I judging. But we're just talking here making generalizations. No way do I want to judge her. But in terms of UCONN there can be a logicial opinion based on taking the comment that she is going to the higehest bidder up to $1m. See below Geno on "Body-Langauge." Stating a defined monetary number doesn't seem to mesh with the below link as how one might have an opinion how Geno might would look this. Again there may bo so many factors in play which is great she is asking and great for others etc - okay. But if it is anything near "Pay me more or else I walk . . .," though, then at this point UCONN doesn't have to do it- and based on below listen at around 1:40 - he undestands he can refuse to do it. He probably would. Which lends merit to anyone that says Geno wouldn't buy this. And for the foreseeable future his teams are going to be elite. I get both ways- both have merit.

 
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It's kind of surprising how posters on a women's basketball board seem to take exception that a high school female athlete is reportedly asking to be (legally) compensated for her perceived worth. Male athletes in so many sports have been paid illegally against NCAA rules for decades; now they are getting their compensation legally via NIL; I'm sure UConn men's high school signees are getting their NIL compensation lined up prior to signing their LOI's.

When I read some articles about the sacrifices Aaliyah Chavez's Dad made for years helping his daughter with her basketball skills, it opened my eyes as to how much hard work and time is put in by not just the athlete, but by their inner circle. These 17-18 year old recruits are being guided by their parents/guardians most likely; if they believe they should ask for certain NIL compensation, it's not like they haven't put in some work to be in a position to ask for it.





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It's kind of surprising how posters on a women's basketball board seem to take exception that a high school female athlete is reportedly asking to be (legally) compensated for her perceived worth. Male athletes in so many sports have been paid illegally against NCAA rules for decades; now they are getting their compensation legally via NIL; I'm sure UConn men's high school signees are getting their NIL compensation lined up prior to signing their LOI's.

When I read some articles about the sacrifices Aaliyah Chavez's Dad made for years helping his daughter with her basketball skills, it opened my eyes as to how much hard work and time is put in by not just the athlete, but by their inner circle. These 17-18 year old recruits are being guided by their parents/guardians most likely; if they believe they should ask for certain NIL compensation, it's not like they haven't put in some work to be in a position to ask for it.





As the father of a female basketball player whose career was cut short by a series of injuries before she could reach her goals, I think I know a bit about those sacrifices.......Ms Chavez has the right to ask for anything that she wants but if it's true that she's simply looking for the highest bidder as her main requirement to sign as opposed to choosing a team based on her future teammates and the quality of the coaching staff, I think that's going to lead straight to the transfer portal.......the same goes for any player male or female....
 
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I love the fact that she is marketing herself & will be able weigh all of the potential NIL payday opportunities before signing.
She can bring enough publicity & credibility to a program to make it a relatively instant Final Four contender through the transfer portal & future recruitment.
Signing a player like that could do the work that a recruitment staff could never do without her.
Coaches like Geno get bonuses for winning every single NCAAT game when it's the players who do the majority of the work, get injured & suffer.
I have no problem with a player who wants to be a mercenary if they choose.
That's their right & their calling.
We're only fans who watch the games.
But I'd like to see more powerhouse teams spring up out of nowhere.
That makes life more interesting since players can have many different motivations regarding where to attend.
If Ms. Chavez wants to take care of her parents or has needs that we don't know about, then it's none of our business what her motivations are & I won't try to judge her negatively.
If the system allows it then more power to her.
If she loves the game & plays her heart out then that's all that matters to me,
Athletes simply want to get paid what they think is fair so let the market decide.
 

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I don't think most fans are against any college athlete earning NIL money but to ask for a million dollar guaranty up front from the highest bidder without proving yourself seems a bit over the top........ In this social media-driven world, stars will get NIL money no matter where they play but you need to prove it on the big stage to become a top earner......,.
NIL sadly has moved from marketing money for a popular athlete to simple pay for play from the booster collective. Of course this means there will be big upfront payments to top recruits.

They then have to live up to their billing to earn even more with real NIL deals.

At least this is now somewhat above board, instead of the old bag of cash and house for mama of the old days.
 

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As the father of a female basketball player whose career was cut short by a series of injuries before she could reach her goals, I think I know a bit about those sacrifices.......Ms Chavez has the right to ask for anything that she wants but if it's true that she's simply looking for the highest bidder as her main requirement to sign as opposed to choosing a team based on her future teammates and the quality of the coaching staff, I think that's going to lead straight to the transfer portal.......the same goes for any player male or female....

I know you stated "if", but where was that stated on social media?

From the one article that was posted by Talia Goodman, it's funny to see how things have evolved by some message board posters to:
  • she wants the NIL "up front"; not sure I read those words/conditions reported
  • she's looking for the highest bidder

If she really were doing that, she'd most likely be taking like 10 official visits trying to get every school to outbid the other. So far she's taken 2 official visits to UCLA and Texas; and, her UCLA visit was in conjunction with her competing at the Mamba competition in L.A.

Regarding unofficial visits the last couple of years, she made basically regional type visits to Texas Tech, Texas, maybe Oklahoma and A&M. Her last unofficial was to LSU in August, I believe. That's a very small number of unofficial visits compared to the number most Top 50 national recruits are making these days.
 
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The news are out that she is looking for 1M dollar and LSU is out the game to recruit her.

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I doubt there are any schools want to openly recruit her unless you admit you want to pay $1M dollar. Let see how Texas' response.
 

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The news are out that she is looking for 1M dollar and LSU is out the game to recruit her.

I doubt there are any schools want to openly recruit her unless you admit you want to pay $1M dollar. Let see how Texas' response.

That is completely incorrect. Maybe someone with an agenda is trying to muddy up her recruitment.

She took an official visit to Texas after those rumors were floated (by LSU?). Texas and Texas Tech are still recruiting her.
 
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I think you are forming your opinions based on a lot of rumors where no one went on the record. It's no coincidence this one media outlet who is reporting that these "sources" mentioned the $1 million NIL pricetag did it at the same time they were reporting that LSU was out of contention for Chavez.
Lots of rumors are out already, not just in The Boneyard.
If they are not true why we don't see Ms. Aaliyah Chavez comes out to deny it? Or her coach, or her family or her friends come out to deny it?
 

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Lots of rumors are out already, not just in The Boneyard.
If they are not true why we don't see Ms. Aaliyah Chavez comes out to deny it? Or her coach, or her family or her friends come out to deny it?

Why should they have to deny anything? The Chavez family doesn't owe anyone any type of denial.

The comments here in this forum were a result of the article written by Talia Goodman. And, it cited no direct quotes and referenced unnamed "sources".
 

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