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[mattp]

"Uconn vs connecticut I believe could have helped get us that acc invite. That's my position. "

What are you talking about? The decision to emphasize UConn as the lead brand was made in Spring 2013. Louisville was invited to the ACC in late 2012. The former has nothing to do with the latter as we were Connecticut (with a white dog logo) when the vote was taken.

You're never going to be on HFD's level if you continue to use things like facts, reason and logic in your debates. You obviously don't understand big time college sports

 

[UConnDan97]

HFD is 100% right about the new logo being a mess.

Take a look at our "logo" on the new AAC site: http://theamerican.org/

The husky is 1/2 the size of any other logo and the word UConn is completely illegible. It looks like a crappy pixelated Windows icon from the 1990s.

The amazing thing is that this is not the logo that Nike designed for us and intended for us to use! Read Nike's press release:

http://nikeinc.com/nike-football/news/uconn-updates-visual-identity-and-new-uniforms-for-huskies

Scroll down to the box labeled "The Husky Logo" and it is just the damned dog with gray outlining (which actually looks pretty good). I have no idea how our athletic department screwed this up, but it explains a lot. Nike literally hands us a new logo and we say "Thanks -- but we'll use this other image instead that you gave us to make T-shirts with!"

You are both absolutely right.

Regardless of my feelings about the logo change, the decision to include the word with the logo cheapens it and shrinks the logo. I'm sure that Junglehusky is right about the fact that they are trying to link the new logo to the university in order to show to the nation that this is UConn's logo (although I would argue that means that the logo is not appropriate). I think we would be much better served if they removed the word from the logo and increased the size of the dog to match the other logos.

HFD, this is a message for you, my friend: You have good ideas, whether some acknowledge it here or not. But you do yourself a disservice with the venom that you put into the posts and the frequency that you state the ideas. Believe me, I understand your passion! If anyone understands, it's me! But if you make your arguments with less venom and less often, I guarantee that the results will be different on the BY and elsewhere. And quite frankly, we need those results to be different because I think that you are spot-on in your criticism of a lot of the marketing efforts of the university over the last year or so...

 

[BugsyCT]

The logo looks bad on the header of the website because 1) the word "UCONN" under the dog's head (and it's a Siberian husky DOG, not a frickin' wolf) has blue lettering when it should be white lettering 2) The whole blue monochrome tint they have over all the logos looks bad to begin with. 3) the logo looks small with the word UCONN below it, but HobokenHusky is right when he says in time as the new logo becomes more recognized with UConn, they'll probably be less use of the logo & word UCONN together.

It's a new website just launched, and looks rather cheaply made at that, so I'm not gonna lose sleep over how our logo looks on it. Would assume in time they'll fix it up and improve the overall website. Plus the logo looks fine on the UConn page.

Can't believe the stuff people endlessly harp on and split hairs over on here. It's become comical.

 

[junglehusky]

BugsyCT - it's the dog days of summer, nothing positive to talk about so we obsess over the same old same old. And until it looks like the football team can get 9-10 wins and the offense can put up 30 points a game we're going to rehash the same BS over and over. And even when we do HFD is going to call everybody clowns for cheering for UConn instead of Connecticut.

 

[Marty Jackson]

It's funny that you say this when three of the teams just selected for a new conference are called Mizzou, Rutgers and Pitt. That may be your position, but it's wrong. Plenty of schools like UCLA, USC, and Ole Miss have plenty of prestige despite being known largely by a nickname. Personally I always like to say Connecticut, but I don't mind the change to UConn as it is the more recognizable name.

I do agree with you about the wolf head logo. I liked the friendly dog. I think it looked better and it was recognizable as UConn, so why reinvent the wheel? Now we have to hope fans can figure out why our wolf looking dog is different from the other wolf looking dog logos out there. I think in 20 years this logo will be remembered as the "new coke" of our logos in that we messed up something good just for the sake of change. It's a bunch of marketing idiots trying to justify their jobs that ends up with stuff like this. Surprisingly I actually do like the unis and helmets.

reminds me of the cheer they always do at the games:
C - O - N - N- E - C - T - I - C - U - T
Connecticut
Connecticut
Connecticut

If it's started early enough in the first half, they can usually get through it by halftime.

 

[Dann]

"Uconn vs connecticut I believe could have helped get us that acc invite. That's my position. "

What are you talking about? The decision to emphasize UConn as the lead brand was made in Spring 2013. Louisville was invited to the ACC in late 2012. The former has nothing to do with the latter as we were Connecticut (with a white dog logo) when the vote was taken.

It was a known thing coming. Last fall they changed the twitter and things like that to "uconn" only a diehard fan who is blind couldn't realize all those changes were not for a reason. Yet it went over a lot of heads here I'm sure.

 

[Dann]

It's funny that you say this when three of the teams just selected for a new conference are called Mizzou, Rutgers and Pitt. That may be your position, but it's wrong. Plenty of schools like UCLA, USC, and Ole Miss have plenty of prestige despite being known largely by a nickname. Personally I always like to say Connecticut, but I don't mind the change to UConn as it is the more recognizable name.

I do agree with you about the wolf head logo. I liked the friendly dog. I think it looked better and it was recognizable as UConn, so why reinvent the wheel? Now we have to hope fans can figure out why our wolf looking dog is different from the other wolf looking dog logos out there. I think in 20 years this logo will be remembered as the "new coke" of our logos in that we messed up something good just for the sake of change. It's a bunch of marketing idiots trying to justify their jobs that ends up with stuff like this. Surprisingly I actually do like the unis and helmets.

Mizzu went to the sec who has many big publics land grants. Mizzu uses its nickname like we used to use uconn. They actually call them selves the full state name tho. We don't now..... Rutgers to the b10 is the same thing. Pitt is not land grant and they used to be private and today are a half and half like temple. They moved to the acc before md left. There was not a land grant issue at that time.

I think a bunch of u kids are taking Internet talk and sports center talk as what the brand should be. Just because we say PSU or uconn or Mizzu or Ruty doesn't mean the schools call themselves that when it comes time to name names. Did Jim Delany call them Ruty or Rutgers at the press conference?

 

[Dann]

reminds me of the cheer they always do at the games:
C - O - N - N- E - C - T - I - C - U - T
Connecticut
Connecticut
Connecticut

If it's started early enough in the first half, they can usually get through it by halftime.

The uconn cheer was ruined by a bad ad who let cheerleaders kill it. It was best when big red controlled it. I always said the correct thing was for big red to hand over the reins of the chant to dale in some official unofficial ceremony in the stands one game and so its safe for another 30 years of fun.

Know why that cheer used to be fun? Because its our nick name. It's not fun when its our actual name that's plastered on everything. The nick name aspect of it made it fun. It's dead now.

 

[junglehusky]

Mizzu went to the sec who has many big publics land grants. Mizzu uses its nickname like we used to use uconn. They actually call them selves the full state name tho. We don't now..... Rutgers to the b10 is the same thing. Pitt is not land grant and they used to be private and today are a half and half like temple. They moved to the acc before md left. There was not a land grant issue at that time.

I think a bunch of u kids are taking Internet talk and sports center talk as what the brand should be. Just because we say PSU or uconn or Mizzu or Ruty doesn't mean the schools call themselves that when it comes time to name names. Did Jim Delany call them Ruty or Rutgers at the press conference?

Did Lou Perkins, or John Rowland, Harry Hartley, Dave Gavitt, Jim Calhoun, Geno Auriemma, Dan Malloy, Pres Obama (when he hosted the champs teams) call us UConn or Connecticut? Some of them may have used both, but I wager if you add up all those press conferences over the years UConn wins out.



Oh and... how exactly did Louisville get into the ACC when the ACC only wanted Land Grant schools's? They began as a private seminary, were a municipal school in the early 1900s and were't a state school until the 60s. Never a land grant college.

But please, go ahead and ignore the facts since they clash with your made-up narrative.

 

[kibblesnbits]

Did Lou Perkins, or John Rowland, Harry Hartley, Dave Gavitt, Jim Calhoun, Geno Auriemma, Dan Malloy, Pres Obama (when he hosted the champs teams) call us UConn or Connecticut? Some of them may have used both, but I wager if you add up all those press conferences over the years UConn wins out.



Oh and... how exactly did Louisville get into the ACC when the ACC only wanted Land Grant schools's? They began as a private seminary, were a municipal school in the early 1900s and were't a state school until the 60s. Never a land grant college.

But please, go ahead and ignore the facts since they clash with your made-up narrative.

For athletic purposes it has always been UConn as 95+% of the references from players, coaches, athletic administration, announcers, etc. have been to UConn. It's only the recognition that the school can benefit by leveraging the power of that brand (and that the students, alums, etc. had already recognized it by adopting it nearly universally) that changed. HFD would have us believe that an earlier change to Twitter (an inherently informal communication mechanism) tipped off the ACC's due diligence spies that they were going to have to suffer the indignity of being associated with UConn if they invited the far different University of Connecticut. Of course, if that was true they could have just said, "we prefer the more formal name" and I'm sure the admin would have been fine with it and accepted the offer.

It's just another thing for those that have intertwined misery and self-importance to drone on about.

 

[businesslawyer]

The uconn cheer was ruined by a bad ad who let cheerleaders kill it. It was best when big red controlled it. I always said the correct thing was for big red to hand over the reins of the chant to dale in some official unofficial ceremony in the stands one game and so its safe for another 30 years of fun.

Know why that cheer used to be fun? Because its our nick name. It's not fun when its our actual name that's plastered on everything. The nick name aspect of it made it fun. It's dead now.

You have become a caricature of the biggest lunatic in an insane asylum. Please get help.

 

[Dann]

You have become a caricature of the biggest lunatic in an insane asylum. Please get help.

I tried to get help. Instead everyone here sides with what uconn currently is. Enjoy it. U own it.

Sue me.

 

[ConnHuskBask]

You have become a caricature of the biggest lunatic in an insane asylum. Please get help.

HFD has been pretty off the wall lately and I'm not even sure if you were writing this specifically about the U C O N N chant, but Dan is right, the cheer leaders have absolutely butchered that change and done everything in their power to ruin my favorite UConn tradition.

As awesome as that chant can sound at Gampel, imagine it times 4 at the rent?

 

[ConnHuskBask]

Wait, am I missing something? They do the U-C-O-N-N chant after every touchdown (and field goal?) at the Rent. I always enjoy it, just wished we scored more

You must be missing the fact that when the cheer leaders do it, it sucks.

A) They mess up the cadence of the U-C-O-N-N. Every single time.
B) They do it twice, which is over kill.
C) Worse off they do it only in front of the student section, so you get two half assed chants that sounds awful.

Solution: Get a 10 second video of Big Red on the jumbo tron after each field goal or TD and get the whole stadium to do it.

Look this seems like a small issue but to me it's not. It's things like this, that just drive me crazy when it comes to fan experience. This could literally be done in 2 hours and upgrade the fan experience by combining a hoop tradition with football, but nobody gets it in UConn AD.

 

[Dann]

Wait, am I missing something? They do the U-C-O-N-N chant after every touchdown (and field goal?) at the Rent. I always enjoy it, just wished we scored more

Yea your missing something. The u c o n n chant was a battle cry in games where we made big runs and the other team called time out. Then the chant would rock the arena and tv cameras would always catch part of it to show the atmosphere.

Then they took it and now its c k e d.

Not only is it to blah and no energy. But it has no special/important meaning any more.

The way they should have translated it to football was big red giving it to dale in some special thing for fun event. It should be used in football games only in 2nd halfs and when the opposing team has to call a timeout and we have them on the ropes.

That was the equavalant to the bball meaning of it. Imagine 40k all looking for dale to do the chant with uconn up. 3, 1 minute left with Rutgers on the 45 facing 3rd and 5 and they call. Timeout. That's where the chant should be. Not where it is today.

This is such a basic thing. It's Rich in tradition. And yet the school could not have c k e d it up any more.

SO IM C K I N G MAD ABOUT IT.

 

[ConnHuskBask]

Amen HFD. I haven't been totally on board with you lately, but that post is right on the money.

 

[Dann]

You must be missing the fact that when the cheer leaders do it, it sucks.

A) They mess up the cadence of the U-C-O-N-N. Every single time.
B) They do it twice, which is over kill.
C) Worse off they do it only in front of the student section, so you get two half assed chants that sounds awful.

Solution: Get a 10 second video of Big Red on the jumbo tron after each field goal or TD and get the whole stadium to do it.

Look this seems like a small issue but to me it's not. It's things like this, that just drive me crazy when it comes to fan experience. This could literally be done in 2 hours and upgrade the fan experience by combining a hoop tradition with football, but nobody gets it in UConn AD.

Amen. Yet ppl here will get on me like I'm some dog with Internet. The sooner ppl here open eyes and see what a mess things are the better.

News flash. Uconn can hire me as ad for 1/4th the cost. I will sell the exact same amount of tickets that warde does. I'll wear school colors and ill fix a bunch of little things I'm capable of.

Which is better? Warde or hfd?

Neither did tickets better or got us into a power 5. But one of them improved game day atmospheres and acted like he cares a bit.

 

[Dann]

Gotcha, I never really noticed the cadence being off but their should definitely be some kind of video played for the whole crowd to do it. I also don't mind it twice but I would prefer if they do it right after the TD and then right before kick-off.

HFD, I remember during basketball games two years ago they stupidly forced a U-C-O-N-N during a TV timeout, but I guess they quickly realized how bad it was b/c I was at every bball game this past year and they didn't do it, everything was done naturally and lead by Big Red or students. I certainly don't share your outlook on many things, but we absolutely need to do a better job of transferring it over to football, it's the best chant we have.

It needs to be pure fan. Like j e t s jets.....

Big red at bball games till he dies
Dale at football games then bball also

The cheerleaders should have nothing to do but join in with the crowd. I don't even want it on video boards. I want those to be live camera shots of the crowd doing it so it gets ppl more pumped and likely to join in. I can go on if a hour with this. It's like #357 on my list to do. That many things suck more than how much this sucks right now.

Nebraska jumps around. USCe sandstorms. We chant our NICK NAME. That's way more powerful then a old song. We can do student section sing alongside any time. I enjoy them. But in the heat of battle a nick name chant is gold. Yet uconn is desperately trying to
1) kill the chant by ruining it
2) devalue the hasn't by branding the school the nick name
And 3) not understand the core principles of it because warde and Susan don't care. They are not connecticut people. They are on a life pitt stop boosting resumes to become a b10 ad and a ivy president. They RE the problem.

 

[zls44]

Suggestion to Fishy & Mods: Add the AAC website to the Media Links drop down menu above please.

FWIW I wrote an updated menu script two summers ago. It didnt work. Someone should try it, though. Reach out to temery

 

[J187Money]

Yup the logo looks bad. It's the same everywhere. Look at a ESPN recruiting list vs other schools logos. Same story. You can't have uconn and the wolf both together.

Why do they? They know its so far fetched from the dog they had that no one recognizes it besides fans of uconn. So they have to let ppl know what it is by writing uconn. The red outline on some sites they use also sucks. It just screams look at me our colors are good enough so we outline in red.

Everything about it sucks in so many ways. It's just going to take the children here more time to realize what a disaster it is. When you rebrand and you need to write your name on something so ppl know its you, you suck.

Good logos have 1 aggressive part about them. The beck of the Lville cardinal, the teeth of the Florida gator and so on. The most aggressive or stand out part of our logo is the wolfs ears because they are big proportionally to the rest of the wolf face. The teeth are not that noticeable. It's a god dam joke. It really is. Keep supporting it all u clowns.

That's actually the way rebranding works. If the logo changes are substantial you tie them together until the new one stands on its own. That had nothing to do with whether you like or don't like the new logo.

 

[J187Money]

Actually, they are laughing at those UConn "fans" that have let the current situation become so all-encompassing that they are miserable over everything and insist on sharing their misery at every conceivable opportunity. Every time I look at the UK logo I look at it as another reason to whine uncontrollably too

As for the UConn issue - it's ridiculous. Marketing is about recognition and brand equity. Even without official sanction the students, alums and 90% of broadcast references use it. One can throw that away or build on it. Here's a clue, throwing it away would be a losing battle because UConn is so engrained that they'd keep using it anyway.

BTW: Ask visiting fans and they'll tell you that when the crowd is into the game, the "U-C-O-N-N, UConn, UConn, UConn" chant is very impressive.

When we beat ND we drowned out the ND band with our chant. Thats all you could hear on TV. My former boss who hates UCONN said he was sick to his stomach listening to that.

But I guess it's small time.

Dan - what you don't get about us middle aged guys is that we were there when Big Red started the chant. It became our thing. Organically. It made us UCONN. That is our brand like it or not.

 

[Dann]

UConnHuskies.com agnowledges new conference, but not the existence of UCF.

I hate stuff like this because it makes HFD look not-100% crazy. How do you remember Tulane and forget a team that's ALREADY IN THE CONFERENCE?!?!?!?!

Exactly. Stuff keeps and keeps happening small stuff like this and bigger things yet a good size of the crowd here thinks its me. I mean navy? Not yet. And so on. This was a butcher all around. Nothing new for uconn...

That's actually the way rebranding works. If the logo changes are substantial you tie them together until the new one stands on its own. That had nothing to do with whether you like or don't like the new logo.

Well they did a great job then. It's so small you can't see the wolf to tell its features besides its straight up pointy era and is hard to read uconn at the bottom. My dad the first time I showed him a ESPN recruiting list to see the logo vs others had to put on his glasses and then he just laughed. Bravo uconn. That's big boy material right here. Hey, did u know uconn is very proud that there logo was free? It's something to be proud of these days. They told us so over and over t the press conf. Free. It's like winning. Free win freeing winning.

 

[J187Money]

HFD has been pretty off the wall lately and I'm not even sure if you were writing this specifically about the U C O N N chant, but Dan is right, the cheer leaders have absolutely butchered that change and done everything in their power to ruin my favorite UConn tradition.

As awesome as that chant can sound at Gampel, imagine it times 4 at the rent?

That's true. They have botched it at the football games for sure. When it happens naturally it is magic.

 

[J187Money]

Exactly. Stuff keeps and keeps happening small stuff like this and bigger things yet a good size of the crowd here thinks its me. I mean navy? Not yet. And so on. This was a butcher all around. Nothing new for uconn...



Well they did a great job then. It's so small you can't see the wolf to tell its features besides its straight up pointy era and is hard to read uconn at the bottom. My dad the first time I showed him a ESPN recruiting list to see the logo vs others had to put on his glasses and then he just laughed. Bravo uconn. That's big boy material right here. Hey, did u know uconn is very proud that there logo was free? It's something to be proud of these days. They told us so over and over t the press conf. Free. It's like winning. Free win freeing winning.

I didn't even look at it. I'm not saying they did it right. I'm explaining how it works. And btw 90 pct of the country didn't know we played FCS football anyway so this whole nonsense about our tradition is a bit silly. Nationally with regards to football? We have none.

 

[Dann]

I didn't even look at it. I'm not saying they did it right. I'm explaining how it works. And btw 90 pct of the country didn't know we played FCS football anyway so this whole nonsense about our tradition is a bit silly. Nationally with regards to football? We have none.

We had 10 years of block c which no other school was using and 10 years of mixed uconn vs connecticut use. We were n our way to establishing the state name and letter c in the cf world. We just killed those first 10 years. Those years were special because we went from nothing to something extremely quick against all odds and opinions. We were a great story. Murdered that story overnight.

When it comes o a official schedule for this fall please name one other state named land grant school that uses its nickname? Honest question.

 

[UConn Dan]

Our bio on the American website screams "B1G, please let us in!"

Quick Facts

The University of Connecticut is among the top 25 leading public research universities in the nation. UConn's main campus in Storrs is admitting the highest-achieving freshmen in University history.

• Nickname: UConn, Huskies
• Enrollment: 30,256
• Location: Storrs, CT
• Founded: 1881
• Colors: Blue, Red, and White
• President: Susan Herbst
• Athletic Director: Warde Manuel

 

[temery]

I haven't been to a bb game in years. Does big red still do his thing?

When we beat ND we drowned out the ND band with our chant. Thats all you could hear on TV. My former boss who hates UCONN said he was sick to his stomach listening to that.

But I guess it's small time.

Dan - what you don't get about us middle aged guys is that we were there when Big Red started the chant. It became our thing. Organically. It made us UCONN. That is our brand like it or not.

 

[Dann]

Our bio on the American website screams "B1G, please let us in!"

Quick Facts

The University of Connecticut is among the top 25 leading public research universities in the nation. UConn's main campus in Storrs is admitting the highest-achieving freshmen in University history.

• 
  [ ]Nickname: UConn, Huskies
  [ ]Enrollment: 30,256
  [ ]Location: Storrs, CT
  [ ]Founded: 1881
  [ ]Colors: Blue, Red, and White
  [ ]President: Susan Herbst
  [ ]Athletic Director: Warde Manuel

Nick name - uconn

1)That's gold considering all the clowns here.

2) were not close to the b10 and that profile screams acc. Do u know hoe big b10 schools are? He'll Rutgers is twice the size of uconn. Two times.

3) the picture of the school screams community college.

4) the last sentence screams flash in the pan. They hold say something about usr or what ever but it sounds cheesy.

 

[J187Money]

We had 10 years of block c which no other school was using and 10 years of mixed uconn vs connecticut use. We were n our way to establishing the state name and letter c in the cf world. We just killed those first 10 years. Those years were special because we went from nothing to something extremely quick against all odds and opinions. We were a great story. Murdered that story overnight.

When it comes o a official schedule for this fall please name one other state named land grant school that uses its nickname? Honest question.

Where is it written in stone that a land grant school must use its entire state name or otherwise it is small time? Honest question.

I liked the block C. I'd have kept it.

But the facts are this. Tell anyone you went to "Connecticut" and they will make a face. Then you have to say "The University of Connecticut. In Storrs. You know. UConn?" Then they nod and go "ahh". I've had that same conversation at least 100 times.

You have an opinion. A valid one. But it isn't a fact. And it isn't binary. Do what HFD wants or the school is doomed.

I'd change the colors to pink and green if Nick Saban would coach here.

 

[J187Money]

I haven't been to a bb game in years. Does big red still do his thing?

Yep. Good stuff.