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freescooter said:
The white Husky has been part of UConn's identity. Throwing it away as Warde has done is like some new CEO deciding that Nike ought to go with 4 stripes rather than its traditional swoosh. Won't be able to distinguish it from Adidas, but so what? Its new. So it must be better...And J187Money, I've laid out many times why I think Warde is a terrible AD. I'd prefer an AD who is competent and also understands that there is value in maintaining tradition. In Warde's view, anything pre-Warde is irrelevant.
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ForWarde!
 
hthusky74 said:
That alone is the number one reason those morons shouldn't have made a change. Leave the damn Husky alone and get us in a power conference. That is what they really are getting paid for!
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Yes. The morons should not have made the change because the legally insane would create an uprising.
 
I always thought the all white dog was more of a Samoyed than a Husky, in fact my oldest son, when he was a kid, was surprised at a young age, when we went into one of the dog stores in the mall once, when my wife was clothes shopping, and he saw an all white dog with blue eyes, and it didn't say Husky on the tag - and said Samoyed. I remember him asking me why it didn't say Husky. Funny - how the hell does that remain circuited in my brain? Isn't there something more useful that could have been stored in that area of my brain..than that memory? I guess it was stored for this moment right now....whatever.

The dog is a Husky, without a doubt, and it's damn cute and it's our mascot. I like it.

But WTF do I know.
 
For anyone that is wondering here are the different coloring possibilities for Siberian Huskies : http://www.huskycolors.com/rescue.html

I am not trying to argue either way on this issue, but I have seen too many people claim that huskies can't be all-white or that only Samoyeds are. That is just not true. The other thing I've seen people say is that the new dog looks more like a husky, when in reality there are many different color/pattern variations.

The AKC Breed Standard allows any color for the Siberian Husky. No coat/eye pattern or color is to be seen as a fault OR as the desired appearance.

The new dog is no less a Siberian Husky than the old all-white dog and vice versa. Both are Siberian Huskies.
 
I just ran into a guy that told me that PP and GDL got a bum rap and that Diaco is an arrogant . He is an ex college football player and OL coach.

So everyone has an opinion.
 
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Penfield said:
For anyone that is wondering here are the different coloring possibilities for Siberian Huskies : http://www.huskycolors.com/colors.html

I am not trying to argue either way on this issue, but I have seen too many people claim that huskies can't be all-white or that only Samoyeds are. That is just not true.
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I didn't write that Husky's can't be all white, and I don't think I've seen anyone else write it either, but I may have missed it. An all white Husky, especially if for some reason in breeding it's got longer hair and a shorter snout, is going to look exactly like a Samoyed. That's just reality.

There is no mistaking out little puppy XIV as a solid, husky.

This entire nonsensical thread, is just another example that people will find anything to argue about. Tradition regarding the mascot? How about the fact that we actually have a dog that is now 14th generation. I think that's pretty cool.

Jonathan XIII wasn't good with crowds, I do remember only seeing him, when the stadium was empty pregames, yes - I actually wander into the stadium on occasion BEFORE kickoff.......we need a doggie that is good with crowds, and I think it's a good thing, that they're conditioning him already to be in front of cameras and stuff like that, and I think it's even better, that when you look at him, he's a husky, without a doubt.
 
Carl Spackler said:
I didn't write that Husky's can't be all white, and I don't think I've seen anyone else write it either, but I may have missed it. An all white Husky, especially if for some reason in breeding it's got longer hair and a shorter snout, is going to look exactly like a Samoyed. That's just reality.

There is no mistaking out little puppy XIV as a solid, husky.

This entire nonsensical thread, is just another example that people will find anything to argue about. Tradition regarding the mascot? How about the fact that we actually have a dog that is now 14th generation. I think that's pretty cool.

Jonathan XIII wasn't good with crowds, I do remember only seeing him, when the stadium was empty pregames, yes - I actually wander into the stadium on occasion BEFORE kickoff..we need a doggie that is good with crowds, and I think it's a good thing, that they're conditioning him already to be in front of cameras and stuff like that, and I think it's even better, that when you look at him, he's a husky, without a doubt.
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I wasnt responding to your post specifically. I have just seen a lot of people saying stuff like this on the boneyard and twitter. Also Jonathan XIII was fine w/ crowds. Saw him at FB and BB games all the time. They were saying that after a couple years the dogs get tired of this and deserve some years in "retirement".

The previous husky - Jonathan XII was terrible in front of crowds. They couldn't bring that one to any sporting events and thats one of the reason he was retired after only a couple more years and they went for a more outgoing dog.
 
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The red has been with us for at least 15 years. UCONN 1999 National Champs.
 
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So I go into the Westside Palm for lunch (lots of SB traffic). Sit at the bar - talking to my guy there...this guy comes up next to me. Here is the conversation pretty much verbatim:

Guy: Huskies? (I'm wearing my wordmark UCONN pullover with "Huskies" on the back)
J: Yes - UCONN
Guy: What do you do?
J: Blah blah blah (I think he was fishing to see whether I was in the football business)
Guy: I think Paul got a bum rap up there.
J: He didn't produce. UCONN needs to win. End of story.
Guy: Still - I know him - he needed more time.
J: IMO - I think his biggest issue was trying to run his stuff with the wrong kids. For example, zone blocking (talked about this for a minute or two).
Guy: Well - I'm pretty close to GDL - he is a hell of a coach. Edsall left the team in a mess - what were you expecting? And btw - I have been an OL coach in college. Anyone can learning to zone block - maybe you didn't have the horses).
Guy: BTW - Diaco is an arrogant pri*k. Don't know how that will work out.
J: Clearly the book is open on him, but like the energy, etc.
Guy: Says something about Michigan State (think he is an alum). Then has to run.

My main takeaway (and I've said this many times based on my conversations with people across the country):

- Most people that don't actually know anything about UCONN football don't respect it, so they just assume if a coach that they respect fails, it is the school/talent/etc that is the problem and not the guy.
- Which is also why you were never going to get FSU/Clemson/etc to get us to believe UCONN is credible in football regardless of what kind of marketing campaign an AD may or may not have done.
 
J187Money said:
- Which is also why you were never going to get FSU/Clemson/etc to get us to believe UCONN is credible in football regardless of what kind of marketing campaign an AD may or may not have done.
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Thanks interesting post. I disagree regarding the quote above though. The narrative on UConn pre-Pasqualoni was of an impressive rising program. No one was looking for us to win a NC (obviously) but I think the take was that UConn had come a long way since joining BCS football. Pasqualoni squashed that narrative, so Diaco starts back at square one, maybe at square negative one.
 
J187Money said:
So I go into the Westside Palm for lunch (lots of SB traffic). Sit at the bar - talking to my guy there...this guy comes up next to me. Here is the conversation pretty much verbatim:

Guy: Huskies? (I'm wearing my wordmark UCONN pullover with "Huskies" on the back)
J: Yes - UCONN
Guy: What do you do?
J: Blah blah blah (I think he was fishing to see whether I was in the football business)
Guy: I think Paul got a bum rap up there.
J: He didn't produce. UCONN needs to win. End of story.
Guy: Still - I know him - he needed more time.
J: IMO - I think his biggest issue was trying to run his stuff with the wrong kids. For example, zone blocking (talked about this for a minute or two).
Guy: Well - I'm pretty close to GDL - he is a hell of a coach. Edsall left the team in a mess - what were you expecting? And btw - I have been an OL coach in college. Anyone can learning to zone block - maybe you didn't have the horses).
Guy: BTW - Diaco is an arrogant pri*k. Don't know how that will work out.
J: Clearly the book is open on him, but like the energy, etc.
Guy: Says something about Michigan State (think he is an alum). Then has to run.

My main takeaway (and I've said this many times based on my conversations with people across the country):

- Most people that don't actually know anything about UCONN football don't respect it, so they just assume if a coach that they respect fails, it is the school/talent/etc that is the problem and not the guy.
- Which is also why you were never going to get FSU/Clemson/etc to get us to believe UCONN is credible in football regardless of what kind of marketing campaign an AD may or may not have done.
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The guy just had a beef. He sought you out because he wanted to air it.
 
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J187Money said:
So I go into the Westside Palm for lunch (lots of SB traffic). Sit at the bar - talking to my guy there...this guy comes up next to me. Here is the conversation pretty much verbatim:

Guy: Huskies? (I'm wearing my wordmark UCONN pullover with "Huskies" on the back)
J: Yes - UCONN
Guy: What do you do?
J: Blah blah blah (I think he was fishing to see whether I was in the football business)
Guy: I think Paul got a bum rap up there.
J: He didn't produce. UCONN needs to win. End of story.
Guy: Still - I know him - he needed more time.
J: IMO - I think his biggest issue was trying to run his stuff with the wrong kids. For example, zone blocking (talked about this for a minute or two).
Guy: Well - I'm pretty close to GDL - he is a hell of a coach. Edsall left the team in a mess - what were you expecting? And btw - I have been an OL coach in college. Anyone can learning to zone block - maybe you didn't have the horses).
Guy: BTW - Diaco is an arrogant pri*k. Don't know how that will work out.
J: Clearly the book is open on him, but like the energy, etc.
Guy: Says something about Michigan State (think he is an alum). Then has to run.

My main takeaway (and I've said this many times based on my conversations with people across the country):

- Most people that don't actually know anything about UCONN football don't respect it, so they just assume if a coach that they respect fails, it is the school/talent/etc that is the problem and not the guy.
- Which is also why you were never going to get FSU/Clemson/etc to get us to believe UCONN is credible in football regardless of what kind of marketing campaign an AD may or may not have done.
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Dude - we're arguing over whether or not the new puppy should look like a husky or not. LOL.

Until UCONN wins, and wins regularly, and wins vs. big name programs, and wins big name bowl games, and gets some people out in front of the cameras regularly talking about how good the program is.....which ideally is the head coach.......... the respect nationally won't be there from the kinds of guys you just described. This isn't earth shattering news. The funny thing about people that really get after how Edsall built this program, and this and that, how much better we were then.........is that the guy, basically destroyed any national perception of the program positively that he had built, over 12 years, in less than 24 hours a little over 3 years ago. Rome wasn't built in a day, but you can blow it all to bits really quick.

It's not how he left the guys on the tarmac and broke the news over the phone, or lying to the AD, or standing up Jordan Todman, or anything like that I will never forgive him for - it's for getting UCONN to the biggest stage of college football there can be. New Year's Day bowl game, primetime television, national TV vs. a program like Oklahoma - and then leaving in the middle of the night for a "dream job". No college football fan/or coach of nationally relevant programs is going to look at UCONN like a major program after what Randy did. Maryland? A dream job? After going to the Fiesta Bowl with UCONN?

THe AD, the athletic department in general, marketing promotions, etc. at the time - clueless - but that is all secondary, because the head coach is the guy in front of the cameras doing the interviews.

Saint Randy, on the biggest stage that the program had ever been, cast everything he had built, in the public court of perception nationally, back down among the heathens. On purpose or not, got to ask him. Whatever. duck him. Pisses me off.

We got to win again, and do better with publicity/media in the future. That's all.
 
J187Money said:
So I go into the Westside Palm for lunch (lots of SB traffic). Sit at the bar - talking to my guy there...this guy comes up next to me. Here is the conversation pretty much verbatim:

Guy: Huskies? (I'm wearing my wordmark UCONN pullover with "Huskies" on the back)
J: Yes - UCONN
Guy: What do you do?
J: Blah blah blah (I think he was fishing to see whether I was in the football business)
Guy: I think Paul got a bum rap up there.
J: He didn't produce. UCONN needs to win. End of story.
Guy: Still - I know him - he needed more time.
J: IMO - I think his biggest issue was trying to run his stuff with the wrong kids. For example, zone blocking (talked about this for a minute or two).
Guy: Well - I'm pretty close to GDL - he is a hell of a coach. Edsall left the team in a mess - what were you expecting? And btw - I have been an OL coach in college. Anyone can learning to zone block - maybe you didn't have the horses).
Guy: BTW - Diaco is an arrogant pri*k. Don't know how that will work out.
J: Clearly the book is open on him, but like the energy, etc.
Guy: Says something about Michigan State (think he is an alum). Then has to run.

My main takeaway (and I've said this many times based on my conversations with people across the country):

- Most people that don't actually know anything about UCONN football don't respect it, so they just assume if a coach that they respect fails, it is the school/talent/etc that is the problem and not the guy.
- Which is also why you were never going to get FSU/Clemson/etc to get us to believe UCONN is credible in football regardless of what kind of marketing campaign an AD may or may not have done.
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You're a better man than I am. How old was this guy?

You're not wrong about people's perception of UConn, but I think the guy's reaction was more along the lines of the Lou Marinelli's of the world. The coaching fraternity is a tight knit group. The good ole boys club to which Diaco does not yet belong.
 
zls44 said:
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RETURNING to our ROOTS..... We all need to welcome the new PUP....
BACK TO THE FUTURE: WELCOME JONNY !!!!!!!!!!!!
hope to see you at the Rent and Gampel
 
CL82 said:
Thanks interesting post. I disagree regarding the quote above though. The narrative on UConn pre-Pasqualoni was of an impressive rising program. No one was looking for us to win a NC (obviously) but I think the take was that UConn had come a long way since joining BCS football. Pasqualoni squashed that narrative, so Diaco starts back at square one, maybe at square negative one.
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Who's narrative? I'm not trying to be difficult, but unless we played a team and beat them (ND, SC, etc) I've never heard anything about UCONN football that was more than "good for you" and the equivalent of a pat on the head. Much like Boise got and still gets.
 
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Jimmy Serrano said:
You're a better man than I am. How old was this guy?

You're not wrong about people's perception of UConn, but I think the guy's reaction was more along the lines of the Lou Marinelli's of the world. The coaching fraternity is a tight knit group. The good ole boys club to which Diaco does not yet belong.
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I have yet to meet Diaco, but so far this guy.......Jimmy I think you hit the nail on the head........Diaco is the kind of guy, that in my mind, probably scares the hell out the majority of old time football coaches, because they know they can lose their jobs to young guys like him very easily....although none would ever admit it! Chances are that in 25 years, Diaco, will be the kind of coach calling a 40 year old hair on fire go-getter......an arrogant .
 
Jimmy Serrano said:
You're a better man than I am. How old was this guy?

You're not wrong about people's perception of UConn, but I think the guy's reaction was more along the lines of the Lou Marinelli's of the world. The coaching fraternity is a tight knit group. The good ole boys club to which Diaco does not yet belong.
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Early to mid 50s it looked like. I'm not small and he was a good 20% bigger than me.
 
J187Money said:
So I go into the Westside Palm for lunch (lots of SB traffic). Sit at the bar - talking to my guy there...this guy comes up next to me. Here is the conversation pretty much verbatim:

Guy: Huskies? (I'm wearing my wordmark UCONN pullover with "Huskies" on the back)
J: Yes - UCONN
Guy: What do you do?
J: Blah blah blah (I think he was fishing to see whether I was in the football business)
Guy: I think Paul got a bum rap up there.
J: He didn't produce. UCONN needs to win. End of story.
Guy: Still - I know him - he needed more time.
J: IMO - I think his biggest issue was trying to run his stuff with the wrong kids. For example, zone blocking (talked about this for a minute or two).
Guy: Well - I'm pretty close to GDL - he is a hell of a coach. Edsall left the team in a mess - what were you expecting? And btw - I have been an OL coach in college. Anyone can learning to zone block - maybe you didn't have the horses).
Guy: BTW - Diaco is an arrogant pri*k. Don't know how that will work out.
J: Clearly the book is open on him, but like the energy, etc.
Guy: Says something about Michigan State (think he is an alum). Then has to run.

My main takeaway (and I've said this many times based on my conversations with people across the country):

- Most people that don't actually know anything about UCONN football don't respect it, so they just assume if a coach that they respect fails, it is the school/talent/etc that is the problem and not the guy.
- Which is also why you were never going to get FSU/Clemson/etc to get us to believe UCONN is credible in football regardless of what kind of marketing campaign an AD may or may not have done.
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Did you mention to him we have a new puppy?
 
DW4UCONN said:
Did you mention to him we have a new puppy?
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LOLOL. That's the best laugh I've gotten out of the boneyard in a while. Picturing two guys in an NYC bar - it was NYC right? talking UCONN football, as noted, and JMoney - responds....

"Yeah, well...look at this pic of our new puppy!"

LOL.
 
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