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What does this have to do with my post? I was responding to JustinesGuy post on KLS being the first and second option for next season.

sorry........not trying to be disparaging.......just making reference to the AA in your comment..........in general I think we all have a fascination with UConn players becoming All Americans even when that doesn't guarantee the team's success
 

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sorry...not trying to be disparaging..just making reference to the AA in your comment.....in general I think we all have a fascination with UConn players becoming All Americans even when that doesn't guarantee the team's success
While AA’s do not guarantee a championship, I would disagree that they don’t guarantee success. In fact they sure do help a bunch. There isn’t a single 1st, 2nd or 3rd team AA from a losing team.

All played in the Big Dance and no less than 7/8 of 15 AP/USA Today AA’s played in the FF: Ogunbowle, McCowan, Vivians, Durr, Hines-Allen, Lou, Gabby & Pheesa. Add in Wilson, K. Brown, L. Brown, Mitchell, Canada, Ionescu, Gustafson, McPhee & McCarty and every single team with an AA won 20+ games.

While ND had only one, this year’s ND team may well field a starting 5 who will all be worthy of consideration as AA’s. That brings me to a question. Can anyone name a women’s national championship team that did not have at least one AA?
 

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BigBird, if you see something you think violates board rules, please report the post. Every post contains a link to do so. We may or may not agree, but you can be sure the issue won't be missed.

Criticism of a player, including inaccurate criticism, obviously does not automatically equate to a violation. It's up to other board members to refute or agree with opinions.

For there to be a violation (described in the board rules as "trashing" the player) there has to be something more, such as:

  • A disrespectful tone. Mocking the player, making snide comments about her ability or effort or supposed mindset.
  • Any comments at all, direct or implied, about a possible transfer that should or might occur. That's also its own category of violation.
  • Piling on the criticism. This refers to harping on a particular player. Enough can be enough, even when the criticism is otherwise acceptable.
Related topics to which you may be referring, but aren't dealt with as rules violations, include:

  • General critics. People who just have to exude negativity and can't seem to say anything positive. These are pretty unpopular people here and probably elsewhere, but they seem to delight in their chosen (or compulsive) role. Peer pressure and/or a private talk can sometimes have at least a temporary effect. Note the qualifiers.
  • Game thread ogres. People who don't react well to the stress of game situations, particularly adverse events, and have to lash out stridently or repeatedly at particular players. Their numbers may be small but the irritation and embarrassment they generate are enough to spur ameliorating board changes.


Certainly not a violation, but an every day phenomenon that irks me to tears.

Is the discussion ender: "how many championships have you won? ...in response to any criticism or disagreement, large or small with the actions of the staff and most especially Geno.

Geno (and all other senior coaches) are struggling with the culture change inherent in the rise in popularity of woman's BB (that he had a whole lot to so with). See Rocky's post today.

It's even possible that in sticking to his approach and carefully calibrated standards, that he may lose out on some possible recruits that in other times would be automatic.
And that the game might even pass him by...(unlikely but possible).

I must say, that I still think he erred in not hiring a specialist coach for the bigs, despite his reasonable explanation that every big wants to play like a guard or wing...I'm not fond of the concept of our aging staff taking on added responsibilities.

Hoping for a great season and quite optimistic.

This group is going to scare a whole lot of people.
 
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While AA’s do not guarantee a championship, I would disagree that they don’t guarantee success. In fact they sure do help a bunch. There isn’t a single 1st, 2nd or 3rd team AA from a losing team.

While ND had only one, this year’s ND team may well field a starting 5 who will all be worthy of consideration as AA’s. That brings me to a question. Can anyone name a women’s national championship team that did not have at least one AA?

you're absolutely right.............I should have said having multiple AAs it doesn't guarantee a championship and for all of us that's the ultimate goal
 

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Certainly not a violation, but an every day phenomenon that irks me to tears.

Is the discussion ender: "how many championships have you won? ...in response to any criticism or disagreement, large or small with the actions of the staff and most especially Geno.

Geno (and all other senior coaches) are struggling with the culture change inherent in the rise in popularity of woman's BB (that he had a whole lot to so with). See Rocky's post today.

It's even possible that in sticking to his approach and carefully calibrated standards, that he may lose out on some possible recruits that in other times would be automatic.
And that the game might even pass him by...(unlikely but possible).

I must say, that I still think he erred in not hiring a specialist coach for the bigs, despite his reasonable explanation that every big wants to play like a guard or wing...I'm not fond of the concept of our aging staff taking on added responsibilities.

Hoping for a great season and quite optimistic.

This group is going to scare a whole lot of people.
Can't take this post seriously because, as far as I know, you have never coached a team to a national championship.





(Sorry....:oops:)
 

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I'll start by saying we were all spoiled rotten by Stewie and company winning four national championships in a row. The sky has now fallen that we lost two years in a row in the national semis by a buzer beater. We saw last year on this board the hysteria with who was getting playing time, the frosh are not being developed and more. Now we have the question of hiring Jas to replace Marrisa. People wonder if Geno has lost his touch.

To the present - there are no guarantees to win another national championship. Do we have an excellent team? Yes. Will we have at least one AA? Most likely. But there are a few teams catching up to us. ND has always been nipping at our heels. Last year they finally got through. Louisville is playing its best ball since Walz took over. Mississippi State came quietly out of nowhere and caught WCBB by surprise. Baylor is still in the running. They are all going to be ready to run the table.

We are not the favorite for the first time in a few years. This is good. A little bit of the pressure is off. Will it make a difference? No one knows. We have had down years before and we've come back with a fury. We will come back again. It could be this year. But I don't know and neither does anybody else.

So I'm going to sit back, relax and enjoy the anticipation of the season coming and the season itself.
 

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Certainly not a violation, but an every day phenomenon that irks me to tears.
Is the discussion ender: "how many championships have you won? ...in response to any criticism or disagreement, large or small with the actions of the staff and most especially Geno.
Geno (and all other senior coaches) are struggling with the culture change inherent in the rise in popularity of woman's BB (that he had a whole lot to so with). See Rocky's post today.
It's even possible that in sticking to his approach and carefully calibrated standards, that he may lose out on some possible recruits that in other times would be automatic.
And that the game might even pass him by...(unlikely but possible).
I must say, that I still think he erred in not hiring a specialist coach for the bigs, despite his reasonable explanation that every big wants to play like a guard or wing...I'm not fond of the concept of our aging staff taking on added responsibilities. Hoping for a great season and quite optimistic.
This group is going to scare a whole lot of people.
I was right with you up until this statement "I'm not fond of the concept of our aging staff taking on added responsibilities."
Jasmine is younger than Marissa so the UCONN WBB staff would be actually getting younger and "probably" better able to relate to today's recruits.
What "added responsibilities"? UCONN WBB players have always been well schooled in all aspects of basketball=same responsibilities. Perhaps the responsibilities will be divided differently among the staff but I definitely don't see added responsibilities.
 

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While ND had only one, this year’s ND team may well field a starting 5 who will all be worthy of consideration as AA’s. That brings me to a question. Can anyone name a women’s national championship team that did not have at least one AA?
Off the top of my head: Texas A& M 2011, Maryland 2006, & Baylor 2005-I think.
 

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I'll start by saying we were all spoiled rotten by Stewie and company winning four national championships in a row. The sky has now fallen that we lost two years in a row in the national semis by a buzer beater.
It is a reminder of how extraordinarily difficult it is to win a national championship. We have had talented players, along with the same outstanding coaching, the last two seasons but we couldn't quite get over the hump. Making it to the final four but losing by a last second bucket would be the highlight of many players and coaches careers. It would be the moment that waxed eloquently about. The moment that fondly recalled as the their best year. At UConn we despair over those seasons as disappointments.

I want the team to win this year mostly for Lou and Pheesa, like last year I wanted it for Kia and Gabby. We'll see. I like what I'm hearing from ONO and CW. And I like seeing the effort from Megan. Lou being healthy is a huge difference maker. I feel like the stars may just align for us again. But if it does, we should not take it granted. We'll have caught lightening in a bottle once again. We should cherish it. It wouldn't be around forever.

(We're still doomed.)
 

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sorry...not trying to be disparaging..just making reference to the AA in your comment.....in general I think we all have a fascination with UConn players becoming All Americans even when that doesn't guarantee the team's success
I'm with you. I don't care about AA nor undefeated seasons if the team wins the NC.
 

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I was right with you up until this statement "I'm not fond of the concept of our aging staff taking on added responsibilities."
Jasmine is younger than Marissa so the UCONN WBB staff would be actually getting younger and "probably" better able to relate to today's recruits.
What "added responsibilities"? UCONN WBB players have always been well schooled in all aspects of basketball=same responsibilities. Perhaps the responsibilities will be divided differently among the staff but I definitely don't see added responsibilities.

I was referring to senior staff: Geno and CD
If Shea is not 100% involved (for a while?) Jas covers her
and there is hardly "less work for mother."
Perhaps Shea can't travel as much...needs more time off
or perhaps there is no work related issues whatsoever.

Still feels like additional workload for Geno and CD.
 

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I was referring to senior staff: Geno and CD
If Shea is not 100% involved (for a while?) Jas covers her
and there is hardly "less work for mother."
Perhaps Shea can't travel as much...needs more time off
or perhaps there is no work related issues whatsoever.
Still feels like additional workload for Geno and CD.
I see what you tried to do there. Shea being a new mother does not count as an increase in responsibilities for the UCONN staff.
This is entirely manageable, there are no work related issues, stop making up things.
 

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Off the top of my head: Texas A& M 2011, Maryland 2006, & Baylor 2005-I think.
I knew someone would challenge me on this. I’ll give you the Lady Turtles in ‘06, but A&M was lead by AA Danielle Adams and Baylor by AA Sophia Young.
 

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I knew someone would challenge me on this. I’ll give you the Lady Turtles in ‘06, but A&M was lead by AA Danielle Adams and Baylor by AA Sophia Young.
Revised answer: It has happened three times 1985 ODU, 1987 Tn., & 2006 Md. if you go by the player being named WBCA AA in the year the team won the Championship.

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No, no no no no! With all the talent on the team, why would you want one player to be the first and second option? What happens when she gets shut down or is in foul trouble? First option, maybe, but not first and second. Believe me, KLS may wind up being the third best player on this season's team and not because she does not play extremely well. AA well. However, there may be two who play even better. UConn may very well have four AA this season.

Yeah we had so many options last two years and when it counts knowone steps up. Chong lay up failure two years ago and last year we dribble the ball to oblivion. Lou needs to play the BS role and be our senior leader.
We will see
 
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I was referring to senior staff: Geno and CD
If Shea is not 100% involved (for a while?) Jas covers her
and there is hardly "less work for mother."
Perhaps Shea can't travel as much...needs more time off
or perhaps there is no work related issues whatsoever.

Still feels like additional workload for Geno and CD.
In Geno's Courant podcast from this morning he said, "We just hired Jamelle Elliot to do some work for us." Maybe she's going to help out with the post players. ?? If not CD can handle it.
 
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In Geno's Courant podcast from this morning he said, "We just hired Jamelle Elliot to do some work for us." Maybe she's going to help out with the post players. ?? If not CD can handle it.

Does UConn really have any post players?
 
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You must be a cook in real life because you sure like to stir the pot.


kinda............. Pheesa gets some of her points from the post but is she really a post player? We don't know exactly where ONO will be stationed........... Camara perhaps?............hopefully they will have a traditional post in Ms Boston...............
 

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In Geno's Courant podcast from this morning he said, "We just hired Jamelle Elliot to do some work for us." Maybe she's going to help out with the post players. ?? If not CD can handle it.

Takes care of any potential issue, in my view.
Great minds think....(that's for Coco)
 

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