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Thanks for the info. Glad it’s not the norm in my neck of the woods. That doesn’t seem to be ideal IMO.
Your unfamiliarity with the Pac-12 is on display here.

Pac-12 scheduling is organized around pairs of “travel partners” that take turns visiting the other geographic pairings with (usually) a day off between the two games. So the road games against, say, the LA schools are combined into one trip with a day off between games.
 
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I wouldn’t call Utah that solid with losses to Stanford at home (a Stanford team that was blown out by Gonzaga) and to unranked Arizona, and their best player has been sitting on the bench since early December. UCLA could drop more than you think.
Well Utah isn’t in the mix for being a number 1 seed by any means, but they do have some impressive points on the resume with wins over USC and UCLA now.

The Arizona loss looks gross, but losses to Stanford by 2, Colorado and South Carolina by 11 and 9 and Baylor by 7 … I mean it’s a tough schedule. They’ve played 5 legit top 12 teams and went 2-3. They aren’t terrible. They do have a NET ranking of 5th in the country for whatever that’s worth ‍♂️
 
Interesting. I get it from a financial perspective. I bet coaches aren’t quite as thrilled. That’s a quick scout and game plan on the Sunday opponent after just playing Friday.
Lol first of all, there's no rule against scouting your opponents more than a game in advance. Teams do this all the time anyway.

Secondly, if coaches don't like a two-day turnaround where they have to game plan on short notice, then they're probably not good in the NCAA Tournament. Maybe that explains all the epic flops by the teams from your neck of the woods.
 
Your unfamiliarity with the Pac-12 is on display here.

Pac-12 scheduling is organized around pairs of “travel partners” that take turn visiting the other geographic pairings with (usually) a day off between the two games. So the road games against, say, the LA schools are combined into one trip with a day off between games.
Yes, I read the post just above this explaining such. You’re correct, I haven’t followed the PAC 12 closely in my life. I’m a sports fan in North Carolina who has developed an interest in women’s basketball over the last 3 or 4 years. So while I know overall themes and story lines of the past on a national scale, I only can attest to being more acutely familiar with the triangle schools here in NC as well as the ACC.

I appreciate the interest of women’s basketball on this board, I’ve found it’s more active than most so I visit here semi-regularly and chime in when I have a thought or opinion. We are all learning on some level I would assume, I admit my knowledge of the pac 12 isn’t one that I’d hang my hat on. I appreciate how most on here seem to be a welcoming group and willing to have conversations without looking down on others or insinuating any sort of superiority towards other fans of the sport.
 
Lol first of all, there's no rule against scouting your opponents more than a game in advance. Teams do this all the time anyway.

Secondly, if coaches don't like a two-day turnaround where they have to game plan on short notice, then they're probably not good in the NCAA Tournament. Maybe that explains all the epic flops by the teams from your neck of the woods.
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I appreciate the interest of women’s basketball on this board, I’ve found it’s more active than most so I visit here semi-regularly and chime in when I have a thought or opinion. We are all learning on some level I would assume, I admit my knowledge of the pac 12 isn’t one that I’d hang my hat on. I appreciate how most on here seem to be a welcoming group and willing to have conversations without looking down on others or insinuating any sort of superiority towards other fans of the sport.
Glad you appreciate these qualities. And I appreciate how most of the visitors to this forum from other fan bases tend to respect other teams without making negative assumptions about topics they're uninformed on.
 
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I wouldn’t call Utah that solid with losses to Stanford at home (a Stanford team that was blown out by Gonzaga) and to unranked Arizona, and their best player has been sitting on the bench since early December. UCLA could drop more than you think.
I am not so sure you are paying attention here. #1 Alyssa Pili is Utah’s best player and was selected as Conference POY last year in the PA. Gianna Kneepkens was lost due to injury in early December and she was the Utes second best player and best outside shooter. Utah got royally hosed by the PAC12 refs in both their losses to Stanford and Arizona. So despite Arizona not being top 25 ranked, as of this posting they are in the mix for an NCAA bid. And as our favorite Duke colleague often says, throw out the book in the rivalry games (think about St. John’s beating UConn last year at UConn) as it happens so don’t be looking down so condescendingly on Utah, this is a very good team who has overachieved.
Also, Brink was sick during that Gonzaga game and only played 11 min. Again don’t take too much stock in one win at home. Gonzaga has lost to a mediocre Washington State team as well as Louisville. So all things have to be taken as a “body of work” and not reviewed individually.
 
Glad you appreciate these qualities. And I appreciate how most of the visitors to this forum from other fan bases tend to respect other teams without making negative assumptions about topics they're uninformed on.
I’m not intending to be negative or disrespectful. I didn’t know the reason for the Friday/Sunday scheduling in the Pac12 and while now I have learned the logic behind it and can understand that, I still hold my opinion that it isn’t an ideal situation. I also know that I’m just one person and not any sort of authority on the subject, I could be wrong. Maybe the coaches in the pac 12 prefer playing 2 games in 3 days throughout the season and wouldn’t change a thing. I don’t know.

I apologize to all who thought I was being critical or negative by my comments about what I viewed as less than ideal scheduling model.
 
I’m not intending to be negative or disrespectful. I didn’t know the reason for the Friday/Sunday scheduling in the Pac12 and while now I have learned the logic behind it and can understand that, I still hold my opinion that it isn’t an ideal situation. I also know that I’m just one person and not any sort of authority on the subject, I could be wrong. Maybe the coaches in the pac 12 prefer playing 2 games in 3 days throughout the season and wouldn’t change a thing. I don’t know.
Consider the likelihood that if all the coaches hated it, they wouldn't be doing it.

Consider also the possibility that the 2-day turnarounds in the regular season might actually help prepare them for the same turnaround in the NCAA Tournament.

Consider the option of having a more open mind about things.
 
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Coaches Poll:

1

South Carolina (17-0)

800

1

32

2

Kansas State (19-1)

724

7

0

3

Colorado (16-2)

678

3

0

4

UCLA (15-2)

673

5

0

5

Stanford (17-2)

657

8

0

5

Iowa (18-2)

657

2

0

7

North Carolina State (16-2)

560

5

0

8

Connecticut (16-3)

556

10

0

9

LSU (18-2)

551

9

0
 
I am not so sure you are paying attention here. #1 Alyssa Pili is Utah’s best player and was selected as Conference POY last year in the PA. Gianna Kneepkens was lost due to injury in early December and she was the Utes second best player and best outside shooter. Utah got royally hosed by the PAC12 refs in both their losses to Stanford and Arizona. So despite Arizona not being top 25 ranked, as of this posting they are in the mix for an NCAA bid. And as our favorite Duke colleague often says, throw out the book in the rivalry games (think about St. John’s beating UConn last year at UConn) as it happens so don’t be looking down so condescendingly on Utah, this is a very good team who has overachieved.
Also, Brink was sick during that Gonzaga game and only played 11 min. Again don’t take too much stock in one win at home. Gonzaga has lost to a mediocre Washington State team as well as Louisville. So all things have to be taken as a “body of work” and not reviewed individually.
Kneepkens is only a junior and will be back next year, was PAC 12 FOY, Shot 39% from 3. Her loss is huge. Pili is just as important, depending on the oppositions defense. All things considered, Kneepkens is a bigger loss. Tall, fast guards who can hit the three are harder to come by than a slow big body with decent footwork.
 
Consider the likelihood that if all the coaches hated it, they wouldn't be doing it.

Consider also the possibility that the 2-day turnarounds in the regular season might actually help prepare them for the same turnaround in the NCAA Tournament.

Consider the option of having a more open mind about things.
I agree, playing so many 2 games in 3 days will put you in a rhythm of familiarity that it certainly could help come March.

I perhaps pause at the idea that head coaches have a ton of control when it comes to the schedule. But I’ll readily admit I don’t know the answer to that. I’ve just heard enough college coaches moan and complain about when a bye week is or travel dates or whatever else, that it gives me the impression they don’t control the schedule completely. I’ve always assumed that TV contracts probably have a big say in how all that shakes out.

It’s certainly a unique situation it appears. A quick glance around other power conferences it appears everyone typically does 2 days off between games as the norm. I suppose that’s why it stood out to me, and hey, I learned something new!
 
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Both polls side by side

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In the midst of another eventful week for the rankings.

#1 USC solidifying the top spot with a road win over LSU.
#15 ND dropping one to Syracuse.
#23 FSU getting drubbed by Duke (didn’t see that coming).
#10 Texas going down to unranked Oklahoma.

And course the earlier games already discussed with Utah, UCLA, Baylor and KState.

Some big games on tap :
UConn/ND
Colorado/Oregon State
Syracuse/ Va Tech
Utah / Oregon State

ND could drop big with 2 losses this week, Utah, Syracuse, and Oregon State all have opportunities to get 2 top 25 wins in the same week and catapult up in the polls. Should make for a fun weekend of basketball.
 
This is stupid (NOT you - the people who do the rankings and talk about "wins against top 25 teams").

UCONN lost to NC State when State was unranked. That counts as a loss against an unranked opponent, even tho NC State is #7 at the moment. Texas, with the loss of their starting PG, is not the same team. But we beat them when they were #10 and they rose to 3 or 4 or so. UCLA seems to be percolating in the top 3-4 for most of the season.

Plus, with the exception of the NC State game where most of our players were there, the first half of the season was playing "catch up" as one player after another went down an the team had to reinvent itself.

Honestly, the way we are playing now, I'd love a matchup against any of those teams we lost to. Our starters have been phenomenal, and our core 2 bench players have been getting more and more comfortable.

We will know more about our team after this week especially with the ND game, and even more after we face SC.

Anyway my point is - we beat Marquette once when they were #18. But we play them again and it's against an unranked team. IMHO it should be looked at season ending. Especially the NC State game but it holds for Marquette, Creighton, and anyone else in the BE should they get ranked...
Uconn was a different team than...They are a lot better
 
I wouldn’t call Utah that solid with losses to Stanford at home (a Stanford team that was blown out by Gonzaga) and to unranked Arizona, and their best player has been sitting on the bench since early December. UCLA could drop more than you think.
I feel Utah is a top 5 team when Alissa Pili has a good game. And she usually does 90% of the time. They have a very difficult schedule.
 
In the midst of another eventful week for the rankings.

#1 USC solidifying the top spot with a road win over LSU.
#15 ND dropping one to Syracuse.
#23 FSU getting drubbed by Duke (didn’t see that coming).
#10 Texas going down to unranked Oklahoma.

And course the earlier games already discussed with Utah, UCLA, Baylor and KState.

Some big games on tap :
UConn/ND
Colorado/Oregon State
Syracuse/ Va Tech
Utah / Oregon State

ND could drop big with 2 losses this week, Utah, Syracuse, and Oregon State all have opportunities to get 2 top 25 wins in the same week and catapult up in the polls. Should make for a fun weekend of basketball.
NET:
SCar #1
UConn #2
Meet in early February.

all that matters at this time (yeah, I might regret looking foreword but I can’t help it
 
I feel Utah is a top 5 team when Alissa Pili has a good game. And she usually does 90% of the time. They have a very difficult schedule.
Thing with Utah is their learning to adjust without Kneepkens. She was a big part of their offense. They are a good team and not having their starting PG Palmer as well. She is making it back but I think Viera has done a really nice job for them in a pinch. When Palmer is full go they could go with a 2-PG attack. No one should look over Utah.
 
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Maybe not the greatest but far from the worst. They played Iowa twice; how many other teams played two OOC games against top 10 teams? And their win at Iowa was by far the best true road nonconference win by any team in the country.
True but a top 5 team with a strength of schedule at 46 is hard to take.
 
True but a top 5 team with a strength of schedule at 46 is hard to take.
That's not egregious. It's comparable to, or better than, the current SOS rank of many other top 25 teams, e.g.:

Texas 47
NC State 43
LSU 65
Notre Dame 63
Baylor 41
Virginia Tech 57
Louisville 48
Michigan State 42
West Virginia 111
Oregon State 62
 
The only ranking that I am looking for is the one that counts. After the final game of the NCAA'S.
 
I will have a better feel for knowing whether to worry or not about UCONN when they play Notre Dame. If UCONN blows them out, I will worry about our game in Columbia.

We did not play well against LSU but still won. We MUST play better to beat UCONN, IMO...
 
I will have a better feel for knowing whether to worry or not about UCONN when they play Notre Dame. If UCONN blows them out, I will worry about our game in Columbia.

We did not play well against LSU but still won. We MUST play better to beat UCONN, IMO...
I wouldn't worry. UConn has a starting 5 of 3 seniors and 2 freshies. The bench is 2 freshies and 2 cheerleaders and 5 out for the season. You get any of the starting 5 in foul trouble and it's over.
 
I wouldn't worry. UConn has a starting 5 of 3 seniors and 2 freshies. The bench is 2 freshies and 2 cheerleaders and 5 out for the season. You get any of the starting 5 in foul trouble and it's over.
Yes, and Catlin Clark had a field day with us last year. We had 5 WNBA players from last years team. No one gave IOWA a chance. Catlin single handedly showed American what it takes to beat Goliath. You don't think Paige along with Edwards could pull it off?
 
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Yes, and Catlin Clark had a field day with us last year. We had 5 WNBA players from last years team. No one gave IOWA a chance. Catlin single handedly showed American what it takes to beat Goliath. You don't think Paige along with Edwards could pull it off?
UConn doesn't have anyone like Caitlin Clark. You will never in your lifetime see a UConn player go for 45+ whereas Clark has done that a few times just this season alone. It's not that we don't have players capable of it, but the system and the coaches will never allow it.
 
UConn doesn't have anyone like Caitlin Clark. You will never in your lifetime see a UConn player go for 45+ whereas Clark has done that a few times just this season alone. It's not that we don't have players capable of it, but the system and the coaches will never allow it.
That is not necessarily a good thing. - Watched her play against Rutgers - She was not very efficient that game. Paige is very efficient this year
 
Yes, and Catlin Clark had a field day with us last year. We had 5 WNBA players from last years team. No one gave IOWA a chance. Catlin single handedly showed American what it takes to beat Goliath. You don't think Paige along with Edwards could pull it off?
I forget the exact percentages now but Clark v the rest of the team shot about the same against SC. The team as a whole had been together for three years and had a higher shooting percentage than Clark last year, as a team they were 51+%, top two or three best offense with Clark’s teammates being even more efficient than her. In other words, without either Clark or very good shooting from her teammates Iowa would have lost. Pair Clark with, say, “only” the tenth best offensive team and they would have lost to SC.

And, yes, Clark, made it easier for her teammates to shoot and play well, but so did being naturally good shooters playing together for three years (a rarity!) along with playing for a very good coach. It was not single-handed. SC was up against the most experienced and efficient offense in the game last year, but America loves its heroes.
 
UConn doesn't have anyone like Caitlin Clark. You will never in your lifetime see a UConn player go for 45+ whereas Clark has done that a few times just this season alone. It's not that we don't have players capable of it, but the system and the coaches will never allow it.
How many did Paige score the last time you beat us?
 
How many did Paige score the last time you beat us?
It was 31 points on 14-26 shooting, 1-6 3pt, that one was the dagger, and 2 of 2 from the line. She was also the only player from either of the teams to play all 45 minutes.
 
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