2025 WNBA Regular Season

[ISUnorth]

It's a revolving door in Indy right now. We signed Bibby as the 12th player with funds opened up from losing Bonner, and now Bibby is being replaced by Powers 😖

Was watching the Lynx game and see that Indy even signed on Odyssey "Have Suitcase, Will Travel" Sims.

 

[Dillon77]

Wilson's 36/13 overshadows a nice game for Iriafen--21/15.

On top of that, Austin had one of her better games in weeks (18 points), but barely corralled any rebounds. Wilson was just too much for both of them. Citron scored 13 but couldn't get more than 7 shots off. Credit LV's guards for making life hard.
This is where the loss of Sykes hurts.....

 

[WFFL]

After today i have Aja and AT as my Top 2 no specific order Phee has missed too much time to still be favorite for this award and even when she does return due to them already locking up a playoff spot i dont see her having to comeback and put on master class performances like before. The media gets the vote and we know shes the media darling and people are tired of seeing Aja win but i just dont see a player being a front runner or winning the award after missing double digit games for the season.

 

[maccca3232]

The w over the years has been blessed with a number of exceptional elite players deserving of the MVP

AT is one of those players and this season is demonstrating that she has earned the MVP

However she's playing in the Wilson era and there's absolutely no doubt that Wilson earned and deserved her previous MVPs and is once again as she always does having another MVP season.

This season they are 1A and !B

Collier, Wilson and Thomas are almost guaranteed to finish Top 3 in MVP voting this season, in some order.

If so, Collier & Thomas this year will become only:

• 19th & 20th players to finish Top 3 in MVP voting multiple times
• 17th & 18th players to finish Top 4 in MVP voting at least 3 times
• 16th & 17th players to finish Top 5 in MVP voting at least 4 times

The table below shows most Top 5 MVP voting finishes in WNBA history.

Player	MVP	Top 5
Tamika Catchings	1	10
Candace Parker	2	10
Lisa Leslie	3	9
Diana Taurasi	1	8
Breanna Stewart	2	6
Lauren Jackson	3	6
Tina Charles	1	6
Maya Moore	1	5
Elena Delle Donne	2	5
Sheryl Swoopes	3	4
A'ja Wilson	3	4
Cynthia Cooper	2	4
Yolanda Griffith	1	4
Sylvia Fowles	1	4
Brittney Griner	0	4

There are two players who have won an MVP who are not on the above list (Jonquel Jones and Nenka Ogwumike, who both had 3 Top 5 finishes).

 

[MilfordHusky]

Tina had 23/10 in Connecticut's win. She now has 200 double-doubles, the most ever in the W. She is also 2nd in career scoring and 1st in career rebounding.

 

[Dillon77]

Tina had 23/10 in Connecticut's win. She now has 200 double-doubles, the most ever in the W. She is also 2nd in career scoring and 1st in career rebounding.

The latter two data points (pts. scored, rebounds grabbed) go a long way to explaining the (most) double-doubles. Congrats, Tina.

In regards to this particular win over Chicago: as much as the Sun front office is touting its youngsters (Lacan, Morrow, Rivers), the team was led in this one by the old(er) guard: TC and Bria Hartley, with Marina Mabrey as the 28 (almost 29) year old. That trio each scored 20+.

 

[oldude]

Tina had 23/10 in Connecticut's win. She now has 200 double-doubles, the most ever in the W. She is also 2nd in career scoring and 1st in career rebounding.

I’m figuring Tina has another solid 3-4 seasons in the W. I’ve been lobbying for her to spend those seasons in Dallas with Paige as a free agent signee. Add in a few other solid additions and the Wings could go from bad to good very quickly.

 

[TheFarmFan]

Tina had 23/10 in Connecticut's win. She now has 200 double-doubles, the most ever in the W. She is also 2nd in career scoring and 1st in career rebounding.

What's always been confusing to me about Charles is that her individual success has generally not translated to the teams she's been on. She had a couple good seasons with the Liberty, but for the most part, minimal post-season success, and every team she's joined recently has foundered relative to expectations while she's been on it (Mystics, then Phoenix, then Seattle, then Atlanta, now Connecticut - the last one probably being about as good as expected).

By all accounts, she's a great person, a great teammate, and a legit veteran presence. What gives?

 

[Bigboote]

What's always been confusing to me about Charles is that her individual success has generally not translated to the teams she's been on. She had a couple good seasons with the Liberty, but for the most part, minimal post-season success, and every team she's joined recently has foundered relative to expectations while she's been on it (Mystics, then Phoenix, then Seattle, then Atlanta, now Connecticut - the last one probably being about as good as expected).

By all accounts, she's a great person, a great teammate, and a legit veteran presence. What gives?

Yeah, I’d love to see Tina go to a team that might threaten to win a championship.

 

[oldude]

What's always been confusing to me about Charles is that her individual success has generally not translated to the teams she's been on. She had a couple good seasons with the Liberty, but for the most part, minimal post-season success, and every team she's joined recently has foundered relative to expectations while she's been on it (Mystics, then Phoenix, then Seattle, then Atlanta, now Connecticut - the last one probably being about as good as expected).

By all accounts, she's a great person, a great teammate, and a legit veteran presence. What gives?

Yeah, I’d love to see Tina go to a team that might threaten to win a championship.

Tina did win 3 Olympic gold medals. I think those count as championships…..

 

[Dillon77]

Tina did win 3 Olympic gold medals. I think those count as championships…..

@TheFarmFan

In regards to the "what gives" from an earlier comment post, an initial gut might be that Tina scores and grabs, but does she play defense in the paint? Well, the answer to that is, well, yes. She's second all-time in blocks (more than 4,000), trailing only -- here's a weird data point -- Diana Taurasi, a guard.

And when she was younger, I recall she ran the floor pretty well, too. She's not as quick on the first few steps, but who is/are in the 30's? (See Ms. Howard of Indiana...).

So I don't quite know what gives....maybe an in-depth look at the coaches/GM's in charge of the teams many of us thought would take off?

In the meantime, I'll just enjoy seeing how TC, Bria and MM do with the young 'uns down the stretch.

 

[oldhusky]

Yeah, I’d love to see Tina go to a team that might threaten to win a championship.

I don't know for sure, but I suspect Tina has had an opportunity to "chase the ring" so to speak, but more as a complimentary piece, than a featured part of the offense. There was speculation a few years back about joining the Aces when they were top contenders, but that didn't go anywhere.

It could have been many things, but money might have been an issue too. The Aces were able to compliment their stars with good vets who were willing to play for less than market value while ring chasing near the end of their careers. Get maybe one good big backup, one midsize, and one guard, spend as much of your cap as you can on the top 8, near minimum on everyone else, and at least some of the backups at an obvious bargain because they wanted the ring. Tina might not have been willing to take less, I don't know.

Tina might still get that ring, but money, and her legacy with career stats, are also factors and to a certain extent there could be trade offs there.

 

[JellyBean]

After watching that Sky/Sun game, Coach Marsh was correct to crash out the way he did. I get it that refs are going to miss some calls but the way the Sun player was grabbing and holding Elizabeth Williams. Clearly a foul should have been called. Even the defender knew she was fouling and shocked that a whistle wasn't called. I am sure the refs are getting rating for game performance and hopefully they are calling any of the WNBA Final games. It is going to be bad enough with them calling playoff games.

 

[azfan]

Tina had 23/10 in Connecticut's win. She now has 200 double-doubles, the most ever in the W. She is also 2nd in career scoring and 1st in career rebounding.

Amazing - ageless and I wonder how Phoenix failed to incorporate her. A pre million dollar coach FUBAR and one that, along with the Sandy Brondello decision, haunts all Merc fans.

 

[azfan]

After watching that Sky/Sun game, Coach Marsh was correct to crash out the way he did. I get it that refs are going to miss some calls but the way the Sun player was grabbing and holding Elizabeth Williams. Clearly a foul should have been called. Even the defender knew she was fouling and shocked that a whistle wasn't called. I am sure the refs are getting rating for game performance and hopefully they are calling any of the WNBA Final games. It is going to be bad enough with them calling playoff games.

Yes, in defense of the officials, it must be a real headache to call a Suns game, talk about a gang that could have trained under CCT - they LOVE contact and LOVE to administer it led by the chief bouncer, that Notre Dame WWE guard.

 

[azfan]

I’m figuring Tina has another solid 3-4 seasons in the W. I’ve been lobbying for her to spend those seasons in Dallas with Paige as a free agent signee. Add in a few other solid additions and the Wings could go from bad to good very quickly.

I agree - she really is playing amazing.

Rather than sentencing her to Dallas (a gulag that may take many, many years) I'd love to see how the million dollar coach would incorporate her - trade Mack, Laska, Held, and a third round pick (I mean, this is Dallas) and let us see if Nate can match wits with Tina.

This assumes that the CBA gets done and allows for more "flexibility" with an increased soft salary cap.

 

[Basingstoke]

I agree - she really is playing amazing.

Rather than sentencing her to Dallas (a gulag that may take many, many years) I'd love to see how the million dollar coach would incorporate her - trade Mack, Laska, Held, and a third round pick (I mean, this is Dallas) and let us see if Nate can match wits with Tina.

This assumes that the CBA gets done and allows for more "flexibility" with an increased soft salary cap.

Tina will be an unrestricted free agents following this season.

 

[MilfordHusky]

I’m figuring Tina has another solid 3-4 seasons in the W. I’ve been lobbying for her to spend those seasons in Dallas with Paige as a free agent signee. Add in a few other solid additions and the Wings could go from bad to good very quickly.

If Tina plays 4 more years and averages 14 ppg, she will pass Taurasi as the all-time leading scorer.

 

[cancontent]

Geez. Fortunately it's a sprain but it still sucks.

 

[oldude]

Geez. Fortunately it's a sprain but it still sucks.

The Wings were not a very good team to begin with. But all the injuries they’ve sustained have really sapped any competitive chance they might have hoped for.

 

[TheFarmFan]

The Wings were not a very good team to begin with. But all the injuries they’ve sustained have really sapped any competitive chance they might have hoped for.

Seeing as how Golden State plays them in an hour, and our playoff hopes are very much on the fence, from your lips to the woofing gods' ears... Any given game, Paige can go off for 44..

 

[azfan]

Great to watch three games today but the big game is Wednesday in Atlanta.

How long can Becky keep the streak going? This is a huge game for both teams.

 

[azfan]

Tina will be an unrestricted free agents following this season.

As will everyone else. I would hope if the million dollar coach wanted to give Tina a shot he'd be smart enough how to figure that out.

 

[azfan]

Seeing as how Golden State plays them in an hour, and our playoff hopes are very much on the fence, from your lips to the woofing gods' ears... Any given game, Paige can go off for 44..

Wonder what Vegas knows that we don't. The Valkyries are only a one-point favorite and the ESPN matchup predictor is favoring the home Wing.

In my mind Paige won't be able to keep the W.
ing within 15

I know the Golden State sharpshooters are salivating at the prospect of the Dallas defense

 

[azfan]

If Tina plays 4 more years and averages 14 ppg, she will pass Taurasi as the all-time leading scorer.

Well if the GOAT could play into her 40s I don't see any reason why Tina can't put four more years on the court. Perhaps this goes the calculus into where she lands.

I'm not sure if Tina continues her ability to regularly play and I would wonder if rest
increase if she plays over the next 4 years impacting her chase