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gtcam said:
Some GM could make a crazy arse deal with Dallas to pick someone else #1 instead of Flagg - I understand almost 99% not going to happen but in the business of pro athletics you just never know
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Uhhh I don’t think anyone would offer a crazy deal to move to #1 just to draft a guy who is not cooper flagg. Wouldn’t they just offer less to move to 2 to get their guy? I think the only team that could even DREAM about trading up to 1 would be the spurs from 2

Again - I’m not advocating trading Castle. If they want to keep 2 and pick Harper, more power to them. If they want to trade down and pick up someone like Lauri or Cam Johnson in the process and keep Castle, that’s terrific as well. Very hard to mess up having a generational 7’4 center, an established all star PG, a burgeoning young star in Castle, the #2 pick in a two player draft, cap flexibility, and movable enticing contracts
 
Duke has plenty of wing talent with their freshmen that are returning so it won't really hurt them but I see Coward staying in the draft, he even had Zach Lowe talking about him on his podcast

 
superjohn said:
That stinks. Already underwent surgery? Did they perform the surgery the second the MRI revealed the injury?
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aceboon said:
surgery in a less than 24 hr turnaround, damn that was fast
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Lots of good hospitals and surgeons in Boston or New York. He’s a hyper competitive guy, rarely misses games. I’m sure he wanted to get back as soon as possible so wanted the surgery as soon as possible.
 
Beowulf said:
Uhhh I don’t think anyone would offer a crazy deal to move to #1 just to draft a guy who is not cooper flagg. Wouldn’t they just offer less to move to 2 to get their guy? I think the only team that could even DREAM about trading up to 1 would be the spurs from 2

Again - I’m not advocating trading Castle. If they want to keep 2 and pick Harper, more power to them. If they want to trade down and pick up someone like Lauri or Cam Johnson in the process and keep Castle, that’s terrific as well. Very hard to mess up having a generational 7’4 center, an established all star PG, a burgeoning young star in Castle, the #2 pick in a two player draft, cap flexibility, and movable enticing contracts
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I think it’s entirely plausible they sell high and package Castle, #2, and a bunch of future picks for Giannis. If Bucks are going into rebuild mode they’re going to want a younger star and the picks they traded for Dame back. Harper isn’t enough of a consultation prize to stick w it.

Not a bad situation for Castle because he gets to continue being showcased. The way he was used last year was circumstantial.
 
Matrim55 said:
Send Jrue home to the Clippers. They still can't tank and he fits what they need. Celtics should be able to get a flipppable expiring and maybe a couple of second-rounders back.

Trade Kristaps to the Magic. They badly need anyone who can shoot, and if he's healthy, he's perfect for them. Given he's on an expiring and the East is relatively open, that's a worthwhile risk for them.

Hauser to the Spurs into cap space? Makes a lot of sense for a team that'll need shooters (especially if Vassell is part of the Giannis trade).

And then the big ones... do they trade White or Brown? I mostly doubt it, but wouldn't rule it out entirely.
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Who would they get back for each of those dudes? destinations make sense but the trade values have to as well.
 
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The Spurs may not need a guard but a future backcourt with the size and skills of Castle and Harper would be scary
 
aceboon said:
Duke has plenty of wing talent with their freshmen that are returning so it won't really hurt them but I see Coward staying in the draft, he even had Zach Lowe talking about him on his podcast

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I wanted us to target this dude during the Alex debacle. Duke must be sick with how much press he's been getting, same for Kentucky and Oweh.
 
Drame said:
They dont need Giannis. All their best guys are super young. Ages 19, 20, 21 and 27. Giannis is on the down slope and gonna get in the way of Wemby. And Giannis is gonna cost 60 mil a year. Better to build a deep young team. What do the Lakers, Phili, Clippers, Phoenix, and Milwaukee all have in common, aging superstars and MVPs who are not in the playoffs anymore.
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Luka is 26.
Drame said:
Thats crazy. He's not the spacer. They dont want him hanging out on the perimeter. When youre that tall and athletic you make things happen around the basket
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you obviously did not see him play this year!
 
bjc42 said:
Who would they get back for each of those dudes? destinations make sense but the trade values have to as well.
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The value they'd be looking for is getting under the apron, and under the tax entirely if possible. So we're not gonna see a ton of picks in return unless they ship out Brown and/or White.

So for Jrue it would be something like Powell's expiring and Jordan Miller's non-guaranteed deal to make the numbers work (they'd then work to try to flip Powell to a team that needs a bench sniper and has cap space), and hopefully a couple of second-rounders.

For Porzingis they could make the numbers work in exchange for Wendell Carter, provided Orlando don't pick up the options on Harris and Howard (which is extremely likely). I doubt picks would change hands with that one.

Add the Hauser move on top of it and they'll have shaved about $42m off their cap hit, which gets them under the first apron. If they find a taker for Powell – at best they'd get a late first for him – then they're all the way under the tax.
 
I don't know who Tre Johnson reminds me of but the dude is so smooth, the jumper is so silent and effortless and I just think there's zero chance he doesn't get you buckets. There may be higher ceilings, but I see no way this guy isn't scoring buckets in the league.
 
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Matrim55 said:
The value they'd be looking for is getting under the apron, and under the tax entirely if possible. So we're not gonna see a ton of picks in return unless they ship out Brown and/or White.

So for Jrue it would be something like Powell's expiring and Jordan Miller's non-guaranteed deal to make the numbers work (they'd then work to try to flip Powell to a team that needs a bench sniper and has cap space), and hopefully a couple of second-rounders.

For Porzingis they could make the numbers work in exchange for Wendell Carter, provided Orlando don't pick up the options on Harris and Howard (which is extremely likely). I doubt picks would change hands with that one.

Add the Hauser move on top of it and they'll have shaved about $42m off their cap hit, which gets them under the first apron. If they find a taker for Powell – at best they'd get a late first for him – then they're all the way under the tax.
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The challenge is that Boston still has to have a team. Kornet has actually looked useful thankfully. They desperately need a more athletic rim protector and rebounder. I think they could really use picks or enough ammo to maybe move up and get a center. Brad has loads of 2nds I believe. I expect Baylor S is going to get a decent look next year and could surprise. Walsh, maybe.
 
HuskyHawk said:
The challenge is that Boston still has to have a team.
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As a Celtics fan I'm hoping they will/expecting them to tank 2020-2021 Golden State-style.

Give Brown 45 games and shut him down. Find a fake injury to end White's season by mid-December. Give the rest of the minutes to Pritchard, Scheierman and high-upside projects.

We could very easily cook up a scenario in which we lose about 55-60 games.
 
Matrim55 said:
The value they'd be looking for is getting under the apron, and under the tax entirely if possible. So we're not gonna see a ton of picks in return unless they ship out Brown and/or White.

So for Jrue it would be something like Powell's expiring and Jordan Miller's non-guaranteed deal to make the numbers work (they'd then work to try to flip Powell to a team that needs a bench sniper and has cap space), and hopefully a couple of second-rounders.

For Porzingis they could make the numbers work in exchange for Wendell Carter, provided Orlando don't pick up the options on Harris and Howard (which is extremely likely). I doubt picks would change hands with that one.

Add the Hauser move on top of it and they'll have shaved about $42m off their cap hit, which gets them under the first apron. If they find a taker for Powell – at best they'd get a late first for him – then they're all the way under the tax.
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Interesting work here, thanks man!
 
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aceboon said:
I can't even imagine being a Wizards fan and not even being able to get a top 2 pick in this draft after the losing they've put together the past few seasons
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Well as long suffering Bullet/Wizards fan I can attest to the fact that they have been probably worst run NBA franchise ever. Still, they never seem to get any luck. How can the 14th worst team in the NBA have any chance of getting the first pick of the draft?
 
Tdaley said:
How can the 14th worst team in the NBA have any chance of getting the first pick of the draft?
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If you're in the play-in, you should be ineligible for the top pick. Just slot those teams in like regular playoff teams. And the weighting system can stay, but it should be much more biased toward the worst teams
 
If the Spurs keep the 2nd pick and take Harper.

What do y'all think of a core of Fox, Castle, Harper and Wemby?

Ridiculous amount of talent butnsome question marks shooting it. Would need to surround them with a bunch of shooters (probably Barnes next year?)
 
husky429 said:
If the Spurs keep the 2nd pick and take Harper.

What do y'all think of a core of Fox, Castle, Harper and Wemby?

Ridiculous amount of talent butnsome question marks shooting it. Would need to surround them with a bunch of shooters (probably Barnes next year?)
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Four guards and a skinny big? Doesn't seem like a recipe for success to me. Where's the beef?
 
The Spurs have two first round picks, so they could definitely put a package together for Giannis without giving up top players.
 
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HuskyHawk said:
Four guards and a skinny big? Doesn't seem like a recipe for success to me. Where's the beef?
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Steph can definitely guard 1-3 and can probably also guard some 4s.

I’m in the camp you go get Giannis if he is willing to join. It’s almost a perfect fit with Wemby.
 
Horatio said:
The Spurs have two first round picks, so they could definitely put a package together for Giannis without giving up top players.
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they have to give up a "top" player in some capacity just to make the math work

so, either fox (unlikely given they just traded for him but not impossible), vassell (who i'd prefer the spurs trade over castle, but obviously holds less value)

or

some combination of barnes/keldon in addition to sochan and/or castle

and that's before picks. #2 being gone is a given. #14 does not carry anywhere near enough value to let them keep all of the castle/sochan/vassell young trio. plus a bevy of future picks.

all of this probs doesn't matter - looks like he wants to stay in the east anyways. And outside of Giannis, unclear if anyone else will be available that could cost them Castle. I think it's far more likely they trade down from 2 and try to pick up a guy like Lauri or Cam Johnson. Or just keep the pick and have 2 young, potential all star guards
 
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HuskyHawk said:
Four guards and a skinny big? Doesn't seem like a recipe for success to me. Where's the beef?
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Harper and Castle are both 6'6 215lbs. Plenty of size guard 2s and 3s and even some 4s. I see no issue with personnel as long as they've got a decent 4 who can shoot the rock and a backup big bruiser.

IMO wemby, castle and harper could be like the early days with Russ, Harden and Durant on the Thunder. Exceot the Spurs aren't stupid and won't trade them off.
 
3 guys who need the ball in their hands and like get into a few dribbles before they go to work in Castle/Harper/Fox, I don't know if that's a good mix
 
husky429 said:
If the Spurs keep the 2nd pick and take Harper.

What do y'all think of a core of Fox, Castle, Harper and Wemby?

Ridiculous amount of talent butnsome question marks shooting it. Would need to surround them with a bunch of shooters (probably Barnes next year?)
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Feel like that's a solid core and then you can trade Vassell and some picks to bring in a shooter at the 4
 
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