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2023 WNBA Free Agency

JoePgh said:
So do the Sun have interest and cap space to sign Kia Nurse to replace Courtney Williams?

In Kia's announcement, she said that her teammates in Phoenix "know what it is", presumably meaning her reason for leaving. If it has to do with a geography preference (which I can imagine), then the Sun might fit her desires.
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This is a good question. With Nurse's work with TSN and some of her other business interests, the proximity of Connecticut would be very beneficial.
 
Hayven said:
How did the Aces and Liberty afford to get these superstars? Some took a pay cut?
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When you find out let me know. Maybe they gave up all their draft picks for the next decade? lol
 
jdote33 said:
I feel like you know what it is, is more of a colloquialism or slang. I read it as " you already know how I feel about you" or like "it doesn't really even need to be said". Atleast that's how I interpreted it when I read it.
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This is what she meant by that post....
 
Wolfie464 said:
It is said that Stewie take a paycut, but the owner Tsai is really wealthy bet there are another benefit beside salary to play in NY. And Puma want her in NY because Puma HQ is in NY and NY market is definitely better than SeattleP
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Hayven said:
How did the Aces and Liberty afford to get these superstars? Some took a pay cut?
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Pro equivalent of NIL: marketing opportunities. Besides Puma, I'm sure Stewie has/will have a number of other opportunities. And just think if they get to/win the title?

On other fronts, I'm utterly gobsmacked at the vacancy signs in Chicago and Seattle right now.
 
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I wonder if Emma Messeman is playing this year. I feel like she is the biggest domino left in free agency. If she signed with a team like Phoenix or back in Washington, that would make things a bit more competitive.
 
jdote33 said:
I wonder if Emma Messeman is playing this year. I feel like she is the biggest domino left in free agency. If she signed with a team like Phoenix or back in Washington, that would make things a bit more competitive.
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I think the popular thinking is that both Meesseman and Julie Allemand are not playing this year due to Eurobasket commitments with Belgium; however, that thinking could be way off.
 
Lorcan said:
I think the popular thinking is that both Meesseman and Julie Allemand are not playing this year due to Eurobasket commitments with Belgium; however, that thinking could be way off.
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www.marqueesportsnetwork.com

What the Sky roster could look like in 2023

With the entire core of the Chicago Sky entering free agency, general manager and head coach James Wade has a lot to mull over when creating the 2023 roster.
www.marqueesportsnetwork.com www.marqueesportsnetwork.com

This article makes it seem that Allemand is considering coming back, while Meeseman could likely sit out because of the new prioritization rule.
 
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Lindsay Allen, Bridget Carleton To Return to Lynx

https://www./wnba/minnesota-lynx/br...allen-reportedly-returning-to-minnesota-lynx/

After being brought aboard late in the season, Allen got progressively more time and scored 20 points in the Lynx's last game.
She is now the only point guard on the Lynx roster. Room for one more?

Tiffany Mitchell is coming over from Indiana, but she's a shooting guard and allegedly will split time with Kayla McBride.
 
baggerbob said:
That's 4 pieces to the puzzle. Loyd, Russell, Nurse, and Ezi. If they can add a few good players, they will be competitive.
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Another thing I forgot is that Nurse has a good relationship with Quinn already. Quinn is an AC with the Canadian National team. She's had the opportunity to work with her for the last year and change already.
 
baggerbob said:
That's 4 pieces to the puzzle. Loyd, Russell, Nurse, and Ezi. If they can add a few good players, they will be competitive.
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Read that Isabelle Harrison has had talks with Seattle, which could add another big.
 
Geew1992 said:
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Sami's been around. She's not going or signing anywhere without a guaranteed contract.
Well, there's now no Opals on the Liberty roster for Coach Brondello, but Sami's gone and joined Ezi, so there's two on the Storm, now, while "Spider" is now in Connecticut.
 
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So between LV and NY, which team do y’all think will be better? They’re far and away the top two teams in the league. I’d be shocked if they aren’t in the finals.

I’d probably give the edge to LV because they have fewer pieces to integrate (and Parker showed she can fit in with anybody with the Sky), but at the same time it feels insane to bet against the NY lineup. Jones/Ionescu/Sloot/Stewart, wow.
 
GoChips20 said:
So between LV and NY, which team do y’all think will be better? They’re far and away the top two teams in the league. I’d be shocked if they aren’t in the finals.

I’d probably give the edge to LV because they have fewer pieces to integrate (and Parker showed she can fit in with anybody with the Sky), but at the same time it feels insane to bet against the NY lineup. Jones/Ionescu/Sloot/Stewart, wow.
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It's tough! lol. I think the starting lineups are pretty even, though there are some interesting debates: Stewie vs Wilson, Ionescu vs Plum. But I think the biggest difference is the bench. If NYL brings back Johannes, they have her, Onyenwere, Thorton, Dolson and potentially the 6th pick. If that's someone like Maddy Siegrist, they are pretty loaded. I like that Vegas got Alysha Clark and Riquina Williams off the bench, but other than that I'm not sure they have much proven bench players. I know Hammon plays the starters a lot anyways, but still.

I also think a lot of the Liberty have played together overseas. I'm pretty sure JJ, Sloot, and Stewie have played with one another overseas. So roster wise and in terms of who may win the most games, I think NYL has the edge. But in an actual finals matchup, I'm not sure Sloot or Ionescu can guard Plum and Gray, which I think is a big deal.
 
GoChips20 said:
So between LV and NY, which team do y’all think will be better? They’re far and away the top two teams in the league. I’d be shocked if they aren’t in the finals.

I’d probably give the edge to LV because they have fewer pieces to integrate (and Parker showed she can fit in with anybody with the Sky), but at the same time it feels insane to bet against the NY lineup. Jones/Ionescu/Sloot/Stewart, wow.
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The bench of Dolson, Han Yu, Johannes, Thornton, and Onyenwere, not counting Richard's is better then LV has. The first 3 could start on most teams.
Dolson, Han Yu, and Johannes are good 3 PT shooters. Han Yu and Johannes both shot 40+ from 3.
And sometimes you might have Han Yu, JJ, and Stewie on the floor, a nightmare for anyone including Vegas.
And everyone on NY is 30 or under except Sloot.
 
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jdote33 said:
It's tough! lol. I think the starting lineups are pretty even, though there are some interesting debates: Stewie vs Wilson, Ionescu vs Plum. But I think the biggest difference is the bench. If NYL brings back Johannes, they have her, Onyenwere, Thorton, Dolson and potentially the 6th pick. If that's someone like Maddy Siegrist, they are pretty loaded. I like that Vegas got Alysha Clark and Riquina Williams off the bench, but other than that I'm not sure they have much proven bench players. I know Hammon plays the starters a lot anyways, but still.

I also think a lot of the Liberty have played together overseas. I'm pretty sure JJ, Sloot, and Stewie have played with one another overseas. So roster wise and in terms of who may win the most games, I think NYL has the edge. But in an actual finals matchup, I'm not sure Sloot or Ionescu can guard Plum and Gray, which I think is a big deal.
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Plum and Gray can't guard Sloot or Ionescu. And when you get in the lane against the Liberty you have Stewie, JJ, and sometimes Han Yu.
They all are guick long and good shotblockers, who can change shots.
 
jdote33 said:
It's tough! lol. I think the starting lineups are pretty even, though there are some interesting debates: Stewie vs Wilson, Ionescu vs Plum. But I think the biggest difference is the bench. If NYL brings back Johannes, they have her, Onyenwere, Thorton, Dolson and potentially the 6th pick. If that's someone like Maddy Siegrist, they are pretty loaded. I like that Vegas got Alysha Clark and Riquina Williams off the bench, but other than that I'm not sure they have much proven bench players. I know Hammon plays the starters a lot anyways, but still.

I also think a lot of the Liberty have played together overseas. I'm pretty sure JJ, Sloot, and Stewie have played with one another overseas. So roster wise and in terms of who may win the most games, I think NYL has the edge. But in an actual finals matchup, I'm not sure Sloot or Ionescu can guard Plum and Gray, which I think is a big deal.
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I think this is a pretty good analysis. From my perspective (Aces fan) I think the comparison of starting lineups is very even except for the SF or 3 position. There I think Jackie Young has a significant edge over Laney.

As for backups, both teams after using most of their cap on the top 5, have managed to at least have three productive backups including a big, wing, and guard. Dolson, Thornton and Johannes for the Liberty and George, Clark and Williams for the Aces. If healthy those 8 for both squads should get the job done.

The tail end of the roster is still largely up in the air for both. In each case those will have to be rookie contracts or vet minimums. I think for the Aces Rupert has potential and certainly Han Yu looks like she could be more than that, but while reserved her contract is up. Can the Liberty bring her back at a vet minimum? She might be too good for that salary level, but if they do it would be a major plus for the Liberty.

There is also the possibility of vet ring chasers for those remaining spots. Someone whose market value is much higher, but a player who is willing to accept the minimum to potentially get a ring, so it will be interesting to see how those last spots fill out. Someone said the Aces for example will be left with about $23,000 in cap to work with on top of their existing contracts. While that doesn't sound like much it would allow them to replace up to 3 rookie scale contracts with potential vet minimum ring chasers if they become available. Time will tell.
 
nwhoopfan said:
I'd say that's very much vice versa, so that particular issue cancels out
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I was thinking the same thing. Ionescu and Sloot are much slower than Plum and Gray. As it stands Gray might be the most unguardable guard in the league going into this season.

I believe in the W it's really important to have good depth of at least 7-8 players. Anything more than that is gravy but not exactly a huge competitive advantage. Vegas and NY have that and those top 7-8 players that are going to determine who wins throughout the season and championships.
 
GCKSFN4L said:
I was thinking the same thing. Ionescu and Sloot are much slower than Plum and Gray. As it stands Gray might be the most unguardable guard in the league going into this season.
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I looked at all the box scores of the games between the 3 teams. LV went 2-1 against NY and 3-1 against Chicago (including Commissioner's Cup Game). Ionescu had 2 really good games and one poor game. Sloot had one really good game but otherwise was kinda quiet in the series. Gray was all over the place. The most consistently productive player of the 4 mentioned in a total of 7 games was Plum.
 
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