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Ironically or not, wbb at the high level is new to thee LSU fans and they are still celebrating their rather unexpected championship. They will grow more particular as the newness wears off.

But, I expect Kim to schedule more quality in her non-conference schedule in the future IF OTHERS WILL PLAY HER!! Honestly, who wanted to play her this year with a championship level squad that added Mortow, Van although and Mikayla? The schedule was not all her fault.
I bet Iowa would have liked another shot at LSU. But, still, there has to be someone better than Queens (NC). South Carolina, Stanford, Iowa, UCLA didn’t have trouble finding decent teams to play
 
I bet Iowa would have liked another shot at LSU. But, still, there has to be someone better than Queens (NC). South Carolina, Stanford, Iowa, UCLA didn’t have trouble finding decent teams to play

My Royals catching a stray a few days before Christmas :oops:
 
I bet Iowa would have liked another shot at LSU. But, still, there has to be someone better than Queens (NC). South Carolina, Stanford, Iowa, UCLA didn’t have trouble finding decent teams to play
Because Kim is scared, she can't beat quality teams without a massive talent advantage is why. She would lose the vast majority of those games if she did schedule them.
 
I think Kim uses the cupcakes the way other coaches use a practice squad. It's a plan, to get her kids used to finding their spots against weak competition, and to get used to winning. By tournament time, they know how they're supposed to move and where they're supposed to be on defense.

In some ways, the cupcake schedule last year wasn't quite as shocking as it is this year, just because the SEC doesn't seem as strong as it was last season. I mean, LSU lost to a ranked team in the first week and beat another ranked team a month later. But they won't face another ranked team until the end of January when they play SC, and then not another ranked team until the tournament. They'll end up with 2 or maybe 3 losses by the tournament, and have one of the weakest schedules for a contender. Is that Kim's fault or are the ranking schemes out of date? It's a fair question.
It is COMPLETELY Kim’s fault as she is NOTORIOUS for scheduling weak teams AT HOME and is proud about. Just use Google and look at last years comments or 2 years ago and her comments.
While the process of obliterating less skilled schools and programs helped her last year, most of the time it severely hurt her Baylor teams given so many “early” exits as #1 or #2 seed as her teams simply were not battle tested. I look at her pedigree and resume and am completely confused by her bizarre stance on this. She’s an NCAA titleist as a player (1982), a finalist as a player (1983), Titleist as an Assistant Coach (1988), a Gold medalist in the Olympics (1984) and a 4 time HC Title winner (2005, 2012, 2019, 2023) so why she doesn’t do more to promote the sport is really mind boggling to me. She is the Ultimate “if your are not with me, you are against me” person so she most definitely will bite off her know to spite her face to prove she’s right.
Like I said, I wish this was not her mode but it is and it is tough to truly support her when all you can see is bitterness at times.
She does know how to coach and it wouldn’t be that hard to modify.
 
Ironically or not, wbb at the high level is new to thee LSU fans and they are still celebrating their rather unexpected championship. They will grow more particular as the newness wears off.

But, I expect Kim to schedule more quality in her non-conference schedule in the future IF OTHERS WILL PLAY HER!! Honestly, who wanted to play her this year with a championship level squad that added Mortow, Van although and Mikayla? The schedule was not all her fault.
First of all, wbb at the highest level is NOT "new to LSU fans". We'd been to five final fours and won the SEC numerous times before Kim got there AND before SC was any good. What Kim did is wake up a sleeping fan base that had been put to sleep by Nikki Fargas' terrible tenure. Now that we have an AD who cares and a coach who's as good as anyone in the game, the fans are back.

With that being said, many of you can be mad if you want at Kim's scheduling, but it is not her job to "grow women's basketball". Her job is to win games and championships for LSU, period. So, again, there's a "method to her madness" and it seems to work as well as anyone else's method in the game today
 
First of all, wbb at the highest level is NOT "new to LSU fans". We'd been to five final fours and won the SEC numerous times before Kim got there AND before SC was any good. What Kim did is wake up a sleeping fan base that had been put to sleep by Nikki Fargas' terrible tenure. Now that we have an AD who cares and a coach who's as good as anyone in the game, the fans are back.

With that being said, many of you can be mad if you want at Kim's scheduling, but it is not her job to "grow women's basketball". Her job is to win games and championships for LSU, period. So, again, there's a "method to her madness" and it seems to work as well as anyone else's method in the game today

Hasn't she benefited from the growth of women's basketball however? If you look at where basketball was when she was a collegiate player to now, I think she has.

She has one if not the highest salaries in NCAAW. Huge investments have been made to upgrade her teams facilities. National attention for anything she does whether it merits attention or not.

None of this would have happened if the sport hadn't gained popularity which is growth. These P5 conferences wouldn't have the money they do to throw around if the game hadn't grown. She wouldn't have coached the players she's had over the years of there wasn't growth in the game.

These go hand in hand from my perspective.
 
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First of all, wbb at the highest level is NOT "new to LSU fans". We'd been to five final fours and won the SEC numerous times before Kim got there AND before SC was any good. What Kim did is wake up a sleeping fan base that had been put to sleep by Nikki Fargas' terrible tenure. Now that we have an AD who cares and a coach who's as good as anyone in the game, the fans are back.

With that being said, many of you can be mad if you want at Kim's scheduling, but it is not her job to "grow women's basketball". Her job is to win games and championships for LSU, period. So, again, there's a "method to her madness" and it seems to work as well as anyone else's method in the game today
It may not officially be in her job description, however as Geno and other coaches have said many times in past years, without more exposure to the game, which gets more fans, WBB will not grow as much as everyone wants. In the recent article about Aaliyah's homecoming game, he explains why he does it, the impact for the city and opposing team. Same with DT and KLS out west, Stevie's game @ Colgate, among others.
 
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First of all, wbb at the highest level is NOT "new to LSU fans". We'd been to five final fours and won the SEC numerous times before Kim got there AND before SC was any good. What Kim did is wake up a sleeping fan base that had been put to sleep by Nikki Fargas' terrible tenure. Now that we have an AD who cares and a coach who's as good as anyone in the game, the fans are back.

With that being said, many of you can be mad if you want at Kim's scheduling, but it is not her job to "grow women's basketball". Her job is to win games and championships for LSU, period. So, again, there's a "method to her madness" and it seems to work as well as anyone else's method in the game today
Well said on the part about the history of LSU women's basketball. I will ignore the comments about Coach Fargas/Caldwell. :cool: Heck even under Coach Fargas/Caldwell, LSU was NCAA tournament bound. But LSU has been a staple in women's basketball forever. Under Sue Gunter, in the 80s & 90s, LSU was a force. Same with Pokey Chatman, even though she had short run, but LSU has always been a women's basketball mover/shaker.

As for Coach Mulkey growing the game, she is growing the game her way. She is playing and helping programs. She is hosting camps and doing speaking tours. She has LSU women's basketball on the radar of many high school basketball players, fans, and networks. She is growing the game her way and the growth of women's basketball is in good hands.
 
It is COMPLETELY Kim’s fault as she is NOTORIOUS for scheduling weak teams AT HOME and is proud about. Just use Google and look at last years comments or 2 years ago and her comments.
While the process of obliterating less skilled schools and programs helped her last year, most of the time it severely hurt her Baylor teams given so many “early” exits as #1 or #2 seed as her teams simply were not battle tested. I look at her pedigree and resume and am completely confused by her bizarre stance on this. She’s an NCAA titleist as a player (1982), a finalist as a player (1983), Titleist as an Assistant Coach (1988), a Gold medalist in the Olympics (1984) and a 4 time HC Title winner (2005, 2012, 2019, 2023) so why she doesn’t do more to promote the sport is really mind boggling to me. She is the Ultimate “if your are not with me, you are against me” person so she most definitely will bite off her know to spite her face to prove she’s right.
Like I said, I wish this was not her mode but it is and it is tough to truly support her when all you can see is bitterness at times.
She does know how to coach and it wouldn’t be that hard to modify.
How is she not promoting the sport? When she plays those so-called less skilled programs, she is helping those schools with a little exposure and much needed cash for their programs. Those schools, especially the HBCUs on the men's side of basketball and I am sure on the women's side, would welcome the chance to get an invite to play LSU. Or once the schedule is finalized and coaches see that they have a program like LSU on their schedule, this could help with recruiting. Like I said before, Coach Mulkey is helping to grow the game of basketball in her way and the growth of the game is in good hands.
 
I bet Iowa would have liked another shot at LSU. But, still, there has to be someone better than Queens (NC). South Carolina, Stanford, Iowa, UCLA didn’t have trouble finding decent teams to play
The good basketball programs are always remarkably willing to play each other. Mulkey has always been an exception. It's too bad for the fans, but it is how she likes to rolll.
 
The good basketball programs are always remarkably willing to play each other. Mulkey has always been an exception. It's too bad for the fans, but it is how she likes to rolll.
Her scheduling at Baylor was always not good but no doubt it’s been much worse at LSU than it was at Baylor. Even at Baylor she faced UConn/ucla/Stanford/played in some high profile tournaments playing ranked teams even if it wasn’t a lot. At LSU it’s been the polar opposite. Is it because she in the SEC now? Does she not feel confident in her current crop of players? No clue but last years title probably only threw fuel to the fire to continue to schedule that badly.

For the record, tough schedule or weak schedule, I will never doubt Mulkeys teams will be really good and well coached. She has done it every year for a very long time and proof is in the pudding so she has earned the benefit of the doubt but her scheduling doesn’t grow the game currently. Playing so many teams in the 300s and winning by 80 is tough to watch. I could tell the last couple years her teams have gotten bored playing in these games after a while. It is what it is, she is so far up in her career it’s never going to change at this point which is why I give up beating a dead horse. Maybe HuskeyNan can pin a mulkey scheduling thread at the top of the page so people can get their complaints out every year with regards to her scheduling instead of it being posted over and over all over the place
 
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Her scheduling at Baylor was always not good but no doubt it’s been much worse at LSU than it was at Baylor. Even at Baylor she faced UConn/ucla/Stanford/played in some high profile tournaments playing ranked teams even if it wasn’t a lot. At LSU it’s been the polar opposite. Is it because she in the SEC now? Does she not feel confident in her current crop of players? No clue but last years title probably only threw fuel to the fire to continue to schedule that badly.

For the record, tough schedule or weak schedule, I will never doubt Mulkeys teams will be really good and well coached. She has done it every year for a very long time and proof is in the pudding so she has earned the benefit of the doubt but her scheduling doesn’t grow the game currently. Playing so many teams in the 300s and winning by 80 is tough to watch. I could tell the last couple years her teams have gotten bored playing in these games after a while. It is what it is, she is so far up in her career it’s never going to change at this point which is why I give up beating a dead horse. Maybe HuskeyNan can pin a mulkey scheduling thread at the top of the page so people can get their complaints out every year with regards to her scheduling instead of it being posted over and over all over the place

Per your thread suggestion, let's treat it likeFestivus. Once LSU's non-conference is announced, we vent for a day or two and then lock the thread down for another season.
 
How is she not promoting the sport? When she plays those so-called less skilled programs, she is helping those schools with a little exposure and much needed cash for their programs. Those schools, especially the HBCUs on the men's side of basketball and I am sure on the women's side, would welcome the chance to get an invite to play LSU. Or once the schedule is finalized and coaches see that they have a program like LSU on their schedule, this could help with recruiting. Like I said before, Coach Mulkey is helping to grow the game of basketball in her way and the growth of the game is in good hands.
Exactly! Kim has said............on NUMEROUS OCCASIONS that part of the reason she came back to LSU was to not only help LSU regain it's previous glory, but to also help GROW THE GAME in the state of Louisiana. To all you bellyachers, let her do it HER WAY. It is successful.............The coaches of McNeese, ULL, MVSU, and Coppin State have ALL expressed their gratitude to coach Mulkey for giving them the opportunity to expose their kids to high level competition AND attention to their programs. What other P5 teams have scheduled away games AT an HBCU this season? I guess it's only growing the game if Dawn plays an HBCU and blows them out by 80, right?
 
Exactly! Kim has said............on NUMEROUS OCCASIONS that part of the reason she came back to LSU was to not only help LSU regain it's previous glory, but to also help GROW THE GAME in the state of Louisiana. To all you bellyachers, let her do it HER WAY. It is successful.............The coaches of McNeese, ULL, MVSU, and Coppin State have ALL expressed their gratitude to coach Mulkey for giving them the opportunity to expose their kids to high level competition AND attention to their programs. What other P5 teams have scheduled away games AT an HBCU this season? I guess it's only growing the game if Dawn plays an HBCU and blows them out by 80, right?
Every top team plays a couple lower level teams; LSU has 10 cupcakes in it’s first 14 games and only 2 on the road and of the two road games, one was two hours from the LSU campus. Here’s South Carolina:

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Every top team plays a couple lower level teams; LSU has 10 cupcakes in it’s first 14 games and only 2 on the road and of the two road games, one was two hours from the LSU campus. Here’s South Carolina:

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..............................and that's great for South Carolina. However, that has NOTHING to do with LSU's scheduling, nor their likelihood of making the final four or winning the NCAA tournament again this season. In fact, I don't think SC's schedule will result in much in comparison to LSU, when January 25th comes around. LSU will still more than likely win that game. With that being said, Dawn is scheduling similar teams, but also sprinkling in some top ten matchups. That's great! But, that is not Kim's way, and there's nothing wrong with that...........................................................although there appears to be so many who have psychological discomfort with it.:D
 
Exactly! Kim has said............on NUMEROUS OCCASIONS that part of the reason she came back to LSU was to not only help LSU regain it's previous glory, but to also help GROW THE GAME in the state of Louisiana. To all you bellyachers, let her do it HER WAY. It is successful.............The coaches of McNeese, ULL, MVSU, and Coppin State have ALL expressed their gratitude to coach Mulkey for giving them the opportunity to expose their kids to high level competition AND attention to their programs. What other P5 teams have scheduled away games AT an HBCU this season? I guess it's only growing the game if Dawn plays an HBCU and blows them out by 80, right?

I would consider the matchups vs Maryland, Notre Dame, UConn, Utah, UNC, Duke, maybe SD State more in that category. It was someone lighter schedule than usual but then we had Stanford back out and rescheduled UCLA, which would have been a hell of a non-con game. Oh well.

The pure buy games are neither here nor there for me. Dawn often will do someone a favor or maybe play one on the road here and there.

Winning by 80 can be entertaining, but I sure don't want 11 of them as a fan.
 
I just don’t see how you can build a fanbase when you feed them only cupcakes. Sure, everybody schedules SOME patsies but why would I want to watch the loaded LSU lineup against the 300th ranked team.

Of course scheduling is a two way street. I don’t know how many coaches of top ten-ish teams wanted to play LSU this year. Plus, Kim is not very well liked by other coaches.
You are not new to WCBB so I am surprised by your naive post here. VERY few coaches schedule good (let alone “strong”) OOC games.They view the sole goal of the OOC to get the team ready for conference play, heck, @JellyBean just posted how impressed they were with Minn at 10-1. Most fans and many Athletic Directors seem to be clueless on the scheduling of bad OOC games to merely pad the wins, put together a sham resume for the NCAAT bid.
i defy you to name 10 coaches of the 351 D1 schools who try to play a good OOC? Heck, I doubt you could give me 5 as a year-in, year-out effort.
 
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You are not new to WCBB so I am surprised by your naive post here. VERY few coaches schedule good (let alone “strong”) OOC games.They view the sole goal of the OOC to get the team ready for conference play, heck, @JellyBean just posted how impressed they were with Minn at 10-1. Most fans and many Athletic Directors seem to be clueless on the scheduling of bad OOC games to merely pad the wins, put together a sham resume for the NCAAT bid.
i defy you to name 10 coaches of the 351 D1 schools who try to play a good OOC? Heck, I doubt you could give me 5 as a year-in, year-out effort.
Mulkey does it because she knows she needs all the help she can get. If she were to schedule a legit OOC like SC/Stanford/ND/UCONN etc her record would be near .500 if not worse, hence she schedules the way she does. Only out talents opponents, hence her historic underachievement as a post season coach.
 
You are not new to WCBB so I am surprised by your naive post here. VERY few coaches schedule good (let alone “strong”) OOC games.They view the sole goal of the OOC to get the team ready for conference play, heck, @JellyBean just posted how impressed they were with Minn at 10-1. Most fans and many Athletic Directors seem to be clueless on the scheduling of bad OOC games to merely pad the wins, put together a sham resume for the NCAAT bid.
i defy you to name 10 coaches of the 351 D1 schools who try to play a good OOC? Heck, I doubt you could give me 5 as a year-in, year-out effort.
It was Christmas Eve when I posted, trying to spread Peace on Earth and Joy to Mankind, Don’t worry, I’ll be cursing Kim by New Year’s Day
 
For me, it's just a selfish wish to see her match up against a few more ranked teams before tournament time. If the SEC conference was a tad tougher, maybe I'd relent a bit but with how the conference is performing as a whole, that's not the case. As a WBB fan it would be nice seeing how her teams could match up potentially as it's not a given that you'll get that top tier match up during the tournament.
 
You are not new to WCBB so I am surprised by your naive post here. VERY few coaches schedule good (let alone “strong”) OOC games.They view the sole goal of the OOC to get the team ready for conference play, heck, @JellyBean just posted how impressed they were with Minn at 10-1. Most fans and many Athletic Directors seem to be clueless on the scheduling of bad OOC games to merely pad the wins, put together a sham resume for the NCAAT bid.
i defy you to name 10 coaches of the 351 D1 schools who try to play a good OOC? Heck, I doubt you could give me 5 as a year-in, year-out effort.
Your name ten coaches question is as insulting as your attitude. Look at the top SOS list from Massey and your answer will fall out.

Just because Mulkey is too lazy or afraid to play a strong oos doesn't mean it's good for the game. Nor is it good for her team to bench players and drive some to transfer because of her personality and then pretend everything is kept "in the locker room". I despise her in game tantrums, getting a double technical while up 60?, screaming and tossing things over calls. When she grows up maybe she'll be a good coach but her fans insulting and demeaning other posters is never acceptable.

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LSU will be a 3 or 4 seed in March because of their weak schedule and the SEC being average this year.
IMO they won't be top 4 because while I expect them to be in the top half of the SEC standings, I think 2 other SEC teams (in addition to SC) will finish above LSU. Its a much weaker team than last year with less size, less perimeter shooting, less speed, there isn't anything they did to improve their roster or depth.

I see LSU as a 5-6 seed when the dust settles.
 
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You are not new to WCBB so I am surprised by your naive post here. VERY few coaches schedule good (let alone “strong”) OOC games.They view the sole goal of the OOC to get the team ready for conference play, heck, @JellyBean just posted how impressed they were with Minn at 10-1. Most fans and many Athletic Directors seem to be clueless on the scheduling of bad OOC games to merely pad the wins, put together a sham resume for the NCAAT bid.
i defy you to name 10 coaches of the 351 D1 schools who try to play a good OOC? Heck, I doubt you could give me 5 as a year-in, year-out effort.
Dawn. Geno. Cori. Tara. Brenda. Jeff. Kevin. Lisa. Aaron. Pat/Holly/Kelly. Year after year after year. What's my booby prize?
 
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I’ve been an avid fan of the Boneyard for years and I enjoy reading all of the commentary on Women’s Basketball. As I’ve read most of your posts, I have to say you are literally the WORST LSU fan in the history of sports. You post some of the most negative, mind boggling statements concerning LSU and Coach Mulkey. I really hope you are a troll and not a real fan. I’ve been a Mulkey supporter since her LA Tech days and I live in Louisiana and we are thrilled that she came back home. I’ve met her several times and she is nothing like her “media persona”. If you were as well connected as you say, you would know this. So please, keep your negativity and hate to yourself and stop giving the haters more venom.

#Forever LSU
 
@SECbbfan24
I’ve been an avid fan of the Boneyard for years and I enjoy reading all of the commentary on Women’s Basketball. As I’ve read most of your posts, I have to say you are literally the WORST LSU fan in the history of sports. You post some of the most negative, mind boggling statements concerning LSU and Coach Mulkey. I really hope you are a troll and not a real fan. I’ve been a Mulkey supporter since her LA Tech days and I live in Louisiana and we are thrilled that she came back home. I’ve met her several times and she is nothing like her “media persona”. If you were as well connected as you say, you would know this. So please, keep your negativity and hate to yourself and stop giving the haters more venom.

#Forever LSU
Thank you! I've been getting troll vibes because 99% of what they say is just waaaay over the top.
 
Looks like the 2024 class is a bust for LSU. Back to the portal….As for their tournament seeding this season, it all depends on how they do against SC at home in January and also how they perform in the conference tournament. The SEC is indeed looking down this year, so I suspect LSU will run through their conference schedule easily enough outside of the SC matchup, where they will likely be favored due to it being a home game. Critical game for LSU, not so much for SC. They should meet again the SEC tournament on a neutral court which will be a vital game for both teams for seeding purposes.

SC is deeper than LSU this year, but LSU’s top 4 players can match up with most any team and they will be favored in every conference game this year with the possible exception of that SC matchup which is hard to determine at this point in time.

I give SC a sizable advantage in the backcourt over LSU and obviously at center, but with Morrow and Williams at the 3 and 4 slots they might have the edge at those positions, though Kitts, Watkins, Hall and Feagin might be too much depth for LSU to guard without getting in foul trouble. Reese will likely struggle some against Cardoso as has been the case in past matchups. KM will probably try DelRosario out against Cardoso to move AR to the 4 for a stretch. That would move Morrow to the 3 where I think she is less effective. I would not bet against SC winning in BR, but that will be one hostile environment on game night. Oh, and what in the world will Mulkey come up with for an outrageous outfit for that prime time game? An Elvis suit perhaps?
 
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