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8893 said:
Hire Flores
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Was curious who Giants fans wanted. Also, any good GM candidates? I think the most important thing is that the GM and HC share a vision of what they want.
 
HuskyHawk said:
Was curious who Giants fans wanted. Also, any good GM candidates? I think the most important thing is that the GM and HC share a vision of what they want.
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Monti Ossenfort would be my top choice, but he'll have his pick of jobs so no idea how realistic it is. Joe Schoen from Buffalo is probably a close 2nd, since he'd likely bring Daboll with him as HC
 
If your goal is to bring better talent into the organization, there are worse choices than John Dorsey.
 
What about Byron Leftwich?

I’m probably biased towards him as I remember him as a player and I’m not that knowledgeable about the merits of the other candidates.

What’s exciting about him is I like the offense in Tampa, and he seems like a smart, calm and personable guy.
 
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mauconnfan said:
Gettleman out, Judge and his staff out. Kitchens is much worst than Garrett I don’t know what this genius is thinking he’s dreadful. Defensively they were showing promise last half of ‘20 but somehow they’ve gone backwards. I mean if the other team got the ball back with 2-3 minutes left in the first half it was 90% guaranteed they were punching it in. That’s a bad pattern for a coach.

Let the new GM bring his guy and his staff in. Daniel Jones I think is fine get him a line and an OC I’d be happy. Pass rusher please? Gettleman never addressed this or a solid linebacking crew. I will say Carter and a couple others show some promise and they lost their best Martinez to injury.

They have a chance to get better in the draft bring someone in who can be sure that happens. And please know now, not later, Judge is NOT the answer!
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I am a Jones fan, for now. He is improving with the turnovers. Danny is running for his life because of the OL. Has everyone forgot Manning was running for his life? Improve the line. I remember the Giants years past. Once the Offense scored points the defense went crazy. The defense is playing a lot of minutes.

Danny can score himself. Get short yardage first downs. The kid can throw. If your being chased by 4 defenders and get clobbered, well nothing much you can do. He was getting beat up before he can get set for a pass. Giants need a offensive play caller.
 
Hankster said:
I am a Jones fan, for now. He is improving with the turnovers. Danny is running for his life because of the OL. Has everyone forgot Manning was running for his life? Improve the line. I remember the Giants years past. Once the Offense scored points the defense went crazy. The defense is playing a lot of minutes.

Danny can score himself. Get short yardage first downs. The kid can throw. If your being chased by 4 defenders and get clobbered, well nothing much you can do. He was getting beat up before he can get set for a pass. Giants need a offensive play caller.
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I think they’d be dumb to waste a 1st round pick on a QB. Might not be dumb to grab one later, say 4th. Jones is good enough if you upgrade the team around him.
 
I am in the Jones gets another year camp, plus the QB draft is not so hot. Besides the O line though he needs a TE. Time to cut Engram loose. I also am not sold on any of the WRs.
 
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I originally wanted Flores but it occurred to me that someone in Schoen's position has likely heard a lot of behind the scenes stuff that happened with him. Its still shocking he was out there to begin with, so it does make you wonder.

Daboll has done a great job in Buffalo, and it wasn't the offense's fault that they fell short of a Super Bowl this year. Now start working on the coaching staff.
 
Not sure how much is the OC and how much is Josh Allen there. Don’t forget. Adam Gase coached Peyton Manning to a great year.
 
Deepster said:
Not sure how much is the OC and how much is Josh Allen there. Don’t forget. Adam Gase coached Peyton Manning to a great year.
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I’m a Bills fan. I honestly have no idea how well he’ll do as a HC. Bills spent 75% of his time here complaining that he isn’t good enough. However, he allegedly was very instrumental in developing Allen.

If he can help Jones take a big step forward, I think the rest of the offensive concerns don’t matter as much. But he obviously isn’t the OC for the Giants so it’ll be fun to watch how he does managing everything. I’m definitely rooting for him.
 
lavuuk153 said:
I’m a Bills fan. I honestly have no idea how well he’ll do as a HC. Bills spent 75% of his time here complaining that he isn’t good enough. However, he allegedly was very instrumental in developing Allen.

If he can help Jones take a big step forward, I think the rest of the offensive concerns don’t matter as much. But he obviously isn’t the OC for the Giants so it’ll be fun to watch how he does managing everything. I’m definitely rooting for him.
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Fair point. To counter my original post, the Jets passed over Allen and had Josh Rosen ahead of him on their draft board. Maybe he was the one that helped flip the switch in Allen.
 
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Deepster said:
Fair point. To counter my original post, the Jets passed over Allen and had Josh Rosen ahead of him on their draft board. Maybe he was the one that helped flip the switch in Allen.
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Using the Jets draft insight of the prior GM probably doesn’t help your argument.
 
lavuuk153 said:
I’m a Bills fan. I honestly have no idea how well he’ll do as a HC. Bills spent 75% of his time here complaining that he isn’t good enough. However, he allegedly was very instrumental in developing Allen.

If he can help Jones take a big step forward, I think the rest of the offensive concerns don’t matter as much. But he obviously isn’t the OC for the Giants so it’ll be fun to watch how he does managing everything. I’m definitely rooting for him.
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Sounds like Dorsey is coming with him. The hope is they can develop Jones, obviously won’t turn him into Allen, but keeping him consistent and putting him a position to succeed is all we can ask for right now.

I do know players love Daboll, both in New England and Buffalo, who knows if he will be great or awful but getting the syngergy with schoen is a huge thing and something the Giants have lacked for a very long time.
 
HeGotGame said:
Sounds like Dorsey is coming with him. The hope is they can develop Jones, obviously won’t turn him into Allen, but keeping him consistent and putting him a position to succeed is all we can ask for right now.

I do know players love Daboll, both in New England and Buffalo, who knows if he will be great or awful but getting the syngergy with schoen is a huge thing and something the Giants have lacked for a very long time.
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Is Dorsey coming? I'd love that and hope it happens but thought I read he was gonna replace Daboll as OC in Buffalo
 
HeGotGame said:
Sounds like Dorsey is coming with him. The hope is they can develop Jones, obviously won’t turn him into Allen, but keeping him consistent and putting him a position to succeed is all we can ask for right now.

I do know players love Daboll, both in New England and Buffalo, who knows if he will be great or awful but getting the syngergy with schoen is a huge thing and something the Giants have lacked for a very long time.
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Turning Jones into Ryan Tannehill is more realistic.
 
navery12 said:
Is Dorsey coming? I'd love that and hope it happens but thought I read he was gonna replace Daboll as OC in Buffalo
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Nothing confirmed but reports are it’s likely to be Dorsey as OC and Wink as DC.
 
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HeGotGame said:
Stick to your sweet simulations.
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How is turning Jones into Ryan Tannehill with an oline and offensive weapons around him a bad thing it’s not as if we’re a qb away from being a super bowl team like the Titans.

How was my comparison with Tannehill remotely trolling. Your stick to your simulations response is pathetic and lazy, it means you can’t engage in a conversation this is a message board btw.
 
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Scoe said:
How is turning Jones into Ryan Tannehill with an oline and offensive weapons around him a bad thing it’s not as if we’re a qb away from being a super bowl team like the Titans.

How was my comparison with Tannehill remotely trolling. Your stick to your simulations response is pathetic and lazy, it means you can’t engage in a conversation this is a message board btw.
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Ryan Tannehill stinks. Jones is a better talent than him by a mile. Tannehill had one good year, if you look at his epas and other advance metrics he’s a bad quarterback. It’s like saying you hope he can be turned into Jalen Hurts.
 
HeGotGame said:
Ryan Tannehill stinks. Jones is a better talent than him by a mile. Tannehill had one good year, if you look at his epas and other advance metrics he’s a bad quarterback. It’s like saying you hope he can be turned into Jalen Hurts.
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I’m not hoping he’s Tannehill saying put Jones in position to succeed and then see where he’s at. He is more talented with similar mobility as Tannehill, not expecting Jones to be Josh Allen so what exactly are you expecting.
 
There was tons of speculation that Trubisky would follow Daboll when he signed that cheap deal last off-season. I can’t imagine bringing him on if they are high on Jones.
 
lavuuk153 said:
There was tons of speculation that Trubisky would follow Daboll when he signed that cheap deal last off-season. I can’t imagine bringing him on if they are high on Jones.
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I’d love to bring tribusky in as a back up. Jones hasn’t proven he can play 17 games and it’s a chance for Tribusky to potentially get some playing time to hopefully get another chance somewhere.
 
Scoe said:
I’m not hoping he’s Tannehill saying put Jones in position to succeed and then see where he’s at. He is more talented with similar mobility as Tannehill, not expecting Jones to be Josh Allen so what exactly are you expecting.
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As I said, not Josh Allen, but I’m not hoping he develops into Ryan Tannehill, he has a much higher ceiling than that.
 
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