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nelsonmuntz said:
The media covering for Trev Alberts making an absolutely idiotic decision to not wait until after the Indiana game to save $7.5 million.
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pepband99 said:
You don't think he simply went to a list of known donors and asked for the cash, in the hopes of getting top candidate first? This was probably hours of work, no more.
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More likely the donors marched into his office Saturday night and handed him the checks to get it done.
 
nelsonmuntz said:
I bet every Nebraska student that has to drop out because they can’t afford college appreciates this sentiment.
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Frost is a legacy. If it were someone else maybe they do the logical and wait til after 10/1
 
UConnJim said:
Frost recruited McKenzie Milton when he was hired by UCF and he became the starter during the 2016 season. On the 2017 team, he recruited the QB, top 3 rushers (includes Milton), and some of the top receivers.

Personally, I think Frost had better athletes at UCF than he had at Nebraska even though the recruiting rankings are higher at Nebraska. Since 2018, UCF has had 12 NFL draft picks (10 non-linemen) and Nebraska has had 8 NFL draft picks (3 non-linemen). For whatever reason, he could not get it done at Nebraska, but most of his losses were close losses. He will be college head coach again, maybe at UCF as they tire of Gus Malzahn.
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Thanks for the clarification. I couldn't remember when he first got hired there. I personally think Nebraska is actually a tougher job than UCF at this point in time - I think the ceiling for nebraska is 8-9 wins - regardless of who the coach is, I don't see how they can compete with the big boys in the B1G
 
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I wanted Frost when we hired Diaco. He might not have come here as he was a hot assistant at Oregon at the time.

Nebraska never seemed like a good fit for Frost. I know it's his alma mater but they were no place for an offensive genius type.
 
Palatine said:
I wanted Frost when we hired Diaco. He might not have come here as he was a hot assistant at Oregon at the time.

Nebraska never seemed like a good fit for Frost. I know it's his alma mater but they were no place for an offensive genius type.
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Dave Clawson.
 
If there is a more absurd place to coach than Nebraska it's hard to think where it is. Osborne is gone and those days are never, ever, ever coming back to Nebraska. The next coach will also fail as will the next after that, because anything short of a NC is considered failure there........and Huskers are never going to win another NC.

....and the money paid these coaches is ridiculous! All that guaranteed money and they're essentially free agents to test the market as they please.
 
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I would love to be Urban Meyer‘s agent right now. Could you imagine the offers that are coming his way.
 
Could see Frost going to Sabans staff as some offensive analyst takes coordinator job after Bill O’Brien leaves then leaves to coach an AAC team maybe he just goes back to UCF.
 
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huskymedic said:
Nebraska boosters… “WHO”?

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Well he was AP Coach of the Year.

"Chadwell is the first Sun Belt Conference coach to win the AP award, which was established in 1988, and the third coach to earn it with a team from outside the Power Five leagues. UCF’s Scott Frost was AP coach of the year in 2017 and Gary Patterson won the first of his two AP awards with TCU in 2009 when the Horned Frogs were competing in the Mountain West."

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Anderson County native Jamey Chadwell named AP coach of the year

Chadwell is the first Sun Belt Conference coach to win the AP award.
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Scoe said:
Could see Frost going to Sabans staff as some offensive analyst takes coordinator job after Bill O’Brien leaves then leaves to coach an AAC team maybe he just goes back to UCF.
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With UCF moving to the Big 12, I doubt they're going to let Malzhan go unless he's an absolute train wreck there. But his only crime at Auburn was not being as good as Alabama. Granted that's a mortal sin in Alabama, but his Auburn teams were still always very good.
 
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So funny reading the reactions to the Frost firing from people who aren’t close to the situation. $7.5M is NOTHING to DONU. About to launch our fourth donor led collective- existing ones all are well resourced including ABM which was led by one of Frost’s old friends (and former Husker Athletics employee) and has raised $5M in just over the last year alone for direct NIL payments

NU shouldn’t have fired Bo Pelini? Both sides were about to kill one another. NU athletics administration hated Bo and Bo didn’t want to work for them anymore. NU regularly lost games by 30+ points multiple times per year despite having the talent to win those games. Remember the 2012 Big Ten title game v 7-5 Wisconsin? Bo also pissed off numerous donors and was caught ON TAPE blasting the NU fanbase. It was toxic and both parties were ready to move on.

Frost was a lazy coach who tried to bring back the 1990s. Built the roster to 150 guys, mirrored old 90s nutrition (Coach Ellis still there) with a terrible S&C program and constantly compared things to the “old days”. Scott got himself fired because he couldn’t keep the talent he got on campus and ran a circus behind the scenes.

NU is in a great position to land a good coach this cycle and I greatly appreciate Trevs comments about not living in the past and think he has a good mindset/approach moving forward. Nebraska is a good job with great resources and tradition in one of the two leagues that matter. I’m excited to see who winds up in Lincoln
 
Drew said:
NU is in a great position to land a good coach this cycle and I greatly appreciate Trevs comments about not living in the past and think he has a good mindset/approach moving forward. Nebraska is a good job with great resources and tradition in one of the two leagues that matter. I’m excited to see who winds up in Lincoln
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They have the resources and tradition but that's all it will be, tradition and history. They were able to be successful because they were in the Big 12 and whatever it was before then. They were able to recruit the heck out of Texas. Now they're an also ran in one of the two major conferences, which is a heck of a place to be!! Once USC and UCLA join, they'll just be another program with tradition. I just don't see them returning to the glory days that their fans and boosters expect them to get to.
 
Nebraska and Tennessee are similar programs. Great fan support, deep pocketed boosters, and recent history of being near the top of the sport. They have decks stacked against them going into future years however.
 
Drew said:
So funny reading the reactions to the Frost firing from people who aren’t close to the situation. $7.5M is NOTHING to DONU. About to launch our fourth donor led collective- existing ones all are well resourced including ABM which was led by one of Frost’s old friends (and former Husker Athletics employee) and has raised $5M in just over the last year alone for direct NIL payments

NU shouldn’t have fired Bo Pelini? Both sides were about to kill one another. NU athletics administration hated Bo and Bo didn’t want to work for them anymore. NU regularly lost games by 30+ points multiple times per year despite having the talent to win those games. Remember the 2012 Big Ten title game v 7-5 Wisconsin? Bo also pissed off numerous donors and was caught ON TAPE blasting the NU fanbase. It was toxic and both parties were ready to move on.

Frost was a lazy coach who tried to bring back the 1990s. Built the roster to 150 guys, mirrored old 90s nutrition (Coach Ellis still there) with a terrible S&C program and constantly compared things to the “old days”. Scott got himself fired because he couldn’t keep the talent he got on campus and ran a circus behind the scenes.

NU is in a great position to land a good coach this cycle and I greatly appreciate Trevs comments about not living in the past and think he has a good mindset/approach moving forward. Nebraska is a good job with great resources and tradition in one of the two leagues that matter. I’m excited to see who winds up in Lincoln
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So why was Frost so successful at UCF? Was he lazy and lacked S&C capability then? Did he struggle to keep players on campus?

I get that Nebraska is different than UCF...but is it possible that Nebraska may be part of the problem? Or is it all Frost?
 
UCFBfan said:
They have the resources and tradition but that's all it will be, tradition and history. They were able to be successful because they were in the Big 12 and whatever it was before then. They were able to recruit the heck out of Texas. Now they're an also ran in one of the two major conferences, which is a heck of a place to be!! Once USC and UCLA join, they'll just be another program with tradition. I just don't see them returning to the glory days that their fans and boosters expect them to get to.
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Absolutely nobody who is a fan of Nebraska expects 1995 to happen ever again. But Nebraska has many more resources and advantages than the other programs in its immediate surrounding areas. There isn’t a single systemic advantage that programs like Illinois, NW, Wisconsin, Iowa, etc have over NU and DEFINITELY not KSU, ISU, etc and all of those teams have been better than NU recently.

There is no reason NU can’t field a top 25 level team going forward. They have the resources (financial and facilities), institutional support, and recruits at a top 25 level even under Frost when they were losing (sans last year when he gave up on HS kids to go all in on the portal to save his job and only took like 14 kids from HS). Just need a coach with a good plan and focus on development to get bring it all together
 
ShakyTheMohel said:
So why was Frost so successful at UCF? Was he lazy and lacked S&C capability then? Did he struggle to keep players on campus?

I get that Nebraska is different than UCF...but is it possible that Nebraska may be part of the problem? Or is it all Frost?
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They’re completely different jobs with completely different situations and surrounding circumstances

You can (pretty easily) make the case that the situation Scott walked into at UCF was much better setup for immediate success than at NU. 2 Years removed from a BCS bowl and had double digit NFL players on the roster at the time he arrived. Scott also defied the odds winning ALL of his one score games in 2017 including insane finishes against USF and Memphis in back to back weeks.

Nebraska was part of the problem in the sense that Bill Moos his AD essentially went MIA once he hired him and moved back to his Montana ranch to essentially ride out his contract and retire. Frost had no direct boss in person overseeing the Day to Day activities and as a result was on his own to navigate being a HC at a major program for the first time.

But Scott did himself ZERO favors bringing his entire staff from UCF (they were absolutely not a Big Ten caliber staff as a whole), he was too hesitant to move off Adrian Martinez (could’ve had Joe Burrow and infamously said “is he better than what we got?”), replaced Troy Walters at OC with a guy who was literally working in financial services at the time, among many other poor choices. On top of it all, there’s been plenty of rumors that have popped up over the last five years about his time spent on activities outside of football and his general lack of understanding of what it takes to run a successful program in a league like the Big Ten (infamous “we want the Big Ten to adjust to us” quote in his opening presser).

I actually think Scott can still be a good coach at a non B1G or SEC school, G5 school or a school like UConn where the spotlight is lower, program requirements are less, etc. But Scott shockingly never figured out what it would take to run a successful high end Big Ten program and was far too slow to react when there were glaring weaknesses that needed fixed from the get go (Special Teams comes to mind). Nebraska has challenges like 99% of FBS teams do but Scott was fired because of his own decisions (or lack thereof).
 
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