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So, after two weeks, the lineup is:

1. SCar at Stanford (ABC) 727,000

2. Cal vs Notre Dame (NBC) 542,000 (St Louis)

3. NC State at UConn (FS1) 358,000

4. Texas at UConn ( FS1) 236,000

5. Indiana at Tennessee (210,000)

6. SCar at Maryland (193,000)

7. Tennessee at tOSU (100,000)

The numbers for Cal at Notre Dame are really impressive considering that Cal is/was unranked. It was even a neutral cite game. The power of the Notre Dame brand? The power of Big Three airway network? Did people in California tune in because it was on network TV as opposed to the PACN?

Fwiw, Stanford had a rare over capacity crowd at Maples. I hope they can keep fan excitement up! Their program deserves fan support.
 
visitingcock said:
So, after two weeks, the lineup is:

1. SCar at Stanford (ABC) 727,000

2. Cal vs Notre Dame (NBC) 542,000 (St Louis)

3. NC State at UConn (FS1) 358,000

4. Texas at UConn ( FS1) 236,000

5. Indiana at Tennessee (210,000)

6. SCar at Maryland (193,000)

7. Tennessee at tOSU (100,000)

The numbers for Cal at Notre Dame are really impressive considering that Cal is/was unranked. It was even a neutral cite game. The power of the Notre Dame brand? The power of Big Three airway network? Did people in California tune in because it was on network TV as opposed to the PACN?

Fwiw, Stanford had a rare over capacity crowd at Maples. I hope they can keep fan excitement up! Their program deserves fan support.
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What were the platforms for numbers 5,6 and 7?
 
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11/24 UNC-Oregon ESPNU Not Top 150
11/24 Iowa State-Michigan State ESPNU Not Top 150
11/25 DePaul-Maryland FS2 Not Top 150
11/25 DePaul-Maryland FS1 112,000
11/25 UConn-Duke ESPN2 222,000

FOX chose a very weird way of broadcasting that DePaul-Maryland game.

MSGRET said:
Since when is ABC an ESPN platform, isn't it the other way around where ESPN is an ABC platform?
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Neither is really particularly right. They have slightly different ownership as Hearst owns a portion of the ESPN unit, but not any of ABC. It was almost certainly completely the work of employees of ESPN to get that broadcast created. There has been a history of friction between the management groups of each unit as ESPN does not like having highly-viewed events moved away from it while ABC does not like how ESPN gets allocated some of the revenue from broadcasts like this. There is a whole field of accounting that tries to get units on board with whatever benefits the whole company the most, but the human element always gets in the way.
 
11/27 UConn-Iowa ABC 597,000
11/27 Oregon-Michigan State ESPN2 Not Top 150
11/27 UNC-Iowa State ESPN2 141,000
11/27 Duke-Oregon State ESPN2 Not Top 150
 
1. SCar at Stanford (ABC) 727,000
2. UConn-Iowa (ABC) 597,000
3. Cal vs Notre Dame (NBC) 542,000 (St Louis)
4. NC State at UConn (FS1) 358,000
5. Texas at UConn ( FS1) 236,000
6. Indiana at Tennessee (ESPN2) (210,000)
7. SCar at Maryland (espn)) (193,000)
8. UNC-Iowa State (ESPN2) 141,000
9. Tennessee at tOSU (B10N) (100,000)

TB12 said:
So 3 out of the top seven are Husky games?
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Yes. I expect UConn to dominate the TV eyeballs this year. Last year, SCar gave UConn some competition, but I expect it wont even be worth comparing this year because SCar has so many fewer big names on their schedule.

Here's what last season looked like after the tournament games:

  • Tennessee-SCar ABC 876,000--------------preceded by Gameday
  • UConn-UCLA (ABC) 839,000
  • Tenn at UConn (Fox) 694,000
  • Tennessee-UConn FOX 658,00
  • UConn-Marquette FOX 525,000
  • Kentucky-SCar ESPN 520,000----------SEC Tourney
  • SCar - NCState (ESPN) 506,000---------Opening Night of the season
  • Indiana-Iowa ESPN2 493,000------------Big Ten Tourney
  • SCar - UConn (ESPN) 489,000-----------Noon on a Monday
  • Miami-North Carolina State ESPN 466,000-ACC Tourney
  • Notre Dame-Louisville ESPN 460,000
  • Ole Miss-SCar (ESPN) 405,000------halftime reveal
  • 2/10 SCar Kentucky ESPN 402,000
  • Stanford - Tenn (ESPN2) 365,000
  • Louisville- NC State (ESPN) 364,000
  • Utah-Stanford ESPN2 339,000-PAC Tourney
  • Stanford -SCar (ESPN2) 314,000
  • Kentucky - SCar (ESPN) 294,000
  • Nebraska-Iowa Big Ten Network 286,000 Big10 Tourney
  • Louisville -UConn (ESPN) 281,000
  • Kentucky- Louisville (ESPN) 280,000
  • Michigan v Louisville (ESPN) 280,000
  • Villanova-UConn FS1 277,000-BE Tourney
  • Texas - Baylor ( ESPN 2 ) 258,000
  • Iowa-Michigan ESPN2 257,000-B-10 Tourney
  • Baylor - Michigan (ESPN) 242,000
  • Nebraska-Michigan BTN 238,000--B-10 Tourney
  • Maryland - SCar (ESPN) 235,000
  • Texas - Tenn (ESPN) 232,000
  • Duke - Louisville (ESPN) 224,000
  • UConn -GaTech (ESPN) 222,000
  • UConn - Oregon (ESPN) 211,000
  • Marquette-UConn FS1 203,000--BE tourney
 
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Thanks to an unintentional glitch, we got these:
11/30 Syracuse-Purdue BTN 20,000
11/30 Wake Forest-Minnesota BTN 37,000
 
12/1 UNC-Indiana BTN Not Top 150
12/1 Maryland-Notre Dame ESPN2 201,000
12/1 Georgia Tech-Michigan State BTN Not Top 150
12/1 North Carolina State-Iowa ESPN2 257,000
 
awhom111 said:
12/1 UNC-Indiana BTN Not Top 150
12/1 Maryland-Notre Dame ESPN2 201,000
12/1 Georgia Tech-Michigan State BTN Not Top 150
12/1 North Carolina State-Iowa ESPN2 257,000
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I notice that your last couple of updates do not include viewers for UCLA at SCar on 11/29 on the SEC network. I assume it was not top 150 for that day. Is that correct?
 
KnightBridgeAZ said:
I don't think very many if any.

Its all streaming these days, and you can catch the top programs on ESPN+, BTN+, SECN+, ACCN+, B12/ESPN+, and etc.

I doubt most conference media contracts allow a lot of individual coverage. A few I am remotely aware of:

  • Texas broadcasts their home games on Longhorn Network if they are not on a national broadcast.
  • Oklahoma has had a TV package with what used to be Fox Sports Oklahoma, don't know if they still do with the current company
  • New Mexico State has had packages on "Aggie-Vision" with some TV coverage on what used to be FSAZ, among other stations.

The thing is, as @Kaizen mentioned above, this is the preferred mode for many. Plus, in many cases (so far as I know) you don't have to watch it live.

Apart from anything else, UConn has a national interest and following (similar to (yuck) ND football) that merits the coverage.
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I noticed that BallySports have started to broadcast ACC games that are streamed on ACCNX. Does that count as local?
 
MSGRET said:
Since when is ABC an ESPN platform, isn't it the other way around where ESPN is an ABC platform?
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Not really anymore. ABC was the majority owner (actually CapCity) of ESPN until Disney bought ABC in 1996. Since ESPN does much more with live sports, they’ve been taking over ABC broadcasts for a while. ABC is basically the non-live (taped) station for Disney.
 
cancontent said:
I noticed that BallySports have started to broadcast ACC games that are streamed on ACCNX. Does that count as local?
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Yes, I watched the Rutgers vs. BC game in the Big Ten / ACC Challenge on NESN; the ACC continues to have a limited presence on Regional Sports Networks (RSN) as they list them.

Years ago, it was the coverage on Regional stations (basically, the old Fox network, now largely Bally Sports) that caused us to go with DirecTV as so much Women's Basketball was on those stations that DirecTV carries. With time, it is more-so the NFL Sunday Ticket that has become important. And we have Sling to get the PAC network.
 
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12/3 Penn State-Minnesota BTN Not Top 150
12/4 Ohio State-Rutgers BTN Not Top 150
12/4 Virginia Tech-Tennessee ESPN2 84,000
12/4 Connecticut-Notre Dame ABC 585,000
12/4 Xavier-Georgetown FS1 102,000
12/5 Purdue-Michigan State BTN Not Top 150

visitingcock said:
I notice that your last couple of updates do not include viewers for UCLA at SCar on 11/29 on the SEC network. I assume it was not top 150 for that day. Is that correct?
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ESPN does not pay for the SEC Network, ACC Network, or Longhorn Network to be rated nationally so they will not appear on this list at all unless ESPN does a special order. That is part of why I started listing out Not Top 150 this season so that people know which games just are not going to show up at all.
 
KnightBridgeAZ said:
Yes, I watched the Rutgers vs. BC game in the Big Ten / ACC Challenge on NESN; the ACC continues to have a limited presence on Regional Sports Networks (RSN) as they list them.

Years ago, it was the coverage on Regional stations (basically, the old Fox network, now largely Bally Sports) that caused us to go with DirecTV as so much Women's Basketball was on those stations that DirecTV carries. With time, it is more-so the NFL Sunday Ticket that has become important. And we have Sling to get the PAC network.
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Thanks. The concept of local channels providing local contact is getting rarer and rarer in Canada it seems. You wouldn't see games like these on TV for USports, which is the Canadian version of the NCAA.
 
12/8 Maryland-Purdue Big Ten Network Not Top 150
12/10 Minnesota-Iowa Big Ten Network Not Top 150
12/11 Louisville-Kentucky ESPN 247,000
12/11 UConn-Maryland ABC 470,000
12/11 Michigan State-Ohio State Big Ten Network Not Top 150

Percentage average viewership estimates for the Louisville-Kentucky game:
18-49: .08
F18-49 .06
M18-49: .10
18-34: .05
F12-34: .04
M12-34 .06
25-54: .09
50+: .11
 
awhom111 said:
12/8 Maryland-Purdue Big Ten Network Not Top 150
12/10 Minnesota-Iowa Big Ten Network Not Top 150
12/11 Louisville-Kentucky ESPN 247,000
12/11 UConn-Maryland ABC 470,000
12/11 Michigan State-Ohio State Big Ten Network Not Top 150

Percentage average viewership estimates for the Louisville-Kentucky game:
18-49: .08
F18-49 .06
M18-49: .10
18-34: .05
F12-34: .04
M12-34 .06
25-54: .09
50+: .11
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Thanks for putting these up. If I'm reading your estimates correctly, male viewers were higher in most categories. So much for the theory "men don't watch women's sports":confused:

It will be interesting to see how Fox's numbers shake out in 2023. They have Iowa vs Michigan in January from what I recall.
 
oldhuskie said:
Out of curiosity does anybody have an idea of how many programs have all their games on at least local TV. It used to be pretty rare, but I imagine at least many of the top programs do that now.
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Yeah, very rare now. I will listen to the Golden Gophers games through other streaming services. Once in a while if I am in Northern Minnesota, I can tune in on one of the local radio stations.
 
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12/15 South Carolina-South Dakota State ESPN2 224,000

cancontent said:
Thanks for putting these up. If I'm reading your estimates correctly, male viewers were higher in most categories. So much for the theory "men don't watch women's sports":confused:

It will be interesting to see how Fox's numbers shake out in 2023. They have Iowa vs Michigan in January from what I recall.
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Yes, male viewership tends to be higher, but part of that is related to lead-in and casual viewership. The ratio of male-female viewership on Sportscenter and other non-game programming on ESPN channels is much more extreme than actual competition, regardless of sport. The gap seems to be closing in younger groups, but it's not really clear whether that is because a healthy number of young women are watching or if young men are watching less sports programming.
 
12/18 Florida State-UConn ESPN 300,000
12/18 New Orleans-Rutgers Big Ten Network Not Top 150
12/18 Tennessee-Stanford ABC 381,000
12/18 USC-Texas ESPN2 41,000
12/18 Iowa State-Villanova ESPN 84,000
12/18 Providence-St. John's FS1 52,000
12/18 Arizona-Baylor ESPN2 94,000

Percentage average viewership estimates for the y'all's game:
18-49: .07
F18-49 .05
M18-49: .09
18-34: .05
F12-34: .04
M12-34 .04
25-54: .09
50+: .17
 
12/28 Michigan-Nebraska BTN Not Top 150
12/28 Ohio State-Northwestern BTN Not Top 150
12/29 LSU-Arkansas ESPN2 101,000
12/29 Purdue-Iowa BTN Not Top 150
 
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