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Alydar said:
1961 - A Wilbur Cross player named Hicks (can't remember the first name) transferred to HIllhouse. Both schools are in New Haven. Hillhouse was the much better team that year and he led them to a state title (against NFA). The story was that someone rented an apartment for his family in the Hillhouse district. Legal or illegal, it stunk.
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Alydar said:
1961 - A Wilbur Cross player named Hicks (can't remember the first name) transferred to HIllhouse. Both schools are in New Haven. Hillhouse was the much better team that year and he led them to a state title (against NFA). The story was that someone rented an apartment for his family in the Hillhouse district. Legal or illegal, it stunk.
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When I lived in Avon our HS had a killer soccer team Our star player was a black kid from inner-city Hartford who was taken into the home of a loving white Avon family so he would "have the opportunity to get a better education" than what was available in the Frog Hollow area public schools. So...

- Did the kid actually have the opportunity to get a better education? Most definitely.

- Was that the real reason he was moved to Avon? Most definitely not.

What's right here?
 
j66kicker said:
When I lived in Avon our HS had a killer soccer team Our star player was a black kid from inner-city Hartford who was taken into the home of a loving white Avon family so he would "have the opportunity to get a better education" than what was available in the Frog Hollow area public schools. So...

- Did the kid actually have the opportunity to get a better education? Most definitely.

- Was that the real reason he was moved to Avon? Most definitely not.

What's right here?
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Seems to me the school and the young man both won.
 
CocoHusky said:
They are slightly different players. Cardosa because of her size 6'7", sturdy, at the basket mobile, true post. Gusters is more power forward than post equally mobile and a tremendous finisher at the basket that showed the ability to occasionally step out to the 3PT line. If I had to pick only one I would pick Cardosa because DeBerry is only a year behind and more capable than Gusters IMO. Both players can work think of Brown and Cox down at Baylor.
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Exactly Both. I sense a bit of split personality on this board sometimes. The board including me chides Geno for only having 3-4 options the last few years and then when he expands the number of options folks start asking which "one". Recruit both hard and see what happens. Until Deberry says yes, Geno can't and shouldn't make recruiting decisions based on her. I know we joke about Walz's recruiting and critique Geno's but I think there can be a happy middle ground, where UConn works about 8-10 players every year from all over the world and hope 3-4 say yes. Then if there is a transfer hear and there if a young woman can't handle the expectations than so be it.
 
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DEpup said:
Exactly Both. I sense a bit of split personality on this board sometimes. The board including me chides Geno for only having 3-4 options the last few years and then when he expands the number of options folks start asking which "one". Recruit both hard and see what happens. Until Deberry says yes, Geno can't and shouldn't make recruiting decisions based on her. I know we joke about Walz's recruiting and critique Geno's but I think there can be a happy middle ground, where UConn works about 8-10 players every year from all over the world and hope 3-4 say yes. Then if there is a transfer hear and there if a young woman can't handle the expectations than so be it.
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That is exactly what UCONN does every year and I don't understand why some people don't understand this. Maybe it is because of the tendency to lump everything into that one word -recruiting. Some people will read: Geno is recruiting Cardosa, and take that to mean Geno's trying to convince her to come to UCONN. You used the word "works" a more accurate word is evaluate. Don't know if the name Olivia Owens will ring a bell for anyone but Geno went to see her play in NY state a few times. Owens is currently playing at Maryland. Geno was evaluating her on those visits and the decision that he had to make is can she help UCONN. Geno has a very calibrated (but not infallible) eye for these things. Once he make that decision he may extend an offer. Keep in mind that Gusters and DeBerry have already been offered by UCONN.
You name any recruiting year (including last year which some seems to obsess over and pronounce a failure) and I can tell you the 8-10 kids that UCONN evaluated. 8-10 is not enough given where UCONN is roster wise today. If you go a few post back you can clearly see that the evaluations for the class of 2020 has been expanded to 15 which includes Cardosa. IDK what will happen with Cardosa's evaluation but I guarantee you Geno will not extend an offer without seeing her play (probably multiple times). It doesn't matter how highly ranked Cardosa is in the class or what other schools have already offered. Kylee Watson was number 1 in the class and Cameron Brink was #2 when both players made unofficial visits to the UCONN campus. Neither was offered. Anaya Peoples and River Baldwin were two other highly ranked 2020 players that made unofficial visits to UCONN without receiving offers.
 
Sluconn Husky said:
Today's Basketball Without Borders game in full.
Muhl is #15
Edwards is # 24
Cardoso is #28
Bessoir is #26
All players:
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Slu I think there may be a mix up on at least 1 number. #15 appears to be Bessoir not Muhl as you have above. Cardosa did not play and the tallest player on the floor for either team was #15. The jumpers she splashed was also a dead give away.
Wadoux the French PG is listed on the roster as #16 and I'm almost positive she was #29.
 
CocoHusky said:
Slu I think there may be a mix up on at least 1 number. #15 appears to be Bessoir not Muhl as you have above. Cardosa did not play and the tallest player on the floor for either team was #15. The jumpers she splashed was also a dead give away.
Wadoux the French PG is listed on the roster as #16 and I'm almost positive she was #29.
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The list put out seems to be off. There is a #1 that might be Muhl but no #1 listed.

Only a few minutes in and Edwards is very impressive.: a three, a block, and a runner off the bounce. Very lithe and athletic, not to mention long.
 
Sluconn Husky said:
The list put out seems to be off. There is a #1 that might be Muhl but no #1 listed.
Only a few minutes in and Edwards is very impressive.: a three, a block, and a runner off the bounce. Very lithe and athletic, not to mention long.
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I was just going to say #1 might be Muhl. #15 was the best player on the floor by a long shot, got to think that's Bessoir. Sign her up now!
 
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CocoHusky said:
I was just going to say #1 might be Muhl. #15 was the best player on the floor by a long shot, got to think that's Bessoir. Sign her up now!
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I haven't finished watching it yet, but Edwards was named MVP.
 
Sluconn Husky said:
Nika Muhl is definitely #1 in blue.
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Yea the jersey are reversible and they mixed the team up for the second half. Edwards was active but at times wild.
 
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Sluconn Husky said:
Nika Muhl is definitely #1 in blue.
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Muhl seemed to be a great ball handler and passer but she was front rimming every shot, even three free throws. Is that her reputation? Good handler and passer but no offense?
 
Scrutiner said:
Muhl seemed to be a great ball handler and passer but she was front rimming every shot, even three free throws. Is that her reputation? Good handler and passer but no offense?
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Think her shooting is a work in progress. She's had a terrible time hitting 3's in international competition, but she seemingly can score in a myriad of ways.
 
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Sluconn Husky said:
Think her shooting is a work in progress. She's had a terrible time hitting 3's in international competition, but she seemingly can score in a myriad of ways.
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interesting trade off compared to a player like Hailey Van Lith..............
 
I’m not very good with these European leagues, but it looks like her ZKK TRESNJEVKA team is playing in two leagues, WABA and Croatia - A1. Looks like WABA is much more competitive and has teams from multiple countries.

In WABA, where her team is 0-11, she averages (through 9 games) 11.1 PPG, 7.3 RPG, 6.6 APG, 5.8 T/OPG, and 3.3 SPG. She shoots 47.1% 2FG, 23.1% (3-13) 3FG, and 65.8% FT.

In the Croatian league, her team is 11-5 and she averages (through 15 games) 10.2 PPG, 7.7 RPG, 4.1 T/OPG, 6.5 APG, and 3.6 SPG. She shoots 48.9% 2FG, 15.9% (7-44) 3FG, and 71.4% FT.

Her team starts two former D2 players.
 
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DaBball said:
I’m not very good with these European leagues, but it looks like her ZKK TRESNJEVKA team is playing in two leagues, WABA and Croatia - A1. Looks like WABA is much more competitive and has teams from multiple countries.

In WABA, where her team is 0-11, she averages (through 9 games) 11.1 PPG, 7.3 RPG, 6.6 APG, 5.8 T/OPG, and 3.3 SPG. She shoots 47.1% 2FG, 23.1% (3-13) 3FG, and 65.8% FT.

In the Croatian league, her team is 11-5 and she averages (through 15 games) 15.3 PPG, 7.6 RPG, 2.1 T/OPG, 1.9 APG, and 1.7 SPG. She shoots 48.9% 2FG, 15.9% (7-44) 3FG, and 71.4% FT.

Her team starts two former D2 players.
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I assume she's competing against players at a much higher level then high school........................I wonder how it would compare to top DI play?...................those three point numbers are not good and a bunch of those shots are probably uncontested..................she appears to have a mid range game so she's ahead of where Ms Coombs is at the moment.............
 
Charliebball said:
I assume she's competing against players at a much higher level then high school....I wonder how it would compare to top DI play?....those three point numbers are not good and a bunch of those shots are probably uncontested...she appears to have a mid range game so she's ahead of where Ms Coombs is at the moment...
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Does UConn need another good defensive, weak offensive guard. I'll take Coombs. She is not only quick but also very athletic. I believe Coombs will develop into a very good guard for UConn. I would think that there are American guards who are as good as Muhl is unless the competition she is playing against is superior to what the American high school girls are facing.
 
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donalddoowop said:
Does UConn need another good defensive, weak offensive guard. I'll take Coombs. She is not only quick but also very athletic. I believe Coombs will develop into a very good guard for UConn. I would think that there are American guards who are as good as Muhl is unless the competition she is playing against is superior to what the American high school girls are facing.
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she's playing internationally and against professionals so they should be a hell of a lot better then high school teams.....................if she wants to play for UConn and the other two targeted guards don't then she's a really good option........................remember that UConn needs lots of players going forward and she clearly has talent........
 
The term “high school competition” is very subjective nowadays. Are we talking Christ the King, St. John’s College, Bishop McNamara, Hamilton Heights, etc. or just your typical high school team. I’m not sure all these pro teams (like Muhl’s) would be the teams mentioned above. Obviously the powerhouse pro teams would.

Would Muhl’s beat a typical HS team? Sure. A powerhouse HS team? Maybe, maybe not. I have no clue.
 
DaBball said:
The term “high school competition” is very subjective nowadays. Are we talking Christ the King, St. John’s College, Bishop McNamara, Hamilton Heights, etc. or just your typical high school team. I’m not sure all these pro teams (like Muhl’s) would be the teams mentioned above. Obviously the powerhouse pro teams would.

Would Muhl’s beat a typical HS team? Sure. A powerhouse HS team? Maybe, maybe not. I have no clue.
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I would rather trust Geno than you anyway.
 
MTC said:
I would rather trust Geno than you anyway.
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DaBball said:
I’m not very good with these European leagues, but it looks like her ZKK TRESNJEVKA team is playing in two leagues, WABA and Croatia - A1. Looks like WABA is much more competitive and has teams from multiple countries.

In WABA, where her team is 0-11, she averages (through 9 games) 11.1 PPG, 7.3 RPG, 6.6 APG, 5.8 T/OPG, and 3.3 SPG. She shoots 47.1% 2FG, 23.1% (3-13) 3FG, and 65.8% FT.

In the Croatian league, her team is 11-5 and she averages (through 15 games) 15.3 PPG, 7.6 RPG, 2.1 T/OPG, 1.9 APG, and 1.7 SPG. She shoots 48.9% 2FG, 15.9% (7-44) 3FG, and 71.4% FT.

Her team starts two former D2 players.
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For comparison, Saniya Chong is averaging 8.6ppg, 3.3rpg, 2.5apg, 1.8spg, and 2.1TO/g in 28mpg for the team in first place in the Women's Adriatic Basketball Association League on 45/26/86 shooting splits.

Here is Muhl's stats page from that league:
FIBA - player - WABA

Where are you getting her Croatian League stats from?

According to this she is averaging 10.2ppg, 7.7rpg, 6.5apg, 3.6spg, and 4.1TO/g in 30mpg with the same shooting splits that you found:
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Muhl is a great talent, although the club situation makes it hard to tell how great exactly because it's pretty rare for a player her age to be given the responsibility to make everything happen for her team. Her current commitment to the college process means that she will probably stay there for now whereas if she was on the definite professional track, she probably would have signed a contract with a team in a different country by now and be more heavily focused on long-term development.
 
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