2013 Commitment Thread

[businesslawyer]

rivals 2012 final rankings:
24-rutgers
42-lville
47-pitt
48-wvu
49-usf
50-cincy
54-bsu
59-uh
61-byu
63-bc
65-cuse
71-memphis
73-ecu
76-temple
77-uconn
86-navy
89-smu
90-ucf
97-sdsu

rivals 2013 up to now rankings:

36-tcu
38-smu
41-byu
42-rutgers
43-wvu
47-cincy
48-bc
50-ucf
53-uh
55-tulane & lville
58-usf
61-pitt
63 bsu & uconn
67-temple
70-ecu
71-cuse
77-sdsu
85-memphis
101-navy
-we also have 2 kids right now without rankings. so if each got a 2* lets say that would give us another 60 to 90 points, if either is a 3* then its over 100. that alone puts us in the mid 50's right now. also a good amount of schools higher up have almost full classes already meanwhile we have 5+ kids to go so were only going to be adding points just like most schools but i think we will add more players for more possible points. being top 50 on rivals is not out of the question this year.
new rivals scale


for the record i value other offers more, i think u know that over stars but enjoy my rankings as well.
i'm going to do a offers thing next so far between the classes.

Thank you that is very helpful. I think "uptick" is the right word. Hopefully, by 2/1 the right word is something a lot more positive.

 

[Duncan Idaho]

PJ
That cant be right it would refute Carl's assertion regarding our recruiting from '07-10

 

[Dann]

to follow up on this. if you look at bc(not trying to get at them right now) they are ranked top 50 right now. its because they have 16 commits vs our 12. the quality of there class sin't much better at all. they have a handful of guys with legit offers and big time looks and the rest are no offer or mac type offer guys. them just having 4 more commits gets them another 200+ points basically at this stage. they will slowly fall ranking wise while we will climb. they peaked and there class is brutal minus 1 ct kid and 1 fl kid.

 

[Dann]

here was my post from signing day time:

Paul’s Haul (February Edition)

Brendan Santos-MA (6’3,250)-DE
scout-3*, 247-3*, rivals-2*, espn-nr
offers- USF


Kyle Bockeloh- TX (6’2, 286)-C
scout-2*, 247-2*, rivals-2*, espn-3*
offers-

Rennick Bryan-CT (6’3,304)-OG
scout-2*, 247-2*, rivals-2*, espn-nr
offers- Temple

Jazzmar Clax-NJ (5’11, 235)-ATH
scout-3*, 247-3*, rivals-3*, espn-3*
offers-Temple, ASU, MD, Rutgers, Minn

Casey Cochran-CT (6’1,200)-QB (pro style)
scout-3*, 247-3*, rivals-3*, espn-3*
offers- BC, Iowa


Ryan Donohue- Montvale, NJ (6’0, 230)-ILB
-eligible to play 2012(2 years left), played two years at MD
scout-2*, rivals-3*, espn-2*
2009 offers-Rutgers

Jordan Floyd-MD (6’1,210)-ATH
scout-3*, 247-2*, rivals-2*, espn-2*
offers- MD, Temple, Marshall

Drew Ghio-CT (6’1, 297)-OG
scout-2*, 247-nr, rivals-2*, espn-nr
offers-

John Green-FL (5’11,170)-WR
scout-2*, 247-3*, rivals-2*, espn-3*
offers- FIU, Buffalo,
-4.37 40 reported

Ricky Gutierrez-FL (6’1, 175)-WR
scout-2*, 247-2*, rivals-3*, espn-nr
offers- Buffalo, FIU, FAU, Kansas

John Hicks-PA (6’2, 235)-ILB
scout-3*, 247-2*, rivals-2*, espn-3*
offers- Temple, Cuse, Pitt, Rutgers

Richard Levy-NJ (6’5,300)-OT
scout-2*, 247-2*, rivals-2*, espn-nr
offers-

Conor Maher-Stony Point, NY (6’2, 215)-LB
-eligible to play 2012(2 years left), played two years at Nova
2009 rankings-scout-nr, rivals-nr, espn-nr
offers-

Michael Marder-FL (6’1,185)-S
scout-2*, 247-2*, rivals-2*, espn-2*
offers-

Alex Mateas-Canada(6’3,303)-OL
-eligble to play 2012, played one year at PSU. He played left tackle for the Ottawa Sooners-CJFL.
2010 rankings-scout-nr, rivals-nr, espn-nr
2010 offers-UConn had offered I read in one article.

Bryce McNeal- Minn, MN (6’2,170)-WR
-eligible to play 2012, one year left (graduate student). From Clemson.
-rivals-4*, scout-4*
2009 offers from Colo, Minn, Oreg

Obi Melifonwu-MA (6’4,195)-S
scout-3*, 247-2*, rivals-3*, espn-nr
offers-


Mikal Myers-NY (6’0, 305)-DT
scout-3*, 247-2*, rivals-3*, espn-3*
offers- PSU

Elijah Norris-DC (6’4,220)-TE/ATH
scout-3*, 247-2*, rivals-2*, espn-2*
offers- KST, MD, MSU

Shakim Phillips-Patterson, NJ (6'2, 203)-WR
-eligible to play 2012. played one year at BC
scout-3*, rivals-4*, espn-4*
2010 offers-Iowa, UNC, MD, Pitt, Rutgers, Tenn, Cincy, UConn, AZ, Duke, UGA, Ill, Lville, MSU, Minn, USF, Cuse, Vandy, Wisc, WVU.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ohB0G8PiCSs

Bobby Puyol-FL (6’0,170)-K
scout-2*, 247-2*, rivals-2*, espn-2*
offers-


Zach Rugg-PA (6’5,270)-OT
scout-3*, 247-2*, rivals-3*, espn-3*
offers-

Tyler Samra-NJ (6’4,275)-C
scout-2*, 247-3*, rivals-2*, espn-3*
offers-

Neil Shortell-KS (6’3,250)-TE
scout-2*, 247-nr, rivals-2*, espn-nr
offers-
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t9Gsksg5KeI

Omaine Stephens-NJ (6’4,220)-DT
scout-2*, 247-2*, rivals-2*, espn-nr
offers-

Jason Sylva-MA (6’2, 250)-ILB
scout-3*, 247-2*, rivals-3*, espn-2*
offers- BC

Wyatt Vinci-NJ (6’3, 235)-FB/LB
scout-2*, 247-3*, rivals-2*, espn-nr
offers-Navy

Chandler Whitmer-KS (6'2, 190)-QB (pro style)
scout-3*, 247-4*, rivals-3*, espn-nr
offers-
-January enrolling, from Butler CC, originally a Illinois 4*commit with several BCS offers out of hs.
-3 Years Eligibility left in college.
-was a 4* on scout but lost it last week

Jhavon Williams-FL (5’11,175)-CB
scout-2*, 247-2*, rivals-3*, espn-2*
offers- UK
-lost his 3* recently on rivals when we got other 3* guys, the man keeping the stars down lol

Joseph Williams-PA-FUMA (6’0,200)-RB
scout-2*, 247-2*, raivals-3*, espn-nr
offers-

 

[Dann]

2012: did not include transfers at all
13 offers from "power 5" confs
12 offers from our level(be/nbe teams)
-the late addition of clax boosted the power 5 # big time

2013: so far
5 offers from power 5
8 offers from our level

if you just filled the class in base doff average the numbers would be 10 and 16.

-so were a little less average wise right now with power 5 conf offers, winning that battle became tougher with conf rel and the espn pumping power 5 now it seems.
-we are doing above average vs others on our level
-so were fringe right now?
-seems like 1 or 2 good commits like a laray or miller or montgomery and these numbers will change drastically...

 

[Jimmy Serrano]

Looks like Lock$ley is gonna get PAID this February.......

 

[Duncan Idaho]

Ran the average Rivals Ratings per recruit
'13 5.47
'12 5.42
'11 5.46
'10 5.40
'09 5.26
'08 5.22
'07 5.25
An uptick, getting close to 5.50 (3*) avg rating/recruit
Looking at a few of our conference foes, Cinci, Rutgers and even USF had major noticable upturns after their best season(s) We are at their level prior to their breakouts
We may need to win with breakout year(s) to get to their level of recruiting according to Rivals' system. I like the guys we have in the program going forward.

 

[Dann]

so with cam we have a interesting te recruiting situation now. btw cam had a couple offers which is another solid get! anyway, we have thompson who will go to de. cam is a te or is he also a de? myers is a te, but i have heard about him possibly slimming down a bit then adding muscle and giving it a go at wr/c. we have a stud offer in fuchs out and i hope we still go after him. this is my thought along with also offering(after grades) joyner and making him a ot or something. this could be a 5 te class lol. the staff is on a nice little roll here. question is can we turn these commits from nyc and fl lately into some serious momentum in good recruit spots into some early 2014 looks.

 

[Dann]

247 sports rated bradley a 3* 80 when he commited. they have now bumped him up to a 3* 87 grade.

 

[WhiteFang2]

so with cam we have a interesting te recruiting situation now. btw cam had a couple offers which is another solid get! anyway, we have thompson who will go to de. cam is a te or is he also a de? myers is a te, but i have heard about him possibly slimming down a bit then adding muscle and giving it a go at wr/c. we have a stud offer in fuchs out and i hope we still go after him. this is my thought along with also offering(after grades) joyner and making him a ot or something. this could be a 5 te class lol. the staff is on a nice little roll here. question is can we turn these commits from nyc and fl lately into some serious momentum in good recruit spots into some early 2014 looks.

Myers going to WR/C would be interesting.
Joyner doesn't have any grade issues, but I like the way you're thinking!

 

[Dann]

smallwood is going to commit somewhere 2day i think.

 

[ucjoet]

Myers going to WR/C would be interesting.
Joyner doesn't have any grade issues, but I like the way you're thinking!

I need some help on the Meyers info. It states he might be moved to WR / C. I think that means either wide receiver or center. If I am correct, that seems little odd. They are positions that are on the opposite side of the spectrum. The C has to mean center (what else can it be).

 

[Dann]

i think i ment to type wr/cb

 

[kibblesnbits]

i think i ment to type wr/cb

Isn't Myers 6'5"? If so, CB is not in his future.

 

[pj]

You haven't heard of the new CB/LB/DE hybrid? Able to cover tight ends, wide receivers, and running backs, or rush the passer. Gives the defense plenty of looks. Also, sells popcorn and beer at half time.

Seriously, I can't wait to see Myers on the field. Not sure what they'll do with him but I'm sure it will be good.

 

[ucjoet]

Thanks

i think i ment to type wr/cb

Thanks for the info. The Center thing was messing me up. It is a great advantage to have recruits that come in that can play different positions. It give everyone more competition and leads to greater depth at each position.

 

[Dann]

summers and myers both get 2* on rivals. we have a top 60 class ranking wise it seems right now on both 247 and rivals fwiw.

anyone else feel like hadley and stapleton should be 3* guys on rivals? both had more than 1 offer from bcs conf teams....some 1 should challenge that shit on the rivals board just to let them know were watching them trying not to notice our uptick in recruiting...

 

[Dann]

noel did the cover shoot today for msg. it comes out mid sept for all those interested. guess who is on the cover with him? ebenezer ogundecko. yup thats right, hopefully he and noel hit it off today

i will add matt walsh in soon to the op. hopefully he is not the only one this weekend.

 

[ktuck911]

summers and myers both get 2* on rivals. we have a top 60 class ranking wise it seems right now on both 247 and rivals fwiw.

anyone else feel like hadley and stapleton should be 3* guys on rivals? both had more than 1 offer from bcs conf teams....some 1 should challenge that **** on the rivals board just to let them know were watching them trying not to notice our uptick in recruiting...

By the time the commit becomes official Hadley will be 3 stars

 

[Duncan Idaho]

summers and myers both get 2* on rivals. we have a top 60 class ranking wise it seems right now on both 247 and rivals fwiw.

anyone else feel like hadley and stapleton should be 3* guys on rivals? both had more than 1 offer from bcs conf teams....some 1 should challenge that **** on the rivals board just to let them know were watching them trying not to notice our uptick in recruiting...

Hadley has a 5.4 Rivals Rating, a decent year would push that up to 5.5 and 3*
Myers is a 5.3, he may not get bumped up high enough unless its a relatively monster year. Summers is also 5.3

 

[Dann]

couple small updates. walsh got 3* from espn fwiw.

 

[huskynation]

couple small updates. walsh got 3* from espn fwiw.

It seems that espn in showing uconn more love on its recruiting site . 7 3* recruits out of a class of 14. That's not bad at all.


Espn Commitment List 3 star recruits

2010 5
2011 4
2012 8 ( including neally cunningham who didn't qualify)
2013 7

 

[Dann]

It seems that espn in showing uconn more love on its recruiting site . 7 3* recruits out of a class of 14. That's not bad at all.


Espn Commitment List 3 star recruits

2010 5
2011 4
2012 8 ( including neally cunningham who didn't qualify)
2013 7

glad others are noticing the uptick. its like this on rivals as well and 247 . scout is being a hater just dropping 2* nr's on most kids and will wait because they lost this fan base which hurts site hits i'm sure....

 

[uconndogs]

I think the distinction between 2 and 3 stars on the sites is indciative of very little. Offers probably holds some meaning, but that assumes the sites depict that accurately and often they don't. At the level we are at (i.e. most programs) assessing and developing talent is equally important as getting who you want.

 

[Jimmy Serrano]

glad others are noticing the uptick. its like this on rivals as well and 247 . scout is being a hater just dropping 2* nr's on most kids and will wait because they lost this fan base which hurts site hits i'm sure....

This is why I could care less about stars. Sites manipulate star rankings to satisfy fanbases who buy subscriptions. Besides, you can't tell me there's much of a difference between a 2 and 3 star kid. It's purely guess work at that stage. The top kids, sure, you can tell.

I put more stock into a kid's offer list more than anything else. And half of the time, those are inflated by the prospect anyway.

 

[Duncan Idaho]

This is why I could care less about stars. Sites manipulate star rankings to satisfy fanbases who buy subscriptions. Besides, you can't tell me there's much of a difference between a 2 and 3 star kid. It's purely guess work at that stage. The top kids, sure, you can tell.

I put more stock into a kid's offer list more than anything else. And half of the time, those are inflated by the prospect anyway.

Scout ranks prospects up to 200 in most postions. save specialsts K, P.
What makes #102 kid over #126, #146...

 

[UConnRock]

This is why I could care less about stars. Sites manipulate star rankings to satisfy fanbases who buy subscriptions. Besides, you can't tell me there's much of a difference between a 2 and 3 star kid. It's purely guess work at that stage. The top kids, sure, you can tell.

I put more stock into a kid's offer list more than anything else. And half of the time, those are inflated by the prospect anyway.

This is what has baffled me about the ranking and recruiting of Isaacs. Per Rivals he is the #7 TE in the nation. Think about that for a moment and grasp what you would think the recruiting interest would be for this type of 4-star prospect. However, his offers have remained BC, UConn, Maryland and Rutgers since virtually the beginning of recruiting cycle. It was well known that his BCU commit was the softest of all soft commits, but that didn't increase the interest in Isaacs at all. No PSU, Iowa, Wisconsin, ND, Pitt, UNC, NC State, Miami or anyother apparent interest or offers. The schools I listed are gererally those that get some traction in northeast recruiting and know the top prospects in the area. Not saying that Isaacs isn't a good player, but the offer list tells a story.

 

[Dann]

This is what has baffled me about the ranking and recruiting of Isaacs. Per Rivals he is the #7 TE in the nation. Think about that for a moment and grasp what you would think the recruiting interest would be for this type of 4-star prospect. However, his offers have remained BC, UConn, Maryland and Rutgers since virtually the beginning of recruiting cycle. It was well known that his BCU commit was the softest of all soft commits, but that didn't increase the interest in Isaacs at all. No PSU, Iowa, Wisconsin, ND, Pitt, UNC, NC State, Miami or anyother apparent interest or offers. The schools I listed are gererally those that get some traction in northeast recruiting and know the top prospects in the area. Not saying that Isaacs isn't a good player, but the offer list tells a story.

if u look back in this thread(don't bother just saying lol) i remember talking about this. the kid is a solid 3* prospect but when he committed to bc the pump up was on and he went p to 4* quick. just how the game goes on the sites.

This is why I could care less about stars. Sites manipulate star rankings to satisfy fanbases who buy subscriptions. Besides, you can't tell me there's much of a difference between a 2 and 3 star kid. It's purely guess work at that stage. The top kids, sure, you can tell.

I put more stock into a kid's offer list more than anything else. And half of the time, those are inflated by the prospect anyway.

i also put way more weight into other offers and certain things then stars. but i also want the most stars possible for every kid because its a major perception thing. i'm all about uconn rising levels in the game so i want stars just so other fan bases can see them. i want people to notice uconn more etc.

as for other offers, this class is doing pretty well so far. we have no big fish offers wise that had a bunch of good ones, but about half the class had at least 1 solid other offer. were on pace to improve again off the previous year which would make 2 years in a row where the recruiting took another step up. eventually these steps will look a lot more easier to spot but right now they are small in building momentum considering the past 2 rocky years of uconn fball.

10 of our 14 commits so far have gotten at least 1 3* already. thats more than ever(pretty sure) before already and were not not done with this class. uptick in progress from many angles.

 

[johnhuskies95]

This is what has baffled me about the ranking and recruiting of Isaacs. Per Rivals he is the #7 TE in the nation. Think about that for a moment and grasp what you would think the recruiting interest would be for this type of 4-star prospect. However, his offers have remained BC, UConn, Maryland and Rutgers since virtually the beginning of recruiting cycle. It was well known that his BCU commit was the softest of all soft commits, but that didn't increase the interest in Isaacs at all. No PSU, Iowa, Wisconsin, ND, Pitt, UNC, NC State, Miami or anyother apparent interest or offers. The schools I listed are gererally those that get some traction in northeast recruiting and know the top prospects in the area. Not saying that Isaacs isn't a good player, but the offer list tells a story.

Isaacs didn't camp at all or go to any combines in the last year. That's why he's gone under the radar as far as offers.

 

[Buffett10]

Last I heard about isaacs is he tore his acl at the end of the season so that's why he hasn't camped this summer.