2013 Commitment Thread

[Dann]

did a small bit of updating to the op. will do more another time.

to compare 2012 to 13 so far, last year we had this by august 1st:
-battles
-hicks
-marder
-meli
-myers
-norris
-puyol
-samra
-jh williams
-sylva
-we landed 5 guys during the month of august.

so 10 last year to 12 this year. to compare rivals stars. seven of those from 2012 were 2* players and three were 3* players. this year for rivals we have 2 un-ranked players, three 2* players and seven 3* players. #uptick

-were getting more commits earlier
-they are on a rise rankings wise also
-rivals had us at nine 3* players last class of 23, we have 7 already of 12 to date.

this was the best summer we have had yet. if we can get a couple august commits(we got 5 last year), this class may be almost done come umass.
i think we could land a 2nd tight end, a running back and a dline guy this month for starters.

 

[businesslawyer]

did a small bit of updating to the op. will do more another time.

to compare 2012 to 13 so far, last year we had this by august 1st:
-battles
-hicks
-marder
-meli
-myers
-norris
-puyol
-samra
-jh williams
-sylva
-we landed 5 guys during the month of august.

so 10 last year to 12 this year. to compare rivals stars. seven of those from 2012 were 2* players and three were 3* players. this year for rivals we have 2 un-ranked players, three 2* players and seven 3* players. #uptick

-were getting more commits earlier
-they are on a rise rankings wise also
-rivals had us at nine 3* players last class of 23, we have 7 already of 12 to date.

this was the best summer we have had yet. if we can get a couple august commits(we got 5 last year), this class may be almost done come umass.
i think we could land a 2nd tight end, a running back and a dline guy this month for starters.

Since others have shown some inflation in the number of stars given out generally, to complete your analysis would you mind comparing our national and conference standing as of today with wehre it was a year ago? Thanks.

(FYI, I don't doubt that there has been some uptick in recruiting based on the services. I'm just not sure it's what others think it is. Comparing us to our peers would seem to me more meaningful than just counting stars.).

 

[pj]

Class of 2013 team rankings on Rivals: UConn currently tied for #63
Class of 2012 team rankings on Rivals: UConn tied for #77
Class of 2011 team rankings on Rivals: UConn #101
Class of 2010 team rankings on Rivals: UConn tied for #83
Class of 2009 team rankings on Rivals: UConn #75
Class of 2008 team rankings on Rivals: UConn #71
Class of 2007 team rankings on Rivals: UConn #65
Class of 2006 team rankings on Rivals: UConn #85
Class of 2005 team rankings on Rivals: UConn tied for #79
Class of 2004 team rankings on Rivals: UConn tied for #99
Class of 2003 team rankings on Rivals: UConn tied for #88

So (a) we're on track for our best class ever, but (b) the uptick is only one tick, not many; and (c) Randy Edsall's recruiting, by this measure, was getting worse his last few years -- perhaps that helped precipitate his move.

 

[Duncan Idaho]

Thanks Dan,
still think you may want to consider/compare the avg Rivals Rating/player between years

 

[Dann]

rivals 2012 final rankings:
24-rutgers
42-lville
47-pitt
48-wvu
49-usf
50-cincy
54-bsu
59-uh
61-byu
63-bc
65-cuse
71-memphis
73-ecu
76-temple
77-uconn
86-navy
89-smu
90-ucf
97-sdsu

rivals 2013 up to now rankings:

36-tcu
38-smu
41-byu
42-rutgers
43-wvu
47-cincy
48-bc
50-ucf
53-uh
55-tulane & lville
58-usf
61-pitt
63 bsu & uconn
67-temple
70-ecu
71-cuse
77-sdsu
85-memphis
101-navy
-we also have 2 kids right now without rankings. so if each got a 2* lets say that would give us another 60 to 90 points, if either is a 3* then its over 100. that alone puts us in the mid 50's right now. also a good amount of schools higher up have almost full classes already meanwhile we have 5+ kids to go so were only going to be adding points just like most schools but i think we will add more players for more possible points. being top 50 on rivals is not out of the question this year.
new rivals scale


for the record i value other offers more, i think u know that over stars but enjoy my rankings as well.
i'm going to do a offers thing next so far between the classes.

 

[businesslawyer]

rivals 2012 final rankings:
24-rutgers
42-lville
47-pitt
48-wvu
49-usf
50-cincy
54-bsu
59-uh
61-byu
63-bc
65-cuse
71-memphis
73-ecu
76-temple
77-uconn
86-navy
89-smu
90-ucf
97-sdsu

rivals 2013 up to now rankings:

36-tcu
38-smu
41-byu
42-rutgers
43-wvu
47-cincy
48-bc
50-ucf
53-uh
55-tulane & lville
58-usf
61-pitt
63 bsu & uconn
67-temple
70-ecu
71-cuse
77-sdsu
85-memphis
101-navy
-we also have 2 kids right now without rankings. so if each got a 2* lets say that would give us another 60 to 90 points, if either is a 3* then its over 100. that alone puts us in the mid 50's right now. also a good amount of schools higher up have almost full classes already meanwhile we have 5+ kids to go so were only going to be adding points just like most schools but i think we will add more players for more possible points. being top 50 on rivals is not out of the question this year.
new rivals scale


for the record i value other offers more, i think u know that over stars but enjoy my rankings as well.
i'm going to do a offers thing next so far between the classes.

Thank you that is very helpful. I think "uptick" is the right word. Hopefully, by 2/1 the right word is something a lot more positive.

 

[Duncan Idaho]

PJ
That cant be right it would refute Carl's assertion regarding our recruiting from '07-10

 

[Dann]

to follow up on this. if you look at bc(not trying to get at them right now) they are ranked top 50 right now. its because they have 16 commits vs our 12. the quality of there class sin't much better at all. they have a handful of guys with legit offers and big time looks and the rest are no offer or mac type offer guys. them just having 4 more commits gets them another 200+ points basically at this stage. they will slowly fall ranking wise while we will climb. they peaked and there class is brutal minus 1 ct kid and 1 fl kid.

 

[Dann]

here was my post from signing day time:

Paul’s Haul (February Edition)

Brendan Santos-MA (6’3,250)-DE
scout-3*, 247-3*, rivals-2*, espn-nr
offers- USF


Kyle Bockeloh- TX (6’2, 286)-C
scout-2*, 247-2*, rivals-2*, espn-3*
offers-

Rennick Bryan-CT (6’3,304)-OG
scout-2*, 247-2*, rivals-2*, espn-nr
offers- Temple

Jazzmar Clax-NJ (5’11, 235)-ATH
scout-3*, 247-3*, rivals-3*, espn-3*
offers-Temple, ASU, MD, Rutgers, Minn

Casey Cochran-CT (6’1,200)-QB (pro style)
scout-3*, 247-3*, rivals-3*, espn-3*
offers- BC, Iowa


Ryan Donohue- Montvale, NJ (6’0, 230)-ILB
-eligible to play 2012(2 years left), played two years at MD
scout-2*, rivals-3*, espn-2*
2009 offers-Rutgers

Jordan Floyd-MD (6’1,210)-ATH
scout-3*, 247-2*, rivals-2*, espn-2*
offers- MD, Temple, Marshall

Drew Ghio-CT (6’1, 297)-OG
scout-2*, 247-nr, rivals-2*, espn-nr
offers-

John Green-FL (5’11,170)-WR
scout-2*, 247-3*, rivals-2*, espn-3*
offers- FIU, Buffalo,
-4.37 40 reported

Ricky Gutierrez-FL (6’1, 175)-WR
scout-2*, 247-2*, rivals-3*, espn-nr
offers- Buffalo, FIU, FAU, Kansas

John Hicks-PA (6’2, 235)-ILB
scout-3*, 247-2*, rivals-2*, espn-3*
offers- Temple, Cuse, Pitt, Rutgers

Richard Levy-NJ (6’5,300)-OT
scout-2*, 247-2*, rivals-2*, espn-nr
offers-

Conor Maher-Stony Point, NY (6’2, 215)-LB
-eligible to play 2012(2 years left), played two years at Nova
2009 rankings-scout-nr, rivals-nr, espn-nr
offers-

Michael Marder-FL (6’1,185)-S
scout-2*, 247-2*, rivals-2*, espn-2*
offers-

Alex Mateas-Canada(6’3,303)-OL
-eligble to play 2012, played one year at PSU. He played left tackle for the Ottawa Sooners-CJFL.
2010 rankings-scout-nr, rivals-nr, espn-nr
2010 offers-UConn had offered I read in one article.

Bryce McNeal- Minn, MN (6’2,170)-WR
-eligible to play 2012, one year left (graduate student). From Clemson.
-rivals-4*, scout-4*
2009 offers from Colo, Minn, Oreg

Obi Melifonwu-MA (6’4,195)-S
scout-3*, 247-2*, rivals-3*, espn-nr
offers-


Mikal Myers-NY (6’0, 305)-DT
scout-3*, 247-2*, rivals-3*, espn-3*
offers- PSU

Elijah Norris-DC (6’4,220)-TE/ATH
scout-3*, 247-2*, rivals-2*, espn-2*
offers- KST, MD, MSU

Shakim Phillips-Patterson, NJ (6'2, 203)-WR
-eligible to play 2012. played one year at BC
scout-3*, rivals-4*, espn-4*
2010 offers-Iowa, UNC, MD, Pitt, Rutgers, Tenn, Cincy, UConn, AZ, Duke, UGA, Ill, Lville, MSU, Minn, USF, Cuse, Vandy, Wisc, WVU.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ohB0G8PiCSs

Bobby Puyol-FL (6’0,170)-K
scout-2*, 247-2*, rivals-2*, espn-2*
offers-


Zach Rugg-PA (6’5,270)-OT
scout-3*, 247-2*, rivals-3*, espn-3*
offers-

Tyler Samra-NJ (6’4,275)-C
scout-2*, 247-3*, rivals-2*, espn-3*
offers-

Neil Shortell-KS (6’3,250)-TE
scout-2*, 247-nr, rivals-2*, espn-nr
offers-
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t9Gsksg5KeI

Omaine Stephens-NJ (6’4,220)-DT
scout-2*, 247-2*, rivals-2*, espn-nr
offers-

Jason Sylva-MA (6’2, 250)-ILB
scout-3*, 247-2*, rivals-3*, espn-2*
offers- BC

Wyatt Vinci-NJ (6’3, 235)-FB/LB
scout-2*, 247-3*, rivals-2*, espn-nr
offers-Navy

Chandler Whitmer-KS (6'2, 190)-QB (pro style)
scout-3*, 247-4*, rivals-3*, espn-nr
offers-
-January enrolling, from Butler CC, originally a Illinois 4*commit with several BCS offers out of hs.
-3 Years Eligibility left in college.
-was a 4* on scout but lost it last week

Jhavon Williams-FL (5’11,175)-CB
scout-2*, 247-2*, rivals-3*, espn-2*
offers- UK
-lost his 3* recently on rivals when we got other 3* guys, the man keeping the stars down lol

Joseph Williams-PA-FUMA (6’0,200)-RB
scout-2*, 247-2*, raivals-3*, espn-nr
offers-

 

[Dann]

2012: did not include transfers at all
13 offers from "power 5" confs
12 offers from our level(be/nbe teams)
-the late addition of clax boosted the power 5 # big time

2013: so far
5 offers from power 5
8 offers from our level

if you just filled the class in base doff average the numbers would be 10 and 16.

-so were a little less average wise right now with power 5 conf offers, winning that battle became tougher with conf rel and the espn pumping power 5 now it seems.
-we are doing above average vs others on our level
-so were fringe right now?
-seems like 1 or 2 good commits like a laray or miller or montgomery and these numbers will change drastically...

 

[Jimmy Serrano]

Looks like Lock$ley is gonna get PAID this February.......

 

[Duncan Idaho]

Ran the average Rivals Ratings per recruit
'13 5.47
'12 5.42
'11 5.46
'10 5.40
'09 5.26
'08 5.22
'07 5.25
An uptick, getting close to 5.50 (3*) avg rating/recruit
Looking at a few of our conference foes, Cinci, Rutgers and even USF had major noticable upturns after their best season(s) We are at their level prior to their breakouts
We may need to win with breakout year(s) to get to their level of recruiting according to Rivals' system. I like the guys we have in the program going forward.

 

[Dann]

so with cam we have a interesting te recruiting situation now. btw cam had a couple offers which is another solid get! anyway, we have thompson who will go to de. cam is a te or is he also a de? myers is a te, but i have heard about him possibly slimming down a bit then adding muscle and giving it a go at wr/c. we have a stud offer in fuchs out and i hope we still go after him. this is my thought along with also offering(after grades) joyner and making him a ot or something. this could be a 5 te class lol. the staff is on a nice little roll here. question is can we turn these commits from nyc and fl lately into some serious momentum in good recruit spots into some early 2014 looks.

 

[Dann]

247 sports rated bradley a 3* 80 when he commited. they have now bumped him up to a 3* 87 grade.

 

[WhiteFang2]

so with cam we have a interesting te recruiting situation now. btw cam had a couple offers which is another solid get! anyway, we have thompson who will go to de. cam is a te or is he also a de? myers is a te, but i have heard about him possibly slimming down a bit then adding muscle and giving it a go at wr/c. we have a stud offer in fuchs out and i hope we still go after him. this is my thought along with also offering(after grades) joyner and making him a ot or something. this could be a 5 te class lol. the staff is on a nice little roll here. question is can we turn these commits from nyc and fl lately into some serious momentum in good recruit spots into some early 2014 looks.

Myers going to WR/C would be interesting.
Joyner doesn't have any grade issues, but I like the way you're thinking!

 

[Dann]

smallwood is going to commit somewhere 2day i think.

 

[ucjoet]

Myers going to WR/C would be interesting.
Joyner doesn't have any grade issues, but I like the way you're thinking!

I need some help on the Meyers info. It states he might be moved to WR / C. I think that means either wide receiver or center. If I am correct, that seems little odd. They are positions that are on the opposite side of the spectrum. The C has to mean center (what else can it be).

 

[Dann]

i think i ment to type wr/cb

 

[kibblesnbits]

i think i ment to type wr/cb

Isn't Myers 6'5"? If so, CB is not in his future.

 

[pj]

You haven't heard of the new CB/LB/DE hybrid? Able to cover tight ends, wide receivers, and running backs, or rush the passer. Gives the defense plenty of looks. Also, sells popcorn and beer at half time.

Seriously, I can't wait to see Myers on the field. Not sure what they'll do with him but I'm sure it will be good.

 

[ucjoet]

Thanks

i think i ment to type wr/cb

Thanks for the info. The Center thing was messing me up. It is a great advantage to have recruits that come in that can play different positions. It give everyone more competition and leads to greater depth at each position.

 

[Dann]

summers and myers both get 2* on rivals. we have a top 60 class ranking wise it seems right now on both 247 and rivals fwiw.

anyone else feel like hadley and stapleton should be 3* guys on rivals? both had more than 1 offer from bcs conf teams....some 1 should challenge that on the rivals board just to let them know were watching them trying not to notice our uptick in recruiting...

 

[Dann]

noel did the cover shoot today for msg. it comes out mid sept for all those interested. guess who is on the cover with him? ebenezer ogundecko. yup thats right, hopefully he and noel hit it off today

i will add matt walsh in soon to the op. hopefully he is not the only one this weekend.

 

[ktuck911]

summers and myers both get 2* on rivals. we have a top 60 class ranking wise it seems right now on both 247 and rivals fwiw.

anyone else feel like hadley and stapleton should be 3* guys on rivals? both had more than 1 offer from bcs conf teams....some 1 should challenge that **** on the rivals board just to let them know were watching them trying not to notice our uptick in recruiting...

By the time the commit becomes official Hadley will be 3 stars

 

[Duncan Idaho]

summers and myers both get 2* on rivals. we have a top 60 class ranking wise it seems right now on both 247 and rivals fwiw.

anyone else feel like hadley and stapleton should be 3* guys on rivals? both had more than 1 offer from bcs conf teams....some 1 should challenge that **** on the rivals board just to let them know were watching them trying not to notice our uptick in recruiting...

Hadley has a 5.4 Rivals Rating, a decent year would push that up to 5.5 and 3*
Myers is a 5.3, he may not get bumped up high enough unless its a relatively monster year. Summers is also 5.3