Zach Brown's recruitiment part of investigation

[Travelman6]

Conspiracy Kitty says:
Or is spot on, considering the history.

So as a way to avoid proper dialouge you post an unrelated, overused, cliche meme that has nothing to do with what I said or addresses what I said? I suggest you look up groups of people, such as the Jew, who were truly "persecuted" in the past. Vendetta? Totally. Unfair targeting? Oh yah. Grudge? duh. Persecution? A basketball team? mmm, not so much. That is not "Conspiracy" (look that up too), that is fact.

EDIT: "Persecution is the systematic mistreatment individual or group by another individual or group. The most common forms are religious persecution, racism and political persecution, though there is naturally some overlap between these terms. The inflicting of suffering, harassment, imprisonment, internment, fear, or pain are all factors that may establish persecution, but not all suffering will necessarily establish persecution. The suffering experienced by the victim must be sufficiently severe. The threshold level of severity has been a source of much debate."

But I am sure that thresehold does not include a basketball team..Just sayin.

 

[upstater]

Plausible scenario: Boo greased the wheels with Zach's handlers, SJ found out about it after they got the commit but kept it under wraps. After the Sid Wilson situation played out, SJ no longer felt obligated to play nice and blew the whistle.

The question is: who are the other 2-4 recruits supposedly being investigated?

How much money could they give the rich guy who was his handler/guardian to attract him? Gee, I know you're independently very wealthy, but here's $5k to subvert the kid's interests.

 

[Towney007]

Willingham was Brown's AAU coach.

Which is a whole other basket of apples - but i'm kind of wondering if they're just being cased to make sure there's no quid pro quo going on here. Which is entirely reasonable. I mean UConn supposed to do? NOT recruit off teams coached by alums or something?

But nothing here - at least in this particular case (just Brown) - seems like it's anything serious. We'll see what else is out there.

 

[CL82]

overused, cliche meme

Conspiracy Kitty says:
Or is not used enough?

 

[upstater]

N.C.A.A. Questioned Its Authority in Penalizing Penn State

N.C.A.A. Decides to Roll Back Sanctions Against Penn State

They aren’t different PSU just allowed some before they fought back.

The NCAA admitted no legal ability to sanction UNC for their fake classes.

The NCAA screwed up the Penn State punishment badly. They could have given it the death penalty. Instead they loaded the punishment with a $60m fine payable to the NCAA. They were going to be challenged on that and lose that lawsuit on day 1. Hard to believe they even tried to do that in the first place.

As always they were greedy for money. And it blew up in their face.

 

[Travelman6]

Conspiracy Kitty says:
Or is not used enough?

Go look up Persecution .

Here is a start. Persecution is the systematic mistreatment individual or group by another individual or group. The most common forms are religious persecution, racism and political persecution, though there is naturally some overlap between these terms. The inflicting of suffering, harassment, imprisonment, internment, fear, or pain are all factors that may establish persecution, but not all suffering will necessarily establish persecution. The suffering experienced by the victim must be sufficiently severe. The threshold level of severity has been a source of much debate."

Next go look up Conspiracy.

 

[8893]

Ok, how about inquisition then?

 

[intlzncster]

Sometime I feel like reading JJ is almost like a conversation. In this case JJ writes a column and the BY discusses. JJ writes follow up based upon board discussion. I'm not complaining about it in the least, since it is like interactive media, but it also is good journalism. JJ has adapted over the years. He uses the BY to the betterment of his work. Kudos to him.

And can you imagine the content for the casual fan?

 

[whaler11]

The NCAA screwed up the Penn State punishment badly. They could have given it the death penalty. Instead they loaded the punishment with a $60m fine payable to the NCAA. They were going to be challenged on that and lose that lawsuit on day 1. Hard to believe they even tried to do that in the first place.

As always they were greedy for money. And it blew up in their face.

The money was supposed to go to a national survivor program. Isn’t that why PA sued to keep it in a PA program?

 

[businesslawyer]

The focus here should be getting Zach’s life together, not going after the schools that recruited him.

And how exactly do you want the NCAA to do that?

 

[BigErnMcCracken]

So as a way to avoid proper dialouge you post an unrelated, overused, cliche meme that has nothing to do with what I said or addresses what I said? I suggest you look up groups of people, such as the Jew, who were truly "persecuted" in the past. Vendetta? Totally. Unfair targeting? Oh yah. Grudge? duh. Persecution? A basketball team? mmm, not so much. That is not "Conspiracy" (look that up too), that is fact.

EDIT: "Persecution is the systematic mistreatment individual or group by another individual or group. The most common forms are religious persecution, racism and political persecution, though there is naturally some overlap between these terms. The inflicting of suffering, harassment, imprisonment, internment, fear, or pain are all factors that may establish persecution, but not all suffering will necessarily establish persecution. The suffering experienced by the victim must be sufficiently severe. The threshold level of severity has been a source of much debate."

But I am sure that thresehold does not include a basketball team..Just sayin.

This is seriously your argument, that you don't think the NCAA's treatment of UConn maps to whatever literal definition of the word "persecution" you dug up online? Good lord this place sucks these days. I mean, this is just arguing for the sake of being a . If you were around when the NCAA was ex post facto-ing the hell out of UConn you wouldn't be picking this almost comically stupid hill to die on.

 

[intlzncster]

If Emmert survives the MSU scandal AD Dave should hire away one of Emmert's underlings. Bring someone he likes into the athletic department. If you think this is a long standing vendetta against UConn then we should make it hard for him to continue to hate us. We have enough wasted salaries as it is in this incompetent athletic department, what's one more if it will give us some immunity moving forwards? play the game

Problem: Emmert doesn't actually like anybody. He has not friends. He's a slimy, worm-like, perfidious little twa t.

Better to pay one of his underlings, who surely despises that @ssbag, to spill the inside beans on all his dastardly, duplicitous dealings.

 

[Penfield]

And how exactly do you want the NCAA to do that?

Well they could start by coercing him to rat out a bunch of people that may have broken their archaic rule system. That would probably help with the rehabilitation process.

 

[Spokesbender]

It had to be you, wonderful you

 

[Chief00]

So you’re saying St. John’s saw the Sid appeal as an act by our Athletics Dept that put their program in the NCAA’s crosshairs. So they retaliated by filing a complaint against us?

Even though fake classes are ok per the NCAA it’s not something a university likes having highlighted.

 

[8893]

Better to pay one of his underlings, who surely despises that @ssbag, to spill the inside beans on all his dastardly, duplicitous dealings.

We need to Black Cube his ass.

 

[pj]

If we got punished for taking classes by the ncaa, how does the ncaa not punish unc for not taking classes?

We got punished for giving our players Fs. UNC gave their players As and Bs. So they were fine.

 

[VAHuskyFan]

Even though fake classes are ok per the NCAA it’s not something a university likes having highlighted.

Given that this is all purely hypothetical, IF our appeal set St. Johns off and caused them to retaliate, is that an off-the-wall reaction by them or something our athletics dept should have anticipated as a possibility?

The chance of our appeal being granted by the NCAA always seemed low, so not a lot of upside for taking on that risk.

At the same time, I think we owed it to Sid to at least make a run at it on his behalf, so I’m not sure there was really much of a choice for our athletics dept. We’re just completely snakebit.

 

[upstater]

The money was supposed to go to a national survivor program. Isn’t that why PA sued to keep it in a PA program?

Some of the money. $30m. $30m was to go to the NCAA. And no, PA did not sue to have it go to a PA program. It gets convoluted. The NCAA tried to have the lawsuit dropped IF it agreed to forego the fine and have the money go to a PA program. That was in 2013. This was the NCAA's idea, not the state's. NCAA lost that bid in front of the judge. In the end, the state got $48m back from PSU from its budget coffers ($24m from the athletic program, $24m from the school) and the school sent $12m to the state's child abuse agency.

 

[upstater]

All of this boils down to a couple persecutions, several inquisitions, and a gaggle of torture devices.

 

[whaler11]

Given that this is all purely hypothetical, IF our appeal set St. Johns off and caused them to retaliate, is that an off-the-wall reaction by them or something our athletics dept should have anticipated as a possibility?

The chance of our appeal being granted by the NCAA always seemed low, so not a lot of upside for taking on that risk.

At the same time, I think we owed it to Sid to at least make a run at it on his behalf, so I’m not sure there was really much of a choice for our athletics dept. We’re just completely snakebit.

If they were investigating because of Wilson would they really appeal the last denial? We know the investigation has been ongoing since the fall and they appealed after Christmas.

I am down to about zero respect for our Athletic Department but even I don’t think they could be quite that stupid.

 

[Travelman6]

This is seriously your argument, that you don't think the NCAA's treatment of UConn maps to whatever literal definition of the word "persecution" you dug up online? Good lord this place sucks these days. I mean, this is just arguing for the sake of being a . If you were around when the NCAA was ex post facto-ing the hell out of UConn you wouldn't be picking this almost comically stupid hill to die on.

It is not persecution and saying so insults those who have had to deal with it and stating that is not being a , it is being truthful. Does anyone want to engage like an adult or just throw around personal attacks (because they literally don't have a proper retort)?

I am totally admitting and agreeing that this is a vendetta, it is unfair, it is a grudge. That is clear.

 

[CL82]

Go look up Persecution .

Here is a start. Persecution is the systematic mistreatment individual or group by another individual or group. The most common forms are religious persecution, racism and political persecution, though there is naturally some overlap between these terms. The inflicting of suffering, harassment, imprisonment, internment, fear, or pain are all factors that may establish persecution, but not all suffering will necessarily establish persecution. The suffering experienced by the victim must be sufficiently severe. The threshold level of severity has been a source of much debate."

Next go look up Conspiracy.

Conspiracy Kitty says:
You should consider cutting back on the caffeine. Just sayin'.

 

[Travelman6]

Conspiracy Kitty says:
You should consider cutting back on the caffeine. Just sayin'.

You should consider using your brain for once, just sayin'. Troll/spamming the same topic 3 times. Adios.

 

[huskymedic]

Conspiracy Kitty says:
You should consider cutting back on the caffeine. Just sayin'.

... or sniffing catnip.

 

[KodiacKemba]

Never seen so many people hope for something to turn up on Ollie just to dump his salary and he’s one of ours smh ...

 

[Travelman6]

... or sniffing catnip.

No no, you are right, a basketball team is being "persecuted". Yah sure, happy?

 

[CL82]

You should consider using your brain for once, just sayin'. Troll/spamming the same topic 3 times. Adios.

Conspiracy Kitty says:
You realize you are arguing with a cat... and losing.

 

[CL82]

... or sniffing catnip.

Conspiracy Kitty says:
Don't judge me until you walked a mile in my hat, but, yeah, that would probably help his outlook.

 

[Huskygamble19]

Serious question...Does Emmert have a real life??