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it seems to me that if the B1G does something, it does it very well. Why have a hockey conference with only 6 programs? I could see them expanding and UCONN is an obvious choice but given Rule #1....
I don't think ASU Hockey will be invited to the B1G anytime soon. ASU is not the Johns Hopkins of the hockey world.
Hockey East is a hockey conference, unlike the B1G's, so let's enjoy our one power play, so to speak.
 
brasssbonanzaa said:
I don't see ND getting into bed with the B1G, something just doesn't work there. Not impossible, but unlikely. If UNL adds, that would only remove the need for hockey-only team #8, unless another joined and they needed a 10th. ASU is far away as hell, but they're a name program with a solid backing. I don't know if it would happen, but there seems to be some traction.
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ND has got its own home hockey TV deal with NBC Sports. Combine that with how good Hockey East is, how well it supports ND's move of other sports to the ACC (East Coast), and the antipathy ND has for anything Big Ten related, and you are correct....ND hockey is not going to the Big Ten.
 
I really don't get Arizona St to the B1G. Travel costs for all involved, especially ASU, are astronomical.

AND, Arizona has absolutely abandoned public education. Where is that money coming from?

There is a certain level of insanity afoot.

But, minor sports tend to have a lot of movement between conferences. The B1G might not even care if ASU comes aboard or leaves.
 
TerryD said:
ND has got its own home hockey TV deal with NBC Sports. Combine that with how good Hockey East is, how well it supports ND's move of other sports to the ACC (East Coast), and the antipathy ND has for anything Big Ten related, and you are correct....ND hockey is not going to the Big Ten.
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Who gives a duckk?
 
whaler11 said:
That's revenue and there is no math. But yeah there is a good chance that Minnesota and Wisconsin couldif that revenue is real.
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This shows Minnesota, Wisconsin and Michigan profiting as of 2010, before B1G announced that hockey schools would receive an extra $2 million per year from BTN. An extra $2 million would put Michigan State and Ohio State into profit as well. This link doesn't have Penn State's numbers as they we not yet started. See the second link for Penn State's profits.

http://www.gopherpucklive.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=11205

http://www.statecollege.com/news/lo...it-in-first-year-at-pegula-ice-arena,1462821/
 
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B1Gtymer said:
This shows Minnesota, Wisconsin and Michigan profiting as of 2010, before B1G announced that hockey schools would receive an extra $2 million per year from BTN. An extra $2 million would put Michigan State and Ohio State into profit as well. This link doesn't have Penn State's numbers as they we not yet started. See the second link for Penn State's profits.

http://www.gopherpucklive.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=11205

http://www.statecollege.com/news/lo...it-in-first-year-at-pegula-ice-arena,1462821/
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He said multiple schools making millions before the recent TV money. These numbers are generally cooked beyond belief - but before the TV money there were a few schools in the black and Minnesota was doing pretty well.

Michigan and Ohio State probably make more on a single football game - I'll believe a niche sports impacts CR when it happens.
 
upstater said:
I really don't get Arizona St to the B1G. Travel costs for all involved, especially ASU, are astronomical.

AND, Arizona has absolutely abandoned public education. Where is that money coming from?

There is a certain level of insanity afoot.

But, minor sports tend to have a lot of movement between conferences. The B1G might not even care if ASU comes aboard or leaves.
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I suspect Hockey will be somewhat funded privately like men's wrestling which ASU dropped
 
ASU also had a huge eight figure gift thrown at them to fund hockey.
 
TerryD said:
ND has got its own home hockey TV deal with NBC Sports. Combine that with how good Hockey East is, how well it supports ND's move of other sports to the ACC (East Coast), and the antipathy ND has for anything Big Ten related, and you are correct....ND hockey is not going to the Big Ten.
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Terry someone should clue in ND Hockey HC Jeff Jackson about how HE is the place for them..he was whining like a little bitch last yr about his team having to play in our conference.
 
I don't see how any HE member could whine about playing in the Hockey East. If it is truly that big of a deal, then go to another conference. My guess is that they won't do that because they want their program to play as eastern as possible and in the best conferences for non-football sports.

If we go B1G, I will truly miss the HE schedule already. Don't get me wrong - it wouldn't nor shouldn't be any sort of a barrier or decision. I'll just miss it, that's all. Hopefully we'll continue playing against some HE schools on an annual basis.
 
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Dooley said:
I don't see how any HE member could whine about playing in the Hockey East. If it is truly that big of a deal, then go to another conference. My guess is that they won't do that because they want their program to play as eastern as possible and in the best conferences for non-football sports.

If we go B1G, I will truly miss the HE schedule already. Don't get me wrong - it wouldn't nor shouldn't be any sort of a barrier or decision. I'll just miss it, that's all. Hopefully we'll continue playing against some HE schools on an annual basis.
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This story broke last season Dooley
http://www.bcinterruption.com/bosto...eaving-hockey-east-for-nchc-rumors-heating-up
 
Mr. Conehead said:
Rumor has it that the B1G offered ND to join B1G hockey as a hockey only ember; but, ND spurned the offer and went to Hockey East. No way that door re-opens. The B1G will only allow ND in as a full member and that will only happen if the ACC falls apart (my money is on the XII falling apart first).
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From what I understood, that was not the case; rather, it was the other way around. Before Notre Dame joined Hockey East, they approached the Big Ten about the possibility of joining for hockey only. That was brushed aside and they then asked the Big Ten about the possibility of a similar arrangement that Notre Dame wound up getting with the ACC. The Big Ten told them it was all or nothing.

The Big Ten had no interest in having Notre Dame as an affiliate member in any specific sports, because it felt that would compromise any chance it had of luring Notre Dame as a full member at that point in time. Whether Notre Dame would have picked the ACC instead of the Big Ten for its current arrangement is something we'll never know for sure, but it certainly broached that idea.
 
FDNY99 said:
Terry someone should clue in ND Hockey HC Jeff Jackson about how HE is the place for them..he was whining like a little bitch last yr about his team having to play in our conference.
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Coaches come and go....
 
NYUConn said:
Here in Jersey Rutgers adding hockey has been the rumor for a while. But since the move to the B1G and the subsequent cluster ation of the Athletic Department, I don't know that anyone feasibly thinks this is possible in the near future. Just too many other problems to address first.

It's really not even being talked about.
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It was talked about right before and after Rutgers joined the B1G and Pernetti was open to it, though money was the key issue. Since then, the money issue has gotten worse and Hermann has basically been a train wreck. So, such talk has died.

http://www.nj.com/rutgersfootball/i..._ice_hockey_at_rutgers_alumni_are_on_a_m.html

The wildcard is that everyone is pushing for some sort of replacement or upgrade for the RAC along with several other upgrades, such as a basketball practice facility. Thus, if the RAC is replaced, will such a replacement include a ice rink? Right now, it does not.

http://www.nj.com/rutgersbasketball..._the_future_first_look_at_the_new_basket.html

PS - the original idea in the late 1070's was to build a 13K basketball/hockey arena in downtown New Brunswick for Rutgers. Later, the same arena was proposed for Rutgers Livingston campus; but, money was lows, so only a basketball arena was built - the RAC. A dual purpose replacement forth e RAC was floated in the mid 1990's and early 2000's; but, went nowhere.

http://www.app.com/story/sports/col...utgers-basketball-facilities-crisis/27241339/
 
Without a large donation, Rutgers won't be getting hockey. It's a VERY expensive sport, especially if you don't have an existing facility.
 
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Pudge said:
Two wet blankets out to snuff our dreams.

I don't think the B1G is solely about football. Other conferences are. The B1G is about the Brand where all the members stay climbing in Global rankings. They do need content. But do I see your wisdom? Of course.
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Conspiracy Kitty says:
Bah don't listen to those naysayers. I mean really we've got a rumor to the contrary coming out of a car wash. You can't make that stuff up. Are you telling some guy is going to stop drying my rims just to make up a conference realignment rumor? How likely is that? UConn hasn't played BC since Fredo left the conference, now suddenly we're best buds, playing each other in hockey, and football, but it's not a sign or anything right? Every step Suzie Herbst seems to be aimed at giving us a B1G profile. Do you think that is just coincidence or maybe it's just a bit more likely that she is working off of a laundry list from Delaney?

No my friends, there's something happening here. Now I'll admit that it ain't exactly clear. It's time we stop and look around. Everybody look what's going down.
 
upstater said:
I really don't get Arizona St to the B1G. Travel costs for all involved, especially ASU, are astronomical.

AND, Arizona has absolutely abandoned public education. Where is that money coming from?

There is a certain level of insanity afoot.

But, minor sports tend to have a lot of movement between conferences. The B1G might not even care if ASU comes aboard or leaves.
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Travel costs are going to be astronomical for ASU regardless of what conference they join.
 
TerryD said:
Someone must, since I was answering a post made earlier in the thread.

Did you notice a couple of other such posts there too?
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No one gives a duck*.
 
whaler11 said:
He said multiple schools making millions before the recent TV money. These numbers are generally cooked beyond belief - but before the TV money there were a few schools in the black and Minnesota was doing pretty well.

Michigan and Ohio State probably make more on a single football game - I'll believe a niche sports impacts CR when it happens.
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I don't know who made what - I'm guessing Minnesota and Wisconsin are solidly positive. Michigan should be.

The only one I'm certain about is Penn State - they've announced that their program is over $1M in the black.
 
Fishy said:
The only one I'm certain about is Penn State - they've announced that their program is over $1M in the black.
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Is that because of the massive Pegula gift or generated revenue?
 
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Fishy said:
I don't know who made what - I'm guessing Minnesota and Wisconsin are solidly positive. Michigan should be.

The only one I'm certain about is Penn State - they've announced that their program is over $1M in the black.
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Bingo. I didn't know that about PSU, but not surprising, they've done very well since starting. MN, MI, and WI have all been money-producing programs for years. That's half the league right there. Most of the time they end up spending the money they made on things like facilities, travel costs for the team and recruiting, so the numbers come out even, but there's little reason to not use the money if you have it.
 
Fishy said:
I don't know who made what - I'm guessing Minnesota and Wisconsin are solidly positive. Michigan should be.

The only one I'm certain about is Penn State - they've announced that their program is over $1M in the black.
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I will never believe any program about what numbers they report, either positive or negative. Some programs want to report positive numbers because it shows it's not a waste of resources. Others purposely report negative numbers so they can show these sports aren't making a ton of money. A lot also depends how conference/media revenue is reported. Some schools report prorated payouts from the league to the individual sports themselves, whereas others may not. Penn State might be making money, but they also might not and are just reporting conference revenue more heavily to their hockey program than other schools do.

At Ohio State, an interesting thing is that I know conference revenue is not reported with the individual sports, where some schools do prorate it individually, so their numbers will always look worse when examining a single sport. Interestingly, the debt load on the Jerome Schottenstein Center is paid by the University's general fund and operated by the university, but athletics charges rent from the basketball programs and hockey programs to service the debt. Oddly, though, the money isn't removed from athletics, it's simply removed from the program budgets. Very funny accounting with some of these schools.
 
Easier to get a loan if the school takes on the debt (not just the athletic department).

Not sure why athletics wouldn't pay it back to the school.
 
Well I should clarify that the athletics department does pay debt on the facilities, including the Schottenstein Center, but the way it's been explained is that the individual rents paid by the programs surpass the amount of debt paid on the building. It was a quirky situation.
 
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