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[mauconnfan]

Cole will go where the most money is, that's what Boras does. Cole grew up a Yankee fan, got drafted by them out of high school (but stayed with his UCLA commitment) - if the Yanks offer him the most money, that's where he'll go. If it's the Angels, that's where he'll go, etc...

If there's a chance he needs to dig deep that's one of the key answers right there, to be able to win a WS again. With what they have they'll continue to be a contender only. Need a stud pitcher, a healthier bullpen and a couple .300 hitters with or without power. Sick of these crappy .230 hitters who are overmatched every AB vs the Verlanders and Coles.

 

[Waquoit]

You sound bitter. Is it because your team didn't even make the playoffs? Probably. The best thing for the Yanks is relevancy. The Yanks not only will be very good for the next decade, the Mets are an organizational disaster and the Red Sox seem content in slipping further into oblivion. Advantage, Yankees.

Two rings in the last 5 seasons seems pretty relevant to me. I remember when Yankee fans used to woof about rings. Now they woof about finishing ahead of teams with higher payrolls.

 

[ctchamps]

The count down begins where primarily intelligent analysis becomes overwhelming Sox and Yanks fans talking smack with one another.

This underscores the second most important point of the game. I hope UConn develops at least a modicum of a rivalry when it joins the BE.

 

[Dove]

Nats/'stros will be a great Series.

I just hope the media doesn't focus on the departed Bryce Harper too much.

 

[intlzncster]

Yeah thats the only reason. Typical Sox fan. He nice follow up to the WS championship! Season was over in July!

That's not really the burn you think it is.

 

[HooperScooper]

Cole will go where the most money is, that's what Boras does.

In general that is true. But Boras does listen to his clients. When Jason Varitek told Boras he wanted to stay with the Red Sox he took less than the market to stay there (at least that is what we were told although we don't know if the market was offering more than 4 years and $40 million). When Xander Boegarts wanted to stay with the Red Sox he signed a team friendly deal (6 years and $120 million) a year ahead of free agency.

 

[Dooch]

If there's a chance he needs to dig deep that's one of the key answers right there, to be able to win a WS again. With what they have they'll continue to be a contender only. Need a stud pitcher, a healthier bullpen and a couple .300 hitters with or without power. Sick of these crappy .230 hitters who are overmatched every AB vs the Verlanders and Coles.

Yep, Yanks are obviously a lot closer to a WS than the Angels. Even if they got Cole, they have Cole, Trout, Ohtani and not much else...

 

[soxfan23]

That series was about as close as it gets. Stros are the better team but game 2 decided it, Yankees win that game (had a million chances) and they have a fairly good chance of winning the series.

Yankees and Stros were ICE cold because the pitching was excellent.

Houston's barreled ball rate and BABIP suggest that they were just unlucky, it happens. I expect them to break out against a very good Nats staff.

 

[HooperScooper]

Yeah thats the only reason. Typical Sox fan. He nice follow up to the WS championship! Season was over in July!

Would a Yankees fan trade their last 2 seasons (2 very good years but not winning the World Series) for the Red Sox last 2 seasons (one great season and a World Series and one mediocre season and missing the playoffs)?

It's the same argument I see on here about our Huskies this decade. 2 National Championships and a few crappy seasons is better than more very good seasons and no championships. That seems to be the consensus around here.

 

[soxfan23]

Yeah thats the only reason. Typical Sox fan. He nice follow up to the WS championship! Season was over in July!

Don't get pissy with me because the Sox have won 4x the WS over the past 15 years!

 

[mauconnfan]

That's not really the burn you think it is.

Not any more why would you care about baseball after July August I'm sure the burn is long gone.

 

[superjohn]

It's weird how much Yankees will always be in the Red Sox heads despite the Red Sox winning several World Series now. I care about the Yankees success and have no problem congratulating the Red Sox on their success. The dynamic is similar to the UConn Syracuse dynamic. This thread is about the Yankees, yet Sox fans made it about the Red Sox.

 

[mauconnfan]

Don't get pissy with me because the Sox have won 4x the WS over the past 15 years!

Again baseball didn't start in 2004 pal, maybe for you. But they have had a nice run no doubt. But this year was embarrassing whether you admit it or not.

Pissy, I'll do whatI want if you don't like it please ignore me no worries here.

 

[HooperScooper]

Nats/'stros will be a great Series.

I just hope the media doesn't focus on the departed Bryce Harper too much.

At -235, the Astros are the largest favorites entering the World Series since the 2007 Boston Red Sox were -240 to beat the Colorado Rockies, according to Sportsoddshistory.com.

And we know what happened in 2007. 4 game sweep.

Astros biggest World Series favorites since 2007

Caesars Sportsbook on Sunday opened the Astros as -235 favorites to beat the Nationals in the World Series.

www.espn.com

 

[mauconnfan]

It's weird how much Yankees will always be in the Red Sox heads despite the Red Sox winning several World Series now. I care about the Yankees success and have no problem congratulating the Red Sox on their success. The dynamic is similar to the UConn Syracuse dynamic. This thread is about the Yankees, yet Sox fans made it about the Red Sox.

Always sj, they are like Cuse fans yet don't see it that way. It started around 2004 much like it did for Cuse fans when we were taking the Big East over right under their noses. I congratulated most every Sox fan here last year but the aren't as classy. Some are but the ones like soxfan23 are just annoying as hell.(There's plenty of Yanks fans too) Hey they've had a nice 15 years but they also let you know it even when it's about the Yankees. I mean I wouldn't have even watched much of the Yanks series if I was a Sox fan since my season ended early summer.

 

[polycom]

Hey Aaron Boone,

Quick question? tie game, 2 outs, 1 on, base open why are you pitching to arguable the most clutch post season hitter in the game?

- Pissed off Yankee Fan.

I'll hang up and listen.

 

[intlzncster]

It's weird how much Yankees will always be in the Red Sox heads despite the Red Sox winning several World Series now. I care about the Yankees success and have no problem congratulating the Red Sox on their success. The dynamic is similar to the UConn Syracuse dynamic. This thread is about the Yankees, yet Sox fans made it about the Red Sox.

Eh, then you are unusual. It's historically been one of the most heated rivalries in sports for a reason.

And if you don't think every Syracuse failure isn't celebrated around here, and success met with disgust, you haven't been paying attention. Just go look at recruiting threads for recent examples.

 

[mauconnfan]

At -235, the Astros are the largest favorites entering the World Series since the 2007 Boston Red Sox were -240 to beat the Colorado Rockies, according to Sportsoddshistory.com.

And we know what happened in 2007. 4 game sweep.

Astros biggest World Series favorites since 2007

Caesars Sportsbook on Sunday opened the Astros as -235 favorites to beat the Nationals in the World Series.

www.espn.com

But the Rockies sucked I think the Nats do a nice job matching their 1 & 2 starters think it may be a good series.

 

[superjohn]

Eh, then you are unusual. It's historically been one of the most heated rivalries in sports for a reason.

And if you don't think every Syracuse failure isn't celebrated around here (and success met with disgust), you haven't been paying attention. Just go look at recruiting threads for recent examples.

My point is no matter what The Red Sox or Cuse accomplish they will be focused just as much on the Yankees and UConn as they are on their own successes. It's why there are as many threads on the Cuse board talking about UConn as there are about rheir own basketball team, it's why when Yankees threads pop up here Red Sox fans make the threads about the Red Sox.

 

[JohnFSilver]

This series was never going to be close, NY was built to win for 162, while Houston is about as perfect a playoff roster as you will ever see! The ONLY reason this went to game 6 is because the Astros got ICE cold as a team at the wrong time. That will change in the WS though, and they win the Fall Classic in 5!

Yankees lost two games in a six game series in walk-offs. That is about as close a series as you can get. Teams were about even. Astros better fundamentally and of course have better starting pitching. If Ottavino didn’t suck, wonder where the series would be.

I think Yankees have to get Gerrit Cole. They’ve wanted him for almost a decade and tried to trade for him many times.

 

[intlzncster]

My point is no matter what The Red Sox or Cuse accomplish they will be focused just as much on the Yankees and UConn as they are on their own successes. It's why there are as many threads on the Cuse board talking about UConn as there are about rheir own basketball team, it's why when Yankees threads pop up here Red Sox fans make the threads about the Red Sox.

In a thread started by a Red Sox fan, congratulating the Yanks, that's a myopic way of viewing it.

Heck, mau responds to a Sox fan's generic critique of the Yanks, with an attempted Red Sox pot shot. And then has the "awareness" to say Yanks fans are above it all. Can you not see that?

See @JohnFSilver's response above? That's how it's done.

And we make posts about Cuse all the time when they have failures. It fuels us. Yet, we have had far more success than them. We should never even mention them in theory. But it's fun to poop on them. We are NOT above it. That's what being a fan is all about.

 

[soxfan23]

Yankees lost two games in a six game series in walk-offs. That is about as close a series as you can get. Teams were about even. Astros better fundamentally and of course have better starting pitching. If Ottavino didn’t suck, wonder where the series would be.

I think Yankees have to get Gerrit Cole. They’ve wanted him for almost a decade and tried to trade for him many times.

Do they have the money for him? He is going to get a 200mil plus deal.

 

[soxfan23]

My point is no matter what The Red Sox or Cuse accomplish they will be focused just as much on the Yankees and UConn as they are on their own successes. It's why there are as many threads on the Cuse board talking about UConn as there are about rheir own basketball team, it's why when Yankees threads pop up here Red Sox fans make the threads about the Red Sox.

Stop! You know it goes both ways!

 

[soxfan23]

Hey Aaron Boone,

Quick question? tie game, 2 outs, 1 on, base open why are you pitching to arguable the most clutch post season hitter in the game?

- Pissed off Yankee Fan.

I'll hang up and listen.

Wasn't Springer on 1st? There was no base open and you certainly can't put the winning run in scoring position!

 

[superjohn]

In a thread started by a Red Sox fan, congratulating the Yanks, that's a myopic way of viewing it.

Heck, mau responds to a Sox fan's generic critique of the Yanks, with an attempted Red Sox pot shot. And then has the "awareness" to say Yanks fans are above it all. Can you not see that?

See @JohnFSilver's response above? That's how it's done.

And we make posts about Cuse all the time when they have failures. It fuels us. Yet, we have had far more success than them. We should never even mention them in theory. But it's fun to poop on them. We are NOT above it. That's what being a fan is all about.

Cuse board posts way more about UConn than UConn posts about Cuse, it's not even in the same stratosphere. There are legit times when they have more posts about UConn than Syracuse.

 

[Dove]

Thread direction...PAUSE

Who was the hot chick in Cashman's suite? Did you notice Buck and Smoltz said nothing and FOX never went back there?

RESUME

 

[intlzncster]

Cuse board posts way more about UConn than UConn posts about Cuse, it's not even in the same stratosphere. There are legit times when they have more posts about UConn than Syracuse.

It doesn't matter who does it to a greater extent. Fact is, we still do it all the time. We just don't have one big massive thread on it.

Next big Cuse failure, and I guarantee we'll have mult posts on it. There will def Cuse posts if they don't land Isaiah Jackson.

 

[Waquoit]

I care about the Yankees success and have no problem congratulating the Red Sox on their success.

That's because you're not a real Yankee fan. Yankee fans feelings run deeper than "care".

 

[Ts5034]

As a Yankee fan, theres one thing I will add...Its definitely not the time for Yankees fans to be antagonizing Red Sox fans about the 27 Championships. Ive seen this on Twitter and honestly, that argument is long over. In the last 30+ years, the Yankees have 5, and the Red Sox have 4. Since 2004, when things turned the other way, the Red Sox won 4, and the Yankees 1. The tide really did turn after the collapse in the 2004 ALCS.

The Yankees have not gotten many breaks and had some tough luck since then. You can make the argument the Yankees should have won World Series in the mid 2000’s with the talent they had, but It never worked out. 2009 was a really good team, and you can make the argument how that group could have won more than 1 World Series, but it just seemed like that window of opportunity closed quickly because those guys started to age starting in 2011 and always seemed gassed by the time September/October came around.

 

[superjohn]

It doesn't matter who does it to a greater extent. Fact is, we still do it all the time. We just don't have one big massive thread on it.

Next big Cuse failure, and I guarantee we'll have a thread on it. There will def Cuse posts if they don't land Isaiah Jackson.

It does matter it's done to a greater extent, that's my entire point. The Red Sox making everything about the Yankees reminds me of the Orange making everything about UConn. IMO, it's a function of both fanbases knowing no matter what they will never match the accomplishments of the teams they are so laser focused on. It's all a bit silly to me because those teams are so accomplished in their own rights.