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Yankees need to clean house. Specifically front office & coaches, but some roster changes are due too.
Agree. If George was in charge the entire lot would have been looking for a way home last night. Hal only cares about the bottom line so if they stayed under the cap and they r competitive enough to get fans he’s happy

Since they dropped Yes from Hulu I’ve lost interest. In another year or two I won’t even watch them even in the playoffs.
 
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Eovaldi was awesome tonight.

71 pitches, 54 strikes, 8 Ks, 0 BBs, one run on a Pesky Pole homer.
Great job by him. I wasn't expecting that performance.
 
Agree. If George was in charge the entire lot would have been looking for a way home last night. Hal only cares about the bottom line so if they stayed under the cap and they r competitive enough to get fans he’s happy

Since they dropped Yes from Hulu I’ve lost interest. In another year or two I won’t even watch them even in the playoffs.
This. George expected competitiveness and fire. It’s just not there, and it’s quite evident. Stanton and Rizzo seemed to be the only non-pitchers with some passion. -bomb from Stanton after Nevin’s horrible green light for Judge stood out. Biggest disappointment was Cole. He hasn’t had good stuff for over a month and he looked terrified on the mound last night. I know his philosophy is closer to taskmaster Girardi than buddy-buddy Boone, but Showalter got shafted his first time around with the Yankees. He’s older now, but he is the right guy to right this sinking ship.
 
Cora and Boone showed why having a good manager matters.

Red Sox had the same team as last year, but got their manager back and played with fire all year. Looked like a team that believed all night.

Yankees had the best roster in the A.L. and the team underachieved. Tonight their body language in the dugout was putrid.

To relate this back to UConn, the Red Sox are playing for a Dan Hurley and the Yankees are playing for an Edsall.

Yankees need to clean house. Specifically front office & coaches, but some roster changes are due too.

Red Sox definitely did not have the same team as last year. Not even close. But yes, Cora matters. The really good news for Boston is that Bloom used several bridge players while we wait for kids. Duran should solve the hole in CF next year. Tanner Houck will be in the rotation. Dalbec showed he might stick at 1B, but Casas may be up next season as well. Jeter Downs is a potential solution for the biggest positional hole on the team, 2B, but Yorke may pass him. Need some bullpen help in free agency, and I'd like to bring Renfroe back.
 
This. George expected competitiveness and fire. It’s just not there, and it’s quite evident. Stanton and Rizzo seemed to be the only non-pitchers with some passion. -bomb from Stanton after Nevin’s horrible green light for Judge stood out. Biggest disappointment was Cole. He hasn’t had good stuff for over a month and he looked terrified on the mound last night. I know his philosophy is closer to taskmaster Girardi than buddy-buddy Boone, but Showalter got shafted his first time around with the Yankees. He’s older now, but he is the right guy to right this sinking ship.
Spider-tack less Cole will be a salary cap mess for the next 5 years. I’m hoping the next collective bargaining agreement doesn’t have a cap allowing Hal to spend some $$
 
As a Red Sox fan, there is something so incredibly beeautiful about Sterling's fake home run call in a Red Sox win in game 163. 43 years later it takes a little bit of the sting out of the loss in the Bucky Dent home run game.
 
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This. George expected competitiveness and fire. It’s just not there, and it’s quite evident. Stanton and Rizzo seemed to be the only non-pitchers with some passion. -bomb from Stanton after Nevin’s horrible green light for Judge stood out. Biggest disappointment was Cole. He hasn’t had good stuff for over a month and he looked terrified on the mound last night. I know his philosophy is closer to taskmaster Girardi than buddy-buddy Boone, but Showalter got shafted his first time around with the Yankees. He’s older now, but he is the right guy to right this sinking ship.
I’ve been saying for a while now that Cole going from ‘good’ to ‘God’ in the last few years is a bit suspicious. I think his hamstring was still bothering him but he tried to pitch through it last night. I’m happy to have him bc he’s still an ace, but between his monumental improvement and the way he answered questions earlier in the year, there’s no doubt he benefited from Spider Tack or whatever it is and he was adjusting on the fly all year when he couldn’t use it.

The team is what it is, lots of home runs and even more strikeouts, but I watched at least parts of most games this year and the base running was probably the thing that angered me the most. I don’t know what the final tally was but a couple of months ago, they had run into something like 29 outs on the bases when the league average was half of that. And many weren’t bang/bang plays, it was getting thrown out by 10 yards at 3B on a grounder to the SS. To me, that’s not being aggressive as Boone and Co. kept trying to explain away, it’s bad baserunning and probably cost them a lot of runs. I’m not saying the team needs someone like Billy Martin who’ll ride these guys like Zorro in the dugout, but someone who’ll give them a kick in the tail once in a while might do some of them some good.
 
43 years later it takes a little bit of the sting out of the loss in the Bucky Dent home run game.
The sting was lessened after 2004 and gone for me after 2007. By 2018, the role reversal was complete. Sox have 4 titles while the Yanks are known as the team that can't get it done.
 
Cora and Boone showed why having a good manager matters.

Red Sox had the same team as last year, but got their manager back and played with fire all year. Looked like a team that believed all night.

Yankees had the best roster in the A.L. and the team underachieved. Tonight their body language in the dugout was putrid.

To relate this back to UConn, the Red Sox are playing for a Dan Hurley and the Yankees are playing for an Edsall.

Yankees need to clean house. Specifically front office & coaches, but some roster changes are due too.
Best roster in the AL? Yankees have good pitching but outside of Judge and Stanton the lineup is absolutely putrid. Blue Jays lineup is way better.

I agree Boone should go but the problem is so much deeper. They need a whole overhaul and it needs to start with getting rid of Cashman.
 
As a Red Sox fan, there is something so incredibly beeautiful about Sterling's fake home run call in a Red Sox win in game 163. 43 years later it takes a little bit of the sting out of the loss in the Bucky Dent home run game.

Both of the guys for ESPN were such embarrassing homers, blatantly rooting for the Yankees. I think they were worse than most local broadcast announcers. ARod is honestly not very good at this.
 
Cashman has delivered 1 division title since 2009. Over $2 BILLION in payroll since 2009 and not a single world series appearance to show for it. He is the #1 problem in the organization. Meanwhile the Red Sox fire their GM's every 3 seasons and are able to rebuild from total crap to world series champions in 1 year.

Cashman, Boone, and Thames need to be gone by noon today. Gallo and Sanchez need to be gone as well. Total losers who make losing plays

Call up Dominguez, Wells, and Volpe. Sign Scherzer, Seager/Correa, and a lefty outfielder. That's how you fix this team
 
Yank fans, this is what I want now. Going - Cashman, Boone, Gallo, Odor, Sanchez, Gardner. Not sure if they will be back - LeMahieu, Rizzo. Staying - I'm ok with the rest of the roster but Higgy is still a backup catcher. What the Yanks need - New GM, I'm down for Theo Epstein, new manager, some speed and on base guys at the top of the order, another quality starter, starting catcher. Any thoughts? Btw, did Gallo ever bat cleanup for the Yanks this year?
 
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Yank fans, this is what I want now. Going - Cashman, Boone, Gallo, Odor, Sanchez, Gardner. Not sure if they will be back - LeMahieu, Rizzo. Staying - I'm ok with the rest of the roster but Higgy is still a backup catcher. What the Yanks need - New GM, I'm down for Theo Epstein, new manager, some speed and on base guys at the top of the order, another quality starter, starting catcher. Any thoughts? Btw, did Gallo ever bat cleanup for the Yanks this year?
Bingo.
 
Yank fans, this is what I want now. Going - Cashman, Boone, Gallo, Odor, Sanchez, Gardner. Not sure if they will be back - LeMahieu, Rizzo. Staying - I'm ok with the rest of the roster but Higgy is still a backup catcher. What the Yanks need - New GM, I'm down for Theo Epstein, new manager, some speed and on base guys at the top of the order, another quality starter, starting catcher. Any thoughts? Btw, did Gallo ever bat cleanup for the Yanks this year?
Pretty much right. The only guys that should be locks for next year are Judge, Stanton, DJLM, Cole, Sevy, Chapman (ugh), Holmes, and Loaisaga. Every other position is up for grabs. We should bring back Rizzo but idk if we can afford him. Get rid of Gallo, Sanchez, Odor, Gardner, Voit, Andujar, Frazier. Not sure what you do with Gleyber and Gio. Maybe hope that a new hitting coach can fix them because Thames completely wrecked this team on offense
 
Best roster in the AL? Yankees have good pitching but outside of Judge and Stanton the lineup is absolutely putrid. Blue Jays lineup is way better.

I agree Boone should go but the problem is so much deeper. They need a whole overhaul and it needs to start with getting rid of Cashman.
At the beginning of the year, they were favorites to win the AL and we’re considered to have the best lineup on paper (in the AL). Obviously, that was not the case as the season played out.

DJ, Torres, Voit and Sanchez all drastically underperformed “expectations”. Although any yankee fan could seen that coming from that from the last two on that list. What happened with Gleyber going from 38 HR in 2019 to no power at all needs to be examined and someone on the coaching staff needs to explain that and be held accountable for breaking him.

Ironically enough, the best they looked all year was when they had their AAA lineup of Allen, Wade, Velazquez, Davis, etc. for a few weeks this summer. The speed and athleticism brought some fire to the team, and they were actually fun to watch.

At the end of the day, like the past 5 years, it was terrible roster construction for actually playing the game. In a simulator or on paper it is a lineup that was supposed to win 100+ games easily. Having no lefty bats until August was criminal and Cashman and his front office crew should be fired just for that fact alone.
 
Cashman has delivered 1 division title since 2009. Over $2 BILLION in payroll since 2009 and not a single world series appearance to show for it. He is the #1 problem in the organization. Meanwhile the Red Sox fire their GM's every 3 seasons and are able to rebuild from total crap to world series champions in 1 year.

Cashman, Boone, and Thames need to be gone by noon today. Gallo and Sanchez need to be gone as well. Total losers who make losing plays

Call up Dominguez, Wells, and Volpe. Sign Scherzer, Seager/Correa, and a lefty outfielder. That's how you fix this team
Scherzer will never come to NY. Only team he told the Nats he wouldn’t waive his no trade clause for this year. LA will probably open up their pocketbook to keep him as their payroll hits $300 million, meanwhile Cashman will probably trade Judge for some has been pitcher with 2 tommy John’s on his resume…
 
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At the beginning of the year, they were favorites to win the AL and we’re considered to have the best lineup on paper (in the AL). Obviously, that was not the case as the season played out.

DJ, Torres, Voit and Sanchez all drastically underperformed “expectations”. Although any yankee fan could seen that coming from that from the last two on that list. What happened with Gleyber going from 38 HR in 2019 to no power at all needs to be examined and someone on the coaching staff needs to explain that and be held accountable for breaking him.

Ironically enough, the best they looked all year was when they had their AAA lineup of Allen, Wade, Velazquez, Davis, etc. for a few weeks this summer. The speed and athleticism brought some fire to the team, and they were actually fun to watch.

At the end of the day, like the past 5 years, it was terrible roster construction for actually playing the game. In a simulator or on paper it is a lineup that was supposed to win 100+ games easily. Having no lefty bats until August was criminal and Cashman and his front office crew should be fired just for that fact alone.
Thames ruined Gleyber the same way he broke Gary and everyone else on the team. We're lucky Judge and Stanton are probably smart enough to ignore everything Thames has ever tried to tell them
 
What's Theo up to these days?
I'm pretty sure Theo thinks he is the Commissioner in Waiting. He is an MLB consultant currently. I think the Yanks job might be enough to lure him back. He's 47 plenty of time to win a few tiles with the Yanks and then become commish.
 
Scherzer will never come to NY. Only team he told the Nats he wouldn’t waive his no trade clause for this year. LA will probably open up their pocketbook to keep him as their payroll hits $300 million, meanwhile Cashman will probably trade Judge for some has been pitcher with 2 tommy John’s on his resume…
Scherzer is the best pitcher of his era and my favorite baseball player, don't see him coming to NY to finish out his career though.
 
He's probably done with being a GM/President. Supposedly the only way he comes back is with a partial ownership stake

Word just out today that he turned down the Mets.
 
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Scherzer will never come to NY. Only team he told the Nats he wouldn’t waive his no trade clause for this year. LA will probably open up their pocketbook to keep him as their payroll hits $300 million, meanwhile Cashman will probably trade Judge for some has been pitcher with 2 tommy John’s on his resume…

Maybe take a flyer on Justin Verlander, better injury history then Kluber, and we would get Kate Upton here lol she loves NY anyways.
 
Great job by him. I wasn't expecting that performance.

Some guys shine under the bright lights.

I wasn't expecting it but I wasn't surprised.
 
Word just out today that he turned down the Mets.
That's what I expected to happen, but where are you seeing that report? I thought they hadn't even spoken yet.

I'd love to see him or someone of his caliber in charge of their baseball operations. I gather that there are a small handful of other people they are looking at, too.
 
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