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I went to my first game at XL the other day and that place flat out sucks!
What sucked so bad about it that you had to make this post. I like the XL games, a lot of pregame restaurant options and for those who like to drink you can get a beer during the game. Gampel games are great but getting there and parking is a pain and the pre-post game is non existent.
 
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That won't happen because he state is broke.
When you have over $90 billion in debt it ain't happening
You guys are spoiled. Embrace the suck that is the XL Center.
Badda bing badda boom, there you have it for the most part. Could never understand why people demand a 10th wonder of the world building to watch a basketball game. I go a few times a year and the lights work, the court is the proper dimensions, can clearly hear the PA, men's room clean and the beer is cold.

Not able to figure out why people think I84 is the problem at all. Does it need addressing? Yes but not what killed downtown Hartford. That was decided when the state allowed and wanted revenue from casinos.
Before the casinos every major concert was held in The Civic Center with lessor shows at the Oakdale in Wallingford. Then add in The Meadows just north for outdoor summer shows and you have what we see now. Obviously the Whalers leaving town was also a major hit.

Connecticut rolled the dice and went with the casinos and now they are actually down sizing due to over saturation. This and CT is considering another casino just north of Hartford. Another in the book of things you just can't make up.
 
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Badda bing badda boom, there you have it for the most part. Could never understand why people demand a 10th wonder of the world building to watch a basketball game. I go a few times a year and the lights work, the court is the proper dimensions, can clearly hear the PA, men's room clean and the beer is cold.

Not able to figure out why people think I84 is the problem at all. Does it need addressing? Yes but not what killed downtown Hartford. That was decided when the state allowed and wanted revenue from casinos.
Before the casinos every major concert was held in The Civic Center with lessor shows at the Oakdale in Wallingford. Then add in The Meadows just north for outdoor summer shows and you have what we see now. Obviously the Whalers leaving town was also a major hit.

Connecticut rolled the dice and went with the casinos and now they are actually down sizing due to over saturation. This and CT is considering another casino just north of Hartford. Another in the book of things you just can't make up.
84 absolutely killed Hartford, there's a reason other cities don't run a highway through the city fracturing the city and taking it away from the water which is it's greatest asset. Sure, they've made a million other mistakes but you build out from the river, you don't separate youself from it and fracture neighborhoods.
 

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I have been top the Civic center before it collapsed and many times since.

When the state was doing well, it should have been redone. That time has passed. I don't think it will ever be anything more than it is. A place that is over 40 years old, that will always lose money, sadly.
 
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What sucked so bad about it that you had to make this post. I like the XL games, a lot of pregame restaurant options and for those who like to drink you can get a beer during the game. Gampel games are great but getting there and parking is a pain and the pre-post game is non existent.
The arena blows. Parking is so much more easier at Gampel. You don't have restaurants on campus that are great but at the end of the day it's about the games.
 
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The city needs to connect to the waterfront and the highways need to go underground. They blew a chance to add a casino venue to the convention center which would make the area more competitive with other venues. Adding more upscale housing with mixed use along the riverfront, and subsidized artist space in downtown would have been helpful. Treeing Main Street and recapturing parking space with green space would help. Adding trolley service from and to the ballpark, convention center, xl and bushnell park would help visitors. Establishing a reduced tax housing zone would help. No vision.
 
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Put a roof on the Rent, and add about a 1 mile platform between Hartford and East Hartford... then remove the East.
 
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When I was a kid, the Hartford Civic Center was my only live UConn game experience since it was a while before I want to my first game at Gampel. That was back in the mid 90’s when it was almost impossible to get UConn basketball tickets at Gampel. When I attended my first game at Gampel, I was honestly stunned by how much different/better the experience is at Gampel compared to Hartford.

With that said, I still have great memories of going to games at the XL Center. Even though its old and needs serious work, its not exactly falling apart, and the place still gets loud for it to be a nice home court advantage.
 
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Absolutely criminal that there’s nothing to do along the River in Hartford.
 
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84 absolutely killed Hartford, there's a reason other cities don't run a highway through the city fracturing the city and taking it away from the water which is it's greatest asset. Sure, they've made a million other mistakes but you build out from the river, you don't separate youself from it and fracture neighborhoods.

Sadly this is one of Middletown’s biggest struggles too with Route 9 separating the river from downtown. We have harbor park, the boathouses, and Canoe Club but it could be so much more.
 

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I mean drink beer and look at water
 
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Hartford won't be able to thrive until they bury 84. A raised highway going down the middle of a city suffocates it. We can keep arguing about what we can do about downtown, but until 84 is a tunnel, Hartford won't thrive.
I agree with this and so do the 6 million people of thriving metro Atlanta who feel the impacts of the downtown connector.

Somehow I'm not sure 84 is the reason for Hartford's troubles.
 
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Connecticut has proven to be a classic case of short term thinking and failing to capitalize and invest in growth when times are good. But hey, if taxes and the business climate aren't the problem and burying 84 will bring back the thousands of high paying jobs lost to corporate moves or outsourcing, let's start digging.
 
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Hartford was doomed when the city lines were drawn. Hartford proper is too small and when people started fleeing for the suburbs it was left with blight. People couldn’t relocate to different parts of the city as their needs changed, it wasn’t big enough. They also couldn’t get away from the new interstate in their back yard. Ultimately, this resulted in segregation and the decline of the public school system. Corporate types moved to West Hartford and beyond. Once the Hartford public schools weren’t considered safe and of good quality to many people, it was lights out. It is still a problem. I have a friend that invested quite a bit in Hartford rental property and bought a nice house there. Once he got married he couldn’t see sending his kids to school there and they left


I-84 supposedly marked the beginning of the end and I suspect there is something to it in this case. Imagine what it is like to live in a beautiful city with unique neighborhoods, wealth, business, theater and food, by many accounts, one of America’s truly great cities (dead serious, Hartford was big time). Then imagine having somebody build a highway right through the middle of it. So many people would perceive it as ruined and permanently changed for the worse. It took away the feeling of a tight knit community and made it sterile, loud and fractured.

One thing I notice is that many people long for the way Hartford was in the 80’s and 90’s. It wasn’t good then either. There were different positive things going on, like Whaler games and the Civic Center wasn’t considered old and nasty, but still, the city was dead. There are more restaurants and stores now, with the exception of the mall back then, almost everything was closed or closing. G Fox closing really sucked the last bit of positivity out of the town. Hartford has been going downhill since the 60’s. Efforts to bring it back have been impressive but the inability to get people of all races and education levels to repopulate the city has been a killer. Without a smoother way to say it, you’ve got to make white people comfortable moving there. That’s a tough task. It doesn’t seem to want to happen organically and I’ve always felt some targeted effort would need to happen to start that trend. I’m not sure how you’d do it though.

I had an idea in the late 90’s that I proposed in a Courant letter to offer unique academic programs in Hartford and allow kids from outside the city to enroll. Now days, I’d suggest advanced coding, app building, maybe biomedical engineering. The state could fund it as an investment in the city that would keep talent home and help the region as a whole. My thought was that if a handful of brave suburban kids came in to take advantage of it, maybe more would come and then people would start looking at Hartford as viable living option again.
 
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Obviously the Whalers leaving town was also a major hit.
THE major hit. The Whalers could have been saved. Weicker delivered them to the group that moved them two years later. As a result, he served on the Compuware board for years.
 

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